Re: Intermittant GPO failure to apply
- From: v-chayan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ("Charles Yang [MSFT]")
- Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 01:30:31 GMT
HI Nick,
Thanks for updates.
After checking this issue, we found many similar issues which is caused the
Gigabit have blocked the GPO applied, this issue will occur occasionally.
Currently, this issue did occur on many Gigabit NICs, this should be the
hardware design issue, as the GPO failure is caused by the network
transport issue. The problem occurs most likely because link status
fluctuates as the network adapter driver initializes and as the network
adapter hardware negotiates a link with the network infrastructure. The
Group Policy application stack executes before the negotiation process is
completed and can fail because of the absence of a valid link.
Currently, we have a workaround on our side, you can run gpupdate /force on
the logon script for every user so that the GPO will be updated no matter
the network is fully ready or not?
Please also check the binding order on the client computer to make sure
that the LAN NIC is list at the first place.
Additional information:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\Current Version\Winlogon
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\System
You can do this by adding a DWORD value of GpNetworkStartTimeoutPolicyValue
with a number of seconds between 30 and 600.
Thanks for your understanding on this issue. For further troubleshooting
this issue might involve capture network transportation on the Network card
which might be complexity to do in this newsgroup. Thanks again for your
effort
Best regards,
Charles Yang (MSFT)
Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
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| Subject: Re: Intermittant GPO failure to apply
| Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 14:31:13 +0100
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| Hi Charles,
|
| Still having problems with this. The network cards on the workstations
are
| Marvel Yukon 88E8001 Gigabit on-board Asus A7V880, the network card on
the
| server is a 3Com Gigabit LOM (3c940) onboard an Asus SK8V. These are all
| conected to a 10/100 switch.
|
| > Resolution 1:
| Have already tried disabling media sensing but that made no difference.
|
| > Resolution 2:
| Updated all workstations about a month ago to use the latest driver from
| Marvel.
|
| > Resolution 3:
| No disabled network devices exist in the binding order.
|
| > Resolution 4:
| Not relevant, not using Cisco switch. Also have tested using a plain hub
| and problem still exists.
|
| Regards,
| Nick
|
|
| ""Charles Yang [MSFT]"" <v-chayan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| news:ZluasyUyFHA.2564@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > HI Nick,
| >
| > Thanks for updates.
| >
| > It seems you use the Gigabit NIC, we have many known issue about Gigabit
| > cards cause the GPO applied failed, we are not sure about the NIC card
you
| > use, but for your convenience, I would like to give you some
suggestions
| > on
| > this issue.
| >
| > Resolution 1:
| >
| > This resolution should be the one you have already taken.
| >
| > 239924 How to disable Media Sensing for TCP/IP in Windows" at
| > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=239924
| >
| > To prevent your network adapter from detecting the link state:
| >
| > 1. Open Registry Editor (Regedt32.exe).
| > 2. Go to the following key in the registry:
| >
| > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters
| >
| > 3. Add the following registry value:
| >
| > Value Name: DisableDHCPMediaSense
| > Data Type: REG_DWORD -Boolean
| > Value Data Range: 0, 1 (False, True) Default: 0 (False)
| >
| >
| > Resolution 2:
| >
| > Contact the vendor of the network card or visit their web site to obtain
| > updated drivers for the Gigabit NIC.
| >
| > Examples of NICs known to exhibit this issue:
| > - Broadcom Gigabit Adapter
| > - Intel Gigabit Ethernet PRO Adapter, Intel Pro/1000
| > - Intel 82544EI-based XT Gigabit Adapter (82540EM chipse)
| > - Compaq/HP NIC dual interface 10/100/1000 doing teaming (HP NC7170)
| > - Dell Inspiron laptops using an on-board Broadcom BCM4401 NIC
| >
| >
| > Resolution 3:
| >
| > A sever may have a Dual Port NIC or multiple NIC's with one port or NIC
| > set
| > to Disabled. The disabled port or NIC should not be at the top of the
| > binding order in the Network Advance Properties.
| >
| > 1. Click Start, point to Settings, and then click "Network and Dial-up
| > Connection".
| > 2. On the Advanced menu, click "Advanced Settings".
| > 3. On the "Adapters and Bindings" tab, in the connections list, select
the
| > NIC that the clients use to connect to the server and move it to the
top
| > of
| > the list.
| >
| >
| > Resolution 4:
| > Disabling spanning tree on the switches (Cisco Catalyst)
| >
| > Note: STP=Spanning Tree Protocol. Turning off STP can cause issues in
| > your
| > network if a loop ever develops. If you are running a Cisco Series
switch
| > or any other switch that runs Spanning Tree, it is best to leave
spanning
| > tree turned on, but enable PORTFAST on all the ports except uplink and
| > fiber trunks. (I.E any ports that aren't connected to a workstation
| > directly should not have it enabled, ports that do go directly to a
| > workstation or computer should have it turned on.) PORTFAST eliminates
| > the
| > 50 second waiting period that STP has, but allows you to keep the
| > functionality of STP.
| >
| > Hope the above information helpful to your issue; please feel free to
post
| > back your results. I am glad to be of assistance.
| >
| >
| >
| > Best regards,
| >
| > Charles Yang (MSFT)
| >
| > Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
| >
| > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
| >
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| > | Charles,
| > |
| > | These 1054s go away and allow a logon to the domain if
| > DisableDHCPMediaSense
| > | is enabled. Does this fact not indicate that the problem is that
| > described
| > | in Q326152? Apart from your suggestion below which I will try
tomorrow
| > when
| > | I am on-site, can you think of any other solution to the Gigabit
| > Ethernet
| > | device problem? I suspect that enableing DisableDHCPMediaSense might
be
| > the
| > | root cause of these GPO problems, problem is I can't see any way of
| > logging
| > | on without it.
| > |
| > | Nick
| > |
| > |
| > | ""Charles Yang [MSFT]"" <v-chayan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
message
| > | news:88TkdaLyFHA.3020@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | > HI Nick,
| > | >
| > | > Thanks for updates.
| > | >
| > | > According to your post, I understand that you get the event 1054 on
| > SBS
| > | > 2003.
| > | >
| > | > These errors are commonly caused by name resolution issues as
| > referenced
| > | > in
| > | > the following KB article:
| > | >
| > | > 298656 Event ID 1054 Is Logged in the Application Event Log
| > | > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=298656
| > | >
| > | > 324174 Event ID 1054 Is Logged in the Application Event Log
| > | > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=324174
| > | >
| > | > To solve the problem, follow the steps below:
| > | >
| > | > 1. Please run "ipconfig /all" on the workstations and check the
| > preferred
| > | > DNS server to make sure that it is the internal NIC of SBS 2003.
| > | > 2. Please also leave the default gateway on the SBS internal NIC
| > blank.
| > | > 3. Check the router to make sure that the ICMP is enabled on the
| > router.
| > | > Test the problem.
| > | > 4. As I know, it might also be the SMB signing issue, you can try to
| > | > change
| > | > it as before to see if the issue can be resolved.
| > | >
| > | > Disabled the following policy on the Default Domain Controllers
| > policy:
| > | >
| > | > Computer Configuration\Windows Settings\Security Settings\Local
| > | > Policies\Security Options\ Microsoft Network Server: Digitally sign
| > | > communications (always)
| > | >
| > | > Hope the above information helpful to your issue. I am glad to be of
| > | > assistance on this issue.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > Best regards,
| > | >
| > | > Charles Yang (MSFT)
| > | >
| > | > Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
| > | >
| > | > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
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| > | > regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the
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| > manner.
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| > | > <eTfXlThsFHA.460@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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| > | > <#NV5wwqxFHA.3556@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > <t3Kkep7xFHA.768@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | Subject: Re: Intermittant GPO failure to apply
| > | > | Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 13:20:14 +0100
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| > | > |
| > | > | Hi Charles,
| > | > |
| > | > | Just checked and Server is free of 1030/1058 errors now that the
SMB
| > | > entries
| > | > | have been reset. That is one problem solved. We do not have ISA
| > | > installed
| > | > | this is SBS standard.
| > | > | We are running Trend Micro CSM for SMB on all machines on this
| > network
| > | > but
| > | > | so are many others, does everyone with Trend Micro have this same
| > GPO
| > | > | failure problem?
| > | > |
| > | > | A couple of other thoughts about possible causes of this problem:
| > | > | Q326152 - DisableDHCPMediaSense has been set to 1 in order to
| > | > prevent
| > | > | eventId: 1054 UserEnv
| > | > | Q840699 - GpNetworkStartTimeoutPolicyValue set to 500, did not
| > help
| > | > but
| > | > | sounds suspiciously relevent
| > | > | Any ideas what to try next?
| > | > |
| > | > | Regards,
| > | > | Nick
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | ""Charles Yang [MSFT]"" <v-chayan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
| > message
| > | > | news:t3Kkep7xFHA.768@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | > | > HI Nick,
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Thanks for updates.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > MSN will not cause that problem, as I know this kinds of problem
| > | > should
| > | > be
| > | > | > caused by the firewall or third party anti-virus software, in
the
| > | > | > meantime,
| > | > | > could you check on your SBS 2003, does the event 1030 and 1058
| > still
| > | > | > occurs
| > | > | > or not. If only the error 1030 occurs you did not need to
anxious
| > | > about
| > | > | > it,
| > | > | > if the problem still occurs on many workstation and impact the
| > network
| > | > | > connection, it should be caused by the firewall is blocked the
| > GPO,
| > if
| > | > ISA
| > | > | > 2004 is applied you need to make sure that IP fragments is not
| > enabled
| > | > on
| > | > | > the ISA server.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Please feel free to post back, I appreciated your
understanding,
| > as
| > | > the
| > | > | > issue is complexity so we might have to trouble shoot for a
little
| > | > long
| > | > | > time.
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Best regards,
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Charles Yang (MSFT)
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
| > | > | >
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| > | > | > regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the
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| > | > | > newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and
timely
| > | > manner.
| > | > | > You can locate the newsgroup here:
| > | > | >
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| > | > | > doing
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| > | > | > For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS
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| > | > Please
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| > | > | >
| > | > | > --------------------
| > | > | > | From: "NickC" <NoSpam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > | References: <#0yb8FPlFHA.1608@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > <qk#JxlllFHA.3472@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > <u$KSRhnlFHA.1412@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > <lF03VAwlFHA.3672@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > <eyM9CI1lFHA.1948@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > <3NgMzq8lFHA.3120@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > <bdNyKYNmFHA.940@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > <OUgO7kOmFHA.1232@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > <LEzjLcVmFHA.944@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > <eInxpswpFHA.2904@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > <frb2Q85pFHA.1208@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > <#SZQAPZqFHA.3540@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > <yK#Vz$dqFHA.3800@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > <#ba#kpyrFHA.260@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > <QGRcwO1rFHA.1208@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > <#jst677rFHA.2592@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > <Kjq00ZbsFHA.3604@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > <eTfXlThsFHA.460@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > <IWea9FosFHA.3604@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > <ISy7Ut0sFHA.1204@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > | Subject: Re: Intermittant GPO failure to apply
| > | > | > | Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 18:18:45 +0100
| > | > | > | Lines: 1277
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| > | > | > | Path:
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| > | > | > | Xref: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl
| > | > microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs:157941
| > | > | > | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Latest observations:
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | We have a new workstation, exactly the same as all the others,
| > which
| > | > | > does
| > | > | > | not seem to suffer from this problem. The only difference
that
| > I
| > | > can
| > | > | > see
| > | > | > is
| > | > | > | that it has not had MSN messenger installed on it! Is there
| > anyway
| > | > that
| > | > | > MSN
| > | > | > | messenger could be causing these GPO problems?
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Nick
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | ""Charles Yang [MSFT]"" <v-chayan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote
in
| > | > message
| > | > | > | news:ISy7Ut0sFHA.1204@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | > | > | > HI Nick,
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > After checking for your event log, we found the error 1030
and
| > | > 1058
| > | > | > did
| > | > | > | > not
| > | > | > | > occur every days, it seems just occur accidentally. It
seems
| > to
| > be
| > | > | > blocked
| > | > | > | > by the anti-virus software, as I know group policy will
| > updates
| > | > the
| > | > | > | > client's policy every hours, some time the package might be
| > | > blocked
| > | > by
| > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > anti-virus software.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > As you refer, I checked the userenv log and event log also
| > your
| > | > group
| > | > | > | > policy. We could not find any relative information relate to
| > this
| > | > | > error,
| > | > | > | > as
| > | > | > | > it did not occur frequently. We may need to monitor it to
see
| > if
| > | > this
| > | > | > | > occur
| > | > | > | > every time, and when it occur does it impact your SBS
network
| > | > | > connections.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > If you still want to know the root cause of this issue, you
| > might
| > | > have
| > | > | > to
| > | > | > | > contact CSS, as newsgroup might not be suitable to deal
with
| > the
| > | > | > | > complexity
| > | > | > | > problem.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Thanks for understanding. I am glad to help you.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Best regards,
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Charles Yang (MSFT)
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
| > | > | > | >
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| > | > | > | > <qk#JxlllFHA.3472@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > | > <u$KSRhnlFHA.1412@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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| > | > | > | > <eTfXlThsFHA.460@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > | > | MIME-Version: 1.0
| > | > | > | > | Content-Type: text/plain
| > | > | > | > | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
| > | > | > | > | From: v-chayan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ("Charles Yang
[MSFT]")
| > | > | > | > | Organization: Microsoft
| > | > | > | > | Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 01:22:42 GMT
| > | > | > | > | Subject: Re: Intermittant GPO failure to apply
| > | > | > | > | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
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| > | > | > | > | Lines: 908
| > | > | > | > | Path: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl
| > | > | > | > | Xref: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl
| > | > | > microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs:150975
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| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | Hi Nick,
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | After checking your group policy, we also need to check
your
| > | > event
| > | > | > log,
| > | > | > | > | could you send me the application log and system event
log
| > in
| > | > event
| > | > | > view
| > | > | > | > | for further research.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | Thanks for understanding, Please send the log files to me.
| > | > | > | > | v-chayan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | Best regards,
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | Charles Yang (MSFT)
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
| > | > | > | > |
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| > | > | > | > |
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you
| > have
| > | > | > issues
| > | > | > | > | regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in
the
| > | > | > | > corresponding
| > | > | > | > | newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient
and
| > | > timely
| > | > | > | > manner.
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| > | > | > | > |
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| > manner.
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| > | > | > | > | --------------------
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| > | > | > | > | | References: <#0yb8FPlFHA.1608@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > | > | <qk#JxlllFHA.3472@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > | > | <u$KSRhnlFHA.1412@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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| > | > | > | > | <QGRcwO1rFHA.1208@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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| > | > | > | > | | Subject: Re: Intermittant GPO failure to apply
| > | > | > | > | | Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 13:25:19 +0100
| > | > | > | > | | Lines: 889
| > | > | > | > | | X-Priority: 3
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| > 194.164.85.19
| > | > | > | > | | Path:
| > | > | > TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl
| > | > | > | > | | Xref: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl
| > | > | > microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs:150828
| > | > | > | > | | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
| > | > | > | > | |
| > | > | > | > | | Charles,
| > | > | > | > | |
| > | > | > | > | | GPO backup files and emailed to you.
| > | > | > | > | |
| > | > | > | > | | With regard to the user profiles, I can't help but think
| > that
| > | > we
| > | > | > are
| > | > | > | > | looking
| > | > | > | > | | in the wrong place for this error. When the GPOs work
| > | > correctly
| > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | machine
| > | > | > | > | | is connected and pingable even before any users have
| > logged
| > on
| > | > so
| > | > | > that
| > | > | > | > | makes
| > | > | > | > | | me think that this is not related to user accounts,
what
| > do
| > | > you
| > | > | > think?
| > | > | > | > | |
| > | > | > | > | | I have created a new user with roaming profile just
like
| > the
| > | > rest
| > | > | > but
| > | > | > | > | even
| > | > | > | > | | that doesn't have an ntuser.pol file anywhere, maybe
| > roaming
| > | > | > profiles
| > | > | > | > | don't
| > | > | > | > | | have this file? Logging on to a failed machine as the
new
| > | > user
| > | > | > still
| > | > | > | > | | doesn't solve the problem, but log onto a spare machine
as
| > any
| > | > | > user
| > | > | > | > and
| > | > | > | > | that
| > | > | > | > | | spare machine is ok. This is looking much more like a
| > | > | > | > machine/network
| > | > | > | > | | problem rather than a user account issue.
| > | > | > | > | |
| > | > | > | > | | Nick
| > | > | > | > | |
| > | > | > | > | |
| > | > | > | > | |
| > | > | > | > | | ""Charles Yang [MSFT]"" <v-chayan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > wrote
| > | > in
| > | > | > | > message
| > | > | > | > | | news:Kjq00ZbsFHA.3604@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | > | > | > | | > Hi Nick,
| > | > | > | > | | >
| > | > | > | > | | > Thanks for updates.
| > | > | > | > | | >
| > | > | > | > | | > From your description, it seems you could not find the
| > files
| > | > in
| > | > | > | > | | > administrator's profiles.
| > | > | > | > | | >
| > | > | > | > | | > As I know this should be created when establishing the
| > | > profiles,
| > | > | > | > could
| > | > | > | > | you
| > | > | > | > | | > test if possible to create a new profiles to see if
this
| > | > issue
| > | > | > still
| > | > | > | > | | > occur,
| > | > | > | > | | > if you want to access other's profiles, you need to
| > grant
| > | > extra
| > | > | > | > | permission
| > | > | > | > | | > for administrator in the folder redirection policy.
| > | > | > | > | | >
| > | > | > | > | | > In order to make the issue more clear, we need to
export
| > all
| > | > the
| > | > | > | > policy
| > | > | > | > | | > and
| > | > | > | > | | > import to my test machine, so that we can help
reproduce
| > the
| > | > | > issue
| > | > | > | > to
| > | > | > | > | see
| > | > | > | > | | > if the we can find some solutions.
| > | > | > | > | | >
| > | > | > | > | | > Backup all the group policy:
| > | > | > | > | | >
| > | > | > | > | | > 1. Right click group policy objects in the server
| > | > management.
| > | > | > | > | | > 2. Choose backup all
| > | > | > | > | | > 3. Send the files to me v-chayan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx( this
| > should
| > | > be a
| > | > | > | > folder
| > | > | > | > | | > and
| > | > | > | > | | > a files, please send it together)
| > | > | > | > | | >
| > | > | > | > | | > We appreciate your understanding.
| > | > | > | > | | >
| > | > | > | > | | >
| > | > | > | > | | >
| > | > | > | > | | > Best regards,
| > | > | > | > | | >
| > | > | > | > | | > Charles Yang (MSFT)
| > | > | > | > | | >
| > | > | > | > | | > Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
| > | > | > | > | | >
| > | > | > | > | | > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
| > | > | > | > | | >
| > | > | > | > | | > ======================================================
| > | > | > | > | | > This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues.
If
| > you
| > | > have
| > | > | > | > issues
| > | > | > | > | | > regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post
in
| > the
| > | > | > | > | corresponding
| > | > | > | > | | > newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an
efficient
| > and
| > | > | > timely
| > | > | > | > | manner.
| > | > | > | > | | > You can locate the newsgroup here:
| > | > | > | > | | >
| > | > | >
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| > | > recommend
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| > | > | > | > check
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| > | > | > | > | are
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| > | > your
| > | > | > | > | newsreader,
| > | > | > | > | | > please "Reply to Group" so that others may learn and
| > benefit
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| > | > | > | > | | > issue.
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| > thread.
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| > | > | > | > we
| > | > | > | > | | > provide other information for your reference, we
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| > | > | > | > | | > doing
| > | > | > | > | | > so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a
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| > | > | > directly.
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support
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| > | > | > | > numbers.
| > | > | > | > | | >
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| > | > | > | > | | > | Subject: Re: Intermittant GPO failure to apply
| > | > | > | > | | > | Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 14:05:08 +0100
| > | > | > | > | | > | Lines: 660
| > | > | > | > | | > | X-Priority: 3
| > | > | > | > | | > | X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
| > | > | > | > | | > | X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express
6.00.3790.1830
| > | > | > | > | | > | X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original
| > | > | > | > | | > | X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE
| > V6.00.3790.1830
| > | > | > | > | | > | Message-ID: <#jst677rFHA.2592@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > | > | | > | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
| > | > | > | > | | > | NNTP-Posting-Host:
| > | > host81-130-111-181.in-addr.btopenworld.com
| > | > | > | > | | > 81.130.111.181
| > | > | > | > | | > | Path:
| > | > | > | >
| > TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl
| > | > | > | > | | > | Xref: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl
| > | > | > | > microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs:150216
| > | > | > | > | | > | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
| > | > | > | > | | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | Thanks Charles, see inline below:
| > | > | > | > | | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > The default setting of these GPO is "not defined"
| > for
| > | > all
| > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > policy
| > | > | > | > | | > | > below:
| > | > | > | > | | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > Network Client digitally sign communications
| > (always)
| > | > | > | > | | > | > Network Client digitally sign communications
(if
| > | > server
| > | > | > | > agrees)
| > | > | > | > | | > | > Network Server digitally sign communications
| > (always)
| > | > | > | > | | > | > Network Server digitally sign communications
(if
| > | > client
| > | > | > | > agrees)
| > | > | > | > | | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | Are you sure that the defaults for _both_ the
'Default
| > | > Domain
| > | > | > | > Policy'
| > | > | > | > | | > and
| > | > | > | > | | > | 'Default Domain Controllers Policy' are not defined,
| > | > before
| > | > I
| > | > | > | > changed
| > | > | > | > | | > them I
| > | > | > | > | | > | noted that a couple of them were set to Enabled,
| > | > unfortunately
| > | > | > I
| > | > | > | > | didn't
| > | > | > | > | | > note
| > | > | > | > | | > | exactly which ones they were.
| > | > | > | > | | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > In addition, have you tried my steps in previous
| > reply,
| > | > I
| > | > | > will
| > | > | > | > also
| > | > | > | > | | > post
| > | > | > | > | | > | > here:
| > | > | > | > | | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > As you referred, you have enabled the roaming
| > profiles
| > | > and
| > | > | > | > folder
| > | > | > | > | | > | > redirection on SBS domain. Also in your userenv
log
| > we
| > | > found
| > | > | > it
| > | > | > | > | still
| > | > | > | > | | > | > refer
| > | > | > | > | | > | > to the same problem in ntuser.pol, by default this
| > files
| > | > | > will
| > | > | > be
| > | > | > | > | | > recreate
| > | > | > | > | | > | > when logon the domain again, it seems the files is
| > | > corrupt
| > | > | > and
| > | > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | | > | > registry
| > | > | > | > | | > | > is not correct.
| > | > | > | > | | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > Please temporally delete that files or rename the
| > files
| > | > to
| > | > | > see
| > | > | > | > if
| > | > | > | > | the
| > | > | > | > | | > | > issue
| > | > | > | > | | > | > can be clear. If you using roaming profiles,
please
| > | > check
| > | > it
| > | > | > on
| > | > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | | > | > server.
| > | > | > | > | | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | Cannot find any NTUser.pol files anywhere; none on
| > | > | > workstations,
| > | > | > | > none
| > | > | > | > | in
| > | > | > | > | | > the
| > | > | > | > | | > | shared Profiles directory on the Server, none in the
| > | > | > redirected
| > | > | > | > | | > MyDocuments
| > | > | > | > | | > | directory on the server!
| > | > | > | > | | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | By the way I noticed that Administrator does not
have
| > | > access
| > | > | > to
| > | > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | | > profiles
| > | > | > | > | | > | directory, each user directory in there is owned by
| > the
| > | > user,
| > | > | > I
| > | > | > | > had
| > | > | > | > to
| > | > | > | > | | > take
| > | > | > | > | | > | ownership as administrator to be able to look in
there
| > for
| > | > | > these
| > | > | > | > | | > ntuser.pol
| > | > | > | > | | > | files.
| > | > | > | > | | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | Nick
| > | > | > | > | | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > More info:
| > | > | > | > | | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > 269378 Differences in the User Profiles in Windows
| > | > | > | > | | > | > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=269378
| > | > | > | > | | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > Hope the above information helpful.
| > | > | > | > | | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > Best regards,
| > | > | > | > | | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > Charles Yang (MSFT)
| > | > | > | > | | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
| > | > | > | > | | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
| > | > | > | > | | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | >
| > ======================================================
| > | > | > | > | | > | > This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical
issues.
| > If
| > | > you
| > | > | > have
| > | > | > | > | | > issues
| > | > | > | > | | > | > regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better
| > post
| > in
| > | > the
| > | > | > | > | | > corresponding
| > | > | > | > | | > | > newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an
| > efficient
| > | > and
| > | > | > | > timely
| > | > | > | > | | > manner.
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| > | > | > | > | | > | >
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| > | > | > | > | | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > When opening a new thread via the web interface,
we
| > | > | > recommend
| > | > | > | > you
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| > | > notifications
| > | > | > when
| > | > | > | > | there
| > | > | > | > | | > are
| > | > | > | > | | > | > any updates in your thread. When responding to
posts
| > via
| > | > | > your
| > | > | > | > | | > newsreader,
| > | > | > | > | | > | > please "Reply to Group" so that others may learn
and
| > | > benefit
| > | > | > | > from
| > | > | > | > | your
| > | > | > | > | | > | > issue.
| > | > | > | > | | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > Microsoft engineers can only focus on one issue
per
| > | > thread.
| > | > | > | > | Although
| > | > | > | > | | > we
| > | > | > | > | | > | > provide other information for your reference, we
| > | > recommend
| > | > | > you
| > | > | > | > post
| > | > | > | > | | > | > different incidents in different threads to keep
the
| > | > thread
| > | > | > | > clean.
| > | > | > | > | In
| > | > | > | > | | > | > doing
| > | > | > | > | | > | > so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a
| > timely
| > | > | > manner.
| > | > | > | > | | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > For urgent issues, you may want to contact
Microsoft
| > CSS
| > | > | > | > directly.
| > | > | > | > | | > Please
| > | > | > | > | | > | > check http://support.microsoft.com for regional
| > support
| > | > | > phone
| > | > | > | > | numbers.
| > | > | > | > | | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > Any input or comments in this thread are highly
| > | > appreciated.
| > | > | > | > | | > | >
| > ======================================================
| > | > | > | > | | > | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
warranties,
| > and
| > | > | > confers
| > | > | > | > no
| > | > | > | > | | > | > rights.
| > | > | > | > | | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | >
| > =====================================================
| > | > | > | > | | > | > When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group"
| > via
| > | > your
| > | > | > | > | newsreader
| > | > | > | > | | > so
| > | > | > | > | | > | > that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
| > | > | > | > | | > | >
| > =====================================================
| > | > | > | > | | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
warranties,
| > and
| > | > | > confers
| > | > | > | > no
| > | > | > | > | | > | > rights.
| > | > | > | > | | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > --------------------
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | From: "NickC" <NoSpam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | References:
| > <#0yb8FPlFHA.1608@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > | > | | > | > <qk#JxlllFHA.3472@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > | > | | >| > <u$KSRhnlFHA.1412@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > | > | | > | > <lF03VAwlFHA.3672@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > | > | | > | > <eyM9CI1lFHA.1948@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > | > | | > | > <3NgMzq8lFHA.3120@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > | > | | > | > <bdNyKYNmFHA.940@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > | > | | > | > <OUgO7kOmFHA.1232@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > | > | | > | > <LEzjLcVmFHA.944@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > | > | | > | > <eInxpswpFHA.2904@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > | > | | > | > <frb2Q85pFHA.1208@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > | > | | > | > <#SZQAPZqFHA.3540@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > | > | | > | > <yK#Vz$dqFHA.3800@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | Subject: Re: Intermittant GPO failure to apply
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 20:21:32 +0100
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | Lines: 465
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | X-Priority: 3
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express
| > 6.00.3790.1830
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original
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| > | > V6.00.3790.1830
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | Message-ID:
<#ba#kpyrFHA.260@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | NNTP-Posting-Host:
| > | > | > host81-130-59-23.in-addr.btopenworld.com
| > | > | > | > | | > 81.130.59.23
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | Path:
| > | > | > | > | | >
| > | > TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | Xref: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl
| > | > | > | > | | > microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs:150019
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
| > | > | > | > | | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | Hi Charles,
| > | > | > | > | | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | As the SMB signing doesn't seem to make any
| > difference
| > | > I
| > | > | > would
| > | > | > | > | like
| > | > | > | > | | > to
| > | > | > | > | | > | > set
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | them back to their defaults. Could you tell me
| > what
| > | > the
| > | > | > | > default
| > | > | > | > | | > | > settings
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | were for the 'Default Domain Policy' and
'Default
| > | > Domain
| > | > | > | > | Controllers
| > | > | > | > | | > | > Policy'
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | GPOs for:
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | Network Client digitally sign communications
| > | > (always)
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | Network Client digitally sign
communications
| > (if
| > | > | > server
| > | > | > | > | agrees)
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | Network Server digitally sign communications
| > | > (always)
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | Network Server digitally sign
communications
| > (if
| > | > | > client
| > | > | > | > | agrees)
| > | > | > | > | | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | Thanks,
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | Nick
| > | > | > | > | | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | ""Charles Yang [MSFT]""
| > | > <v-chayan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > wrote
| > | > | > | > in
| > | > | > | > | | > message
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | news:yK%23Vz$dqFHA.3800@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > Hi Nick,
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > Thanks for updates.
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > I will waiting for your results, as I
mentioned
| > we
| > | > could
| > | > | > not
| > | > | > | > | | > | > troubleshoot
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > the root cause of this problem via newsgroup,
it
| > | > might
| > | > | > be
| > | > | > a
| > | > | > | > | | > complex
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > problem, as I referred many factors might
| > blocked
| > | > the
| > | > | > GPO
| > | > | > | > | updates,
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > firewall
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > anti-virus software or SMB signing.
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > Sorry for inconvenience, and thanks for your
| > | > efforts.
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > Best regards,
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > Charles Yang (MSFT)
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | >
| > | > ======================================================
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical
| > issues.
| > | > If
| > | > | > you
| > | > | > | > have
| > | > | > | > | | > | > issues
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > regarding other Microsoft products, you'd
better
| > | > post
| > | > in
| > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | | > | > corresponding
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an
| > | > efficient
| > | > | > and
| > | > | > | > | timely
| > | > | > | > | | > | > manner.
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > You can locate the newsgroup here:
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > When opening a new thread via the web
interface,
| > we
| > | > | > | > recommend
| > | > | > | > | you
| > | > | > | > | | > | > check
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > "Notify me of replies" box to receive e-mail
| > | > | > notifications
| > | > | > | > when
| > | > | > | > | | > there
| > | > | > | > | | > | > are
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > any updates in your thread. When responding to
| > posts
| > | > via
| > | > | > | > your
| > | > | > | > | | > | > newsreader,
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > please "Reply to Group" so that others may
learn
| > and
| > | > | > benefit
| > | > | > | > | from
| > | > | > | > | | > your
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > issue.
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > Microsoft engineers can only focus on one
issue
| > per
| > | > | > thread.
| > | > | > | > | | > Although
| > | > | > | > | | > | > we
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > provide other information for your reference,
we
| > | > | > recommend
| > | > | > | > you
| > | > | > | > | | > post
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > different incidents in different threads to
keep
| > the
| > | > | > thread
| > | > | > | > | clean.
| > | > | > | > | | > In
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > doing
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > so, it will ensure your issues are resolved
in a
| > | > timely
| > | > | > | > manner.
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > For urgent issues, you may want to contact
| > Microsoft
| > | > CSS
| > | > | > | > | directly.
| > | > | > | > | | > | > Please
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > check http://support.microsoft.com for
regional
| > | > support
| > | > | > | > phone
| > | > | > | > | | > numbers.
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > Any input or comments in this thread are
highly
| > | > | > appreciated.
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | >
| > | > ======================================================
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no
| > warranties,
| > | > and
| > | > | > | > | confers
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| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | Subject: Re: Intermittant GPO failure to
apply
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 17:40:34 +0100
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | Lines: 305
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| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | Message-ID:
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| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | Newsgroups:
| > microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.164.85.19
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | Path:
| > | > | > | > | | > | >
| > | > | > TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | Xref: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl
| > | > | > | > | | > | > microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs:147801
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | X-Tomcat-NG:
| > microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | Hi Charles,
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | Disabling the rename administrator account
GPO
| > and
| > | > | > others
| > | > | > | > | didn't
| > | > | > | > | | > | > seem
| > | > | > | > | | > | > to
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | help so have now re-enabled them.
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | All SMB signing GPO settings are now set to
| > | > disabled
| > | > | > so
| > | > | > | > will
| > | > | > | > | | > wait
| > | > | > | > | | > | > and
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > see
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | what effect that has (must remember to
reboot
| > the
| > | > | > server a
| > | > | > | > few
| > | > | > | > | | > | > times).
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | Workstations do indeed have Trend Micro CSM
| > for
| > | > SMB
| > | > | > | > remotely
| > | > | > | > | | > | > installed
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > and
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | updating from the SBS server. Problem is
| > these
| > | > | > | > workstations
| > | > | > | > | are
| > | > | > | > | | > all
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > live
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > so
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | I cannot safely leave virus checking
disabled.
| > Do
| > | > you
| > | > | > | > have
| > | > | > | > | any
| > | > | > | > | | > more
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | information about this possible Trend Micro
| > | > problem?
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | UPHClean is installed and reports the
| > following
| > | > error
| > | > | > but
| > | > | > | > I
| > | > | > | > | | > can't
| > | > | > | > | | > | > see
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > how
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > to
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | identify which application is actually
causing
| > | > this:
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | The following handles opened in user profile
| > hive
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > <DOMAINNAME>\<username>
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > |
| > (S-1-5-21-3513629081-3873135916-3088626867-1364)
| > | > are
| > | > | > | > | preventing
| > | > | > | > | | > the
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > profile
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | from unloading:
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | svchost.exe (888)
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | HKCU (0x3a0)
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | Regards,
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | Nick
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | Hi,
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | Thanks for updates.
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | From the information you gave to me, we can
| > not
| > | > | > identify
| > | > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | | > root
| > | > | > | > | | > | > cause,
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | have you try my suggestion in my last
reply, I
| > | > would
| > | > | > like
| > | > | > | > to
| > | > | > | > | | > paste
| > | > | > | > | | > | > them
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | again:
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | FYI:
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | What I means about Trend is to disable it
on
| > the
| > | > | > client
| > | > | > | > | computer
| > | > | > | > | | > if
| > | > | > | > | | > | > you
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | have also deploy it on client computer, as I
| > know
| > | > | > there
| > | > | > is
| > | > | > | > | some
| > | > | > | > | | > | > problem
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > on
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | this software if you deploy it on client
| > computer.
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | As this is an intermittent issue, so it
might
| > need
| > | > | > some
| > | > | > | > time
| > | > | > | > | to
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | troubleshoot. in my previous reply, I
suggest
| > you
| > | > | > disable
| > | > | > | > all
| > | > | > | > | | > the
| > | > | > | > | | > | > SMB
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | signing on both client computer and server,
| > please
| > | > | > also
| > | > | > | > make
| > | > | > | > | | > sure
| > | > | > | > | | > | > that
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > you
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | have disable all the SMB signing on the
group
| > | > policy.
| > | > | > You
| > | > | > | > can
| > | > | > | > | | > refer
| > | > | > | > | | > | > to
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | article below to disable it.
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | Please refer to the following link to
disable
| > the
| > | > SMB
| > | > | > | > signing
| > | > | > | > | to
| > | > | > | > | | > see
| > | > | > | > | | > | > if
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | slow network access issue will be resolved:
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > |
| > | > http://www.smallbizserver.net/Default.aspx?tabid=98
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | I appreciate your effort on this issue.
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | Best regards,
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | Charles Yang (MSFT)
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | ""Charles Yang [MSFT]""
| > | > | > <v-chayan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > | > wrote
| > | > | > | > | in
| > | > | > | > | | > | > message
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > |
news:frb2Q85pFHA.1208@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > Hi,
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > Thanks for updates.
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > From the information you gave to me, we
can
| > not
| > | > | > identify
| > | > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | | > root
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > cause,
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > have you try my suggestion in my last
reply,
| > I
| > | > would
| > | > | > | > like
| > | > | > | > to
| > | > | > | > | | > paste
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > them
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > again:
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > FYI:
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > What I means about Trend is to disable it
on
| > the
| > | > | > client
| > | > | > | > | | > computer
| > | > | > | > | | > | > if
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > you
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > have also deploy it on client computer,
as I
| > | > know
| > | > | > there
| > | > | > | > is
| > | > | > | > | | > some
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > problem
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > on
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > this software if you deploy it on client
| > | > computer.
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > As this is an intermittent issue, so it
| > might
| > | > need
| > | > | > some
| > | > | > | > | time
| > | > | > | > | | > to
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > troubleshoot. in my previous reply, I
| > suggest
| > | > you
| > | > | > | > disable
| > | > | > | > | all
| > | > | > | > | | > the
| > | > | > | > | | > | > SMB
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > signing on both client computer and
server,
| > | > please
| > | > | > also
| > | > | > | > make
| > | > | > | > | | > sure
| > | > | > | > | | > | > that
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > you
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > have disable all the SMB signing on the
| > group
| > | > | > policy.
| > | > | > | > You
| > | > | > | > | can
| > | > | > | > | | > | > refer
| > | > | > | > | | > | > to
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > article below to disable it.
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > Please refer to the following link to
| > disable
| > | > the
| > | > | > SMB
| > | > | > | > | signing
| > | > | > | > | | > to
| > | > | > | > | | > | > see
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > if
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > slow network access issue will be
resolved:
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | >
| > | > http://www.smallbizserver.net/Default.aspx?tabid=98
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > I appreciate your effort on this issue.
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > Best regards,
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > Charles Yang (MSFT)
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
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| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > ======================================================
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| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > --------------------
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | From: "NickC" <NoSpam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | References:
| > | > | > <#0yb8FPlFHA.1608@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > <qk#JxlllFHA.3472@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > <u$KSRhnlFHA.1412@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > <lF03VAwlFHA.3672@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > <eyM9CI1lFHA.1948@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > <3NgMzq8lFHA.3120@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > <bdNyKYNmFHA.940@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > <OUgO7kOmFHA.1232@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > <LEzjLcVmFHA.944@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | Subject: Re: Intermittant GPO failure to
| > apply
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 12:17:58 +0100
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | Lines: 120
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| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
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| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | X-Tomcat-NG:
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| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | Hi Charles,
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | UPHClean now installed and logging the
| > | > following
| > | > | > | > errors:
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | Event Type: Information
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | Event Source: UPHClean
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | Event Category: None
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | Event ID: 1501
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | Date: 18/08/2005
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | Time: 16:32:11
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | User: <DOMAINNAME>\<username>
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | Computer: <DOMAINNAME>5
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | Description:
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | The following handles opened in user
| > profile
| > | > hive
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > <DOMAINNAME>\<username>
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > |
| > | > (S-1-5-21-3513629081-3873135916-3088626867-1364)
| > | > | > are
| > | > | > | > | | > preventing
| > | > | > | > | | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > profile
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | from unloading:
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | svchost.exe (888)
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | HKCU (0x3a0)
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | How can I tell what application is
causing
| > | > this?
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | Thanks,
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | Nick
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | ""Charles Yang [MSFT]""
| > | > | > | > <v-chayan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | > | > | > | | > wrote
| > | > | > | > | | > in
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > message
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > |
| > news:LEzjLcVmFHA.944@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > HI NICK,
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > Thanks for quickly updates.
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > After researching the error 1517, I
| > found
| > it
| > | > | > might
| > | > | > | > | relate
| > | > | > | > | | > to
| > | > | > | > | | > | > group
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > policy
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > is not update, you can refer to my
| > | > suggestion
| > | > | > below:
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > Many system and service processes do
| > work
| > on
| > | > | > behalf
| > | > | > | > of
| > | > | > | > | | > users.
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > When
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > work is done the system or service
| > process
| > | > is
| > | > | > | > | responsible
| > | > | > | > | | > for
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > releasing
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > handles it has to the user profile
hive.
| > If
| > | > | > this
| > | > | > is
| > | > | > | > not
| > | > | > | > | | > done
| > | > | > | > | | > | > by
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > service as the user logs off the
profile
| > | > cannot
| > | > | > be
| > | > | > | > | | > unloaded.
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > This problem in code can be caused by
| > | > improper
| > | > | > | > coding
| > | > | > | > | | > either
| > | > | > | > | | > | > in
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > Microsoft
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > software or 3rd party software (e.g.
| > printer
| > | > | > | > drivers,
| > | > | > | > | | > virus
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > scanner
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > service, etc). With the information
| > | > provided
| > | > by
| > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | | > system
| > | > | > | > | | > | > there
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > is
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > no
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > way
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > to find out what software needs to be
| > | > corrected
| > | > | > to
| > | > | > | > allow
| > | > | > | > | | > | > profiles
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > to
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > unload.
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > Why we use UPHCLEAN
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > ====================
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > In the past these issues have been
fixed
| > by
| > | > code
| > | > | > | > | changes
| > | > | > | > | | > to
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > release
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > registry handle. The disadvantage of
| > this
| > | > | > approach
| > | > | > | > is
| > | > | > | > | | > that
| > | > | > | > | | > in
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > many
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > cases
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > multiple issues (different code
paths)
| > are
| > | > | > causing
| > | > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | | > | > profiles
| > | > | > | > | | > | > to
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > not
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > unload. Unless all problem code
paths
| > are
| > | > fixed
| > | > | > | > | profiles
| > | > | > | > | | > do
| > | > | > | > | | > | > not
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > unload.
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > The concept of UPHClean is to deal
with
| > | > these
| > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > same
| > | > | > | > | way
| > | > | > | > | | > the
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > operating
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > system deals with other resource
issues:
| > | > when
| > | > a
| > | > | > task
| > | > | > | > is
| > | > | > | > | | > done
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > resources
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > (memory, handles, etc) are
automatically
| > | > | > reclaimed.
| > | > | > | > | | > UPHClean
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > accomplishesthis simply by monitoring
| > for
| > | > users
| > | > | > to
| > | > | > | > log
| > | > | > | > | off
| > | > | > | > | | > and
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > verifying
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > that unused resources are reclaimed.
If
| > | > they
| > | > | > are
| > | > | > | > not
| > | > | > | > it
| > | > | > | > | | > | > reclaims
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > resource and logsits action. This
| > approach
| > | > is
| > | > | > | > superior
| > | > | > | > | as
| > | > | > | > | | > it
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > works
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > for
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > any
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > known reason that profiles do not
unload
| > and
| > | > | > also
| > | > | > | > will
| > | > | > | > | | > keep
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > working
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > to
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > address new unknown issues.
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > Another advantage to UPHClean is that
no
| > | > | > computer
| > | > | > | > | restart
| > | > | > | > | | > is
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > required
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > to
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > install it or remove it (except on
| > Windows
| > | > NT
| > | > | > 4).
| > | > | > | > You
| > | > | > | > | can
| > | > | > | > | | > | > install
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > and
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > remove UPHClean to find out whether it
| > helps
| > | > | > with
| > | > | > a
| > | > | > | > | | > profile
| > | > | > | > | | > | > unload
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > problem
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > or not. You can do this without
having
| > to
| > | > worry
| > | > | > | > about
| > | > | > | > | | > what
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > hotfix,
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > service
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > pack, feature pack, etc has been
| > installed.
| > | > Set
| > | > | > it
| > | > | > | > and
| > | > | > | > | | > forget
| > | > | > | > | | > | > is
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > goal
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > ofUPHClean.
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > By default UPHClean takes action to
| > allow
| > | > | > profiles
| > | > | > | > to
| > | > | > | > | | > unload.
| > | > | > | > | | > | > You
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > can
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > choose to have UPHClean only report
what
| > | > | > processes
| > | > | > | > it
| > | > | > | > | | > finds
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > preventing
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > profiles from unloading. To do this,
| > | > install
| > | > | > | > UPHClean
| > | > | > | > | and
| > | > | > | > | | > use
| > | > | > | > | | > | > the
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > registry
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > editor to set:
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | >
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\UPHClean\Parameters\REPORT_ONLY
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > to
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > 1
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > 837115 Troubleshooting profile unload
| > issues
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | >
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=837115
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > If possible please perform my steps
| > above
| > | > and
| > | > | > paste
| > | > | > | > any
| > | > | > | > | | > | > progress
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > to
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > newsgroup, thanks for your effort in
| > this
| > | > issue.
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > Best regards,
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > Charles Yang (MSFT)
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
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