Re: SBS users - Outllook 2003 vs Office 2002

Oh, I forgot.

My bet is the client won't know he's not using pop3 if you don't configure
it ;-). He'll probably just enjoy how well things work ;-).

RPC/HTTP isn't needed on the lan, it's really useful for remotes, or mobiles
that can be either. But that assumes you like outlook 2k3 ;-/.

It seems you have a client that has bought a new car but he wants it to
rattle just like his old one. Unless he changes, he's never going to get any
where near full value from SBS, and that's a shame.

--
Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]
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SBS Rocks !
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"Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and I'll
understand." - Confucius


"SBS2003 Upgrader" <rogerdav@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:e7R%23fIT0FHA.560@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Yes thanks Les - I myself hate the use of WORD as email editor. When WORD
> changes my spelling of "their words" into "there words" I get really
> annoyed. Client got used to it with Office 2002 and expects to have the
> same
> feature. Client does not have budget to upgrade to full Office 2003 - has
> not got money's worth from Office 2002 yet. Monday I will uninstall
> Outlook
> 2003 and put back his Outloook 2002.
>
>
> I guess by far the worst aspect of the installation experience was that
> Exchange installed along without comment and then it seems it had had the
> POP3 virtual server disabled without warning. Right clicking on the POP3
> Virtual Server and choosing START failed [timed out] without explanation.
> I
> actually looked at the POP3 Service in Services quite early in the piece
> and
> decided that service was only the "POP3 connector" which I am not using
> and it was supposed to be disabled. When there is a NON-GREYED out option
> in the right click in Exchange - and it tries to run - wouldn't it be
> helpful to bring up advice that this service 'named <...>" is disabled
> in
> the Services screen. Wasted hours on trying to find that - finally typing
> the message that Outlook client gets trying to pop email into the Search
> field of MS KB elicted a KB article to the effect that the POP3 service
> may be disabled.
>
> [ PLEASE Nobody bother to POST to tell me that POP3 may be out of date
> and
> we should all use RPC over HTTP. I know that - again I needed the POP3
> virtual server becausethe client wants to continue POP3.]
>
>
> Even yesterday I had to chase down why the Time Service was not working.
> Again I found it disabled in services. Your own note Les, on this issue,
> resides on M&M - but I did choose Direct Broadband connection and still
> the
> time service got disabled - without any warning
>
> I will try running CEICW again one quiet day when nobody is in the office.
> Then restart all the services that get shut
>
> It is almost as if some of this software is written by teams in separate
> locations on opposite sides of the country.
>
>
> Les its OK - I have cancelled my order for a Linux version of SBS. I
> seem
> to have been in this game for long enough to have learnt better but I
> still
> stick with it. Having done the early training for CITRIX on Windows 3.3
> (1996-98 ?) - right in middle of day 2 of the course they annoiunced we
> would NOT after all be getting the NT4 version of CITRIX since MS just
> bought it ! So whenever that was..... way back in the good old days
> before
> dynamic drives.
>
> Cf to the price of Server, Exchange, SQL SBs is a good price. But that
> assumes one needs all those. I have colleagues in TOP class companies
> ripped out Exchange and run Linux mail servers
>
>
> regards
>
>
>
>
>
> "Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]" <les.connor@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote in message news:OdLldR4zFHA.3756@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> I'd be surprised if you didn't find Outlook 2k3 has a capable editor
>> built
>> in ;-). More people used to complain about the loss of 'send to'
>> functionality when you mix older Office apps with Outlook 2k3 .... but
> they
>> soon forgive that when they discover how much better OL2k3 is than any
>> previous versions.
>>
>> In any case, you don't have to use 2k3, you have downgrade rights. But to
>> use them would be a shame.
>>
>> Too bad about the frontpage license - that's not good service. I don't
> know
>> how many folks are affected, as I think a very small percentage of SBS
>> owners ever install it.
>>
>> It should in no way be a show-stopper, though. SBS is a fantastic product
>> offering great value. If your experience has been otherwise .... then
> let's
>> see what's the problem?
>>
>> --
>> Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]
>> -----------------------------------------------------------
>> SBS Rocks !
>> ----------------------
>> "Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and I'll
>> understand." - Confucius
>>
>>
>> "Roger" <rogerdav@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:umbAT%233zFHA.3000@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Lets leave the matter of PST out of this thread. It has nothing to do
>> > with the issue except that if one is forced to take a user back from
>> > OUTLOOK 2003 to OUTLOOK 2002 one needs to convert the PST files -
>> > fortunately NOT all the earlier years archives - they stayed in 2002
>> > format.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > The issue is whether there is any way to configure OUTLOOK 2003 via
>> > registry or any other means to recognise earlier versions of WORD.
>> >
>> > If not it seems to put in question the concept of supplying OUTLOOK
>> > 2003
>> > licences with SBS2003 and per SBS CAL.
>> >
>> > It just adds to my general lack of satisfaction with the whole SBS2003
>> > experience.
>> >
>> > I am still waiting on MS Australia to ring back with a Product Key for
> the
>> > Front Page that is supposed to install using the Front Page CD Product
> Key
>> > supplied with the SBS licence. They promised to ring or email in 24
>> > hours - we are now out to 8 days.
>> >
>> > But now I too digress.
>> >
>> > regards
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <not@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> > news:ePXDeM2zFHA.1264@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> they shouldn't be using PSTs, leave the mail in the mailbox.
>> >>
>> >> No. for word as editor it will only work if word is 2003.
>> >>
>> >> "SBS2003 Upgrader" <rogerdav@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> news:e2SDP01zFHA.1192@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>> The provision of Outlook 2003 licences with each SBS 2003 CAL seemed
>> >>> a
>> >>> good
>> >>> way to standardise everyone's email while those 30% using Office 2000
>> >>> and
>> >>> 40% Office 2002 could not afford to upgrade to office 2003.
>> >>>
>> >>> But it seems incompatible if one wants to use WORD as the email
> editor.
>> >>>
>> >>> Has anyone found a way to set Outlook 2003 to recognise Word 2002 as
> the
>> >>> email editor. The feature is greyed out. If I can not find a
> solution
>> >>> today I need to put back Outlook 2002. Fortunately there is a
>> >>> conversion
>> >>> facility to change 2003 PST files back to 2002 PST files but it is
> still
>> >>> a
>> >>> lot of trouble. I will not upgrade any more Office XP users to the
>> >>> SBS2003
>> >>> Outlook client.
>> >>>
>> >>> Roger
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>


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