Re: CEICW failure

Hello David, thanks for your response.

The port forward thing I had tried just out of desperation. I've removed that!

Everything is setup exactly like you outlined.
The Internal NIC is 192.168.16.2.
The router is 192.168.1.1 subnet 255.255.255.0
The external NIC is 192.168.1.2 subnet 255.255.255.0 gateway 192.168.1.1
with the DNS server as 192.168.16.2

Thanks for your help!
Moose




"David Elders" wrote:

> Hi Moose,
>
> First thing - get rid of that port forwarding to tcp port 80. You're
> exposing the most hacked port out there on your Server. Unless you're
> hosting a website on your server [and its unlikely you'll get a lot of
> people in this NG saying that's a good idea] there is NO reason to forward
> port 80 from the Internet to your Server.
>
> Is this how your logistical set-up now is?:
>
> Internet
> Broadband Router
> External NIC on SBS
> ISA 2004
> Internal NIC on SBS
> LAN Switch
> LAN Clients
>
> If your Broadband Router is not currently connected to the External NIC on
> your SBS - it needs to be.
>
> Can you supply details of how your IP addressing is set-up? Your Router and
> External NIC should be in the same IP range and both of these should be in a
> different range to your Internal NIC...
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> David
>
>
>
> "Moose" <Moose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:36523577-4C36-4A08-8DEC-54CBAFAEDFE5@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Hello Les,
> >
> > Last night I went a got a router - still having problems though. Here is
> > my
> > setup now.
> >
> > Router setup successfully. Router connects to DSL service using evil
> > PPPoe,
> > displays the dynamic IP, dns and everything seems OK. The default
> > setting
> > for the router has Local DHCP Server enabled. There is a Port Forwarding
> > tab
> > so I've forwarded http on port 80 to the Server External NIC.
> >
> > SBS box has the 2 NICs. Both have static addresses and everything is setup
> > just like shown here http://www.smallbizserver.net/Default.aspx?tabid=150
> >
> > I know the server is connected to the router because I can view the setup
> > pages on the router. If I use the CEICW, it still fails during the
> > network
> > configuration. I can use the internet through the router only if I use
> > CEICW
> > and set it up as a PPPoe connection.(CEICW still fails) If I use "local
> > router with IP address" option, CEICW still fails but there is no internet
> > connection.
> >
> > I feel like I'm getting closer but just missing some stupid little detail.
> > Thanks for your help
> > Moose
> >
> >
> > "Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS M" wrote:
> >
> >> When PPPoE first came out, it killed my SBS (4.5) server ;-(. Been using
> >> routers for that purpose/reason ever since. So, I can't really comment on
> >> how current PPPoE 'dialer' software works on SBS. I just know I don't
> >> want
> >> it. I want the stability of of a static network configuration so far as
> >> the
> >> SBS is concerned, and leave all the PPPoE stuff out of the SBS mix, and
> >> on
> >> the router. That makes it a full-time broadband connetion, so far as the
> >> SBS
> >> knows.
> >>
> >> In your case, with your current setup, AFAIK, you should be using the
> >> PPPoE
> >> connection type in CEICW. Two_nics_and_a_router, as you saw on
> >> smallbizserver.net, is the way to go. That much I do know ;-).
> >>
> >> --
> >> Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]
> >> -----------------------------------------------------------
> >> SBS Rocks !
> >> ----------------------
> >> "Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and I'll
> >> understand." - Confucius
> >>
> >>
> >> "Moose" <Moose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> news:B99712CF-F874-4577-877E-467269293035@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Hi Les,
> >> >
> >> > So for the past year I guess we've had this set up all wrong. (with
> >> > SBS2000
> >> > and ISA2000) I never had a router involved. (And now I'm wondering if
> >> > this
> >> > caused other little problems we've had (like the entire network
> >> > dropping
> >> > out
> >> > suddenly))
> >> >
> >> > Would I be right to say that the CEICW process is choking on the PPPoe
> >> > connection acting as a NIC? If I could, I would kick our provider's
> >> > ***
> >> > for
> >> > suggesting this method. I specifically asked for verification of my
> >> > setup
> >> > and
> >> > it was all good from their point of view. I had never read anything
> >> > about
> >> > routers being involved before!
> >> >
> >> > Any suggestions on routers that work for this purpose?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks again for all your help so far!
> >> > Moose
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS M" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi Moose,
> >> >>
> >> >> Right now, your PPPoE connection is acting as a NIC, another network
> >> >> interface with a dynamic configuration.
> >> >>
> >> >> If you follow the layout you saw at smallbizserver.net, you'll move to
> >> >> two
> >> >> statically configured NICs on your SBS, and your gateway router will
> >> >> have
> >> >> the task of keeping the internet connection 'full time'. You can also
> >> >> introduce another small layer of security with the router, by
> >> >> filtering
> >> >> the
> >> >> ports you allow traffic on. This keeps your ISA logs much cleaner.
> >> >>
> >> >> Another side benifit - you may as well get a router with wireless
> >> >> capability; now you have a wireless access point outside your LAN (and
> >> >> ISA)
> >> >> for guest internet access, and/or for troubleshooting purposes.
> >> >>
> >> >> It's a small investment, probably about $100 US, for the features and
> >> >> benefits it brings.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]
> >> >> -----------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> SBS Rocks !
> >> >> ----------------------
> >> >> "Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and
> >> >> I'll
> >> >> understand." - Confucius
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Moose" <Moose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> >> news:23051514-A9B9-4BE0-8690-80D61AE56233@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> > Les, thanks for your reply.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I'm not having a problem keeping the internet connection alive.
> >> >> > Right
> >> >> > now,
> >> >> > I have the internal address set to 192.168.16.2 and the external set
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > 192.168.0.2 so just like your suggestion, I have it statically set.
> >> >> > When I
> >> >> > ran CEICW, I did select the 'full braodband' option. I looked
> >> >> > at
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > site you suggested and I think my layout would be the one on
> >> >> > http://www.smallbizserver.net/Default.aspx?tabid=151 (Two Nics, a
> >> >> > dynamic
> >> >> > IP
> >> >> > address, ISA, router ) What does the router do to make this all
> >> >> > work
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > why
> >> >> > would it make SBS happy?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Moose
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS M" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Moose has two pysical nics in his server, but he's only using 1.
> >> >> >> The
> >> >> >> 'third' one is as a result of he's got a PPPoE connection
> >> >> >> configured
> >> >> >> on
> >> >> >> the server.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> My (strong) suggestion is to get a PPPoE aware router, and install
> >> >> >> it
> >> >> >> between the external nic and the xDSL modem. The PPPoE login
> >> >> >> credentials
> >> >> >> go in the router, and the router keeps the internet connection
> >> >> >> alive.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Both nics on the SBS will be statically configured, and you'll
> >> >> >> select
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> 'full time broadband' connection type.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Have a look at http://www.smallbizserver.net in the networking
> >> >> >> section.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]
> >> >> >> -----------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> >> SBS Rocks !
> >> >> >> ----------------------
> >> >> >> "Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and
> >> >> >> I'll
> >> >> >> understand." - Confucius
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]"
> >> >> >> <crisnospamhanna@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:ujMMcIPyFHA.2312@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> >> What is this Small Business Connection? Is this your connection
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> the internet?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> You also show an External connection...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> So how many nics in the box??
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]
> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------
> >> >> >> Please do not email me directly for assistance. Reply only in
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> Newsgroups for the benefit of everyone
> >> >> >> "Moose" <Moose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:420631FD-C95F-4021-A666-35CCAF1666EE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> >> Hello all,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Everytime I run CEICW, it fails during the Network
> >> >> >> Configuration
> >> >> >> phase. We
> >> >> >> are running SBS2003, ISA2004, 2 NICs. I've reviewed all the
> >> >> >> entries
> >> >> >> here but
> >> >> >> cannot nail down this problem. Included is the IPConfig, an
> >> >> >> error
> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> system log and the icwlog. Thanks for your help!
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Windows IP Configuration
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : server
> >> >> >> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : CompanyName.local
> >> >> >> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
> >> >> >> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
> >> >> >> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
> >> >> >> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : CompanyName.local
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Ethernet adapter External:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> >> >> >> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Macronix MX98715-Based
> >> >> >> Ethernet
> >> >> >> Adapter (Generic)
> >> >> >> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-20-78-B0-0B-A9
> >> >> >> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> >> >> >> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2
> >> >> >> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> >> >> >> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Ethernet adapter Server Local Area Connection:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> >> >> >> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Marvell Yukon 88E8053
> >> >> >> PCI-E
> >> >> >> Gigabit
> >> >> >> Ethernet Controller
> >> >> >> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-D4-28-3C-3D
> >> >> >> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> >> >> >> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
> >> >> >> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> >> >> >> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
> >> >> >> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
> >> >> >> Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.2
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> PPP adapter Small Business Broadband Connection:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> >> >> >> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface
> >> >> >> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00
> >> >> >> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> >> >> >> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 67.71.178.144
> >> >> >> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
.