Re: Migrating NT4 Exchange 5.5 to SBS 2003

HI Gregg,

Thanks for updates.

Just as I referred in my last post, the password is only for PST files, the
password you logon to the OWA can be only set in AD, it is depended on the
accounts you let the mailbox connected to.

For example, when you migrate to SBS 2003, first you will migrate the AD
accounts, after migration you can connect the any of the mailbox to that
accounts, but the password for that accounts can be only set on the AD in
SBS 2003. We can not set it on the wizard, the password is only for the PST
files.

Please also make sure that you have enabled OWA function for that users,
you can check the properties of the user in the exchange feature tab if the
OWA is enabled for that user, please also run CEICW to make sure that OWA
is configured correctly and you can use the new created user on SBS 2003 as
a test to see if you can logon OWA with that user.

Hope the above information help. Please feel free to post back.



Best regards,

Charles Yang (MSFT)

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| From: "Gregg Hill" <bogus@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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| Subject: Re: Migrating NT4 Exchange 5.5 to SBS 2003
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| Charles,
|
| I had already figured out the PST file password item, as noted in my
post.
| What I still do not understand is that when I migrated (not a PST, but
just
| the default migrate setting) the 5.5 mailbox to 2003 and let the
migration
| wizard create the AD account and mailbox, I was unable to log into the
| account or the mailbox via OWA.
|
| When migrating the mailbox from 5.5 to 2003, I had checked the box to use
| the logon name as the password, but the account would not let me in via
OWA.
| I also tried it with the migration wizard set to generate a random
password,
| but I do not know where the password gets stored so I know what it is.
|
| I wonder if the random password choice would work for the straight
migration
| to a mailbox. Where do I find the randomly-generated password (not the
one
| for the PST, just the one for the straight migration)?
|
| Thank you!
|
| Gregg Hill
|
|
|
|
| ""Charles Yang [MSFT]"" <v-chayan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| news:JaL6waaxFHA.3032@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > HI,
| >
| > Thanks for detailed updates.
| >
| > After checking with Exchange group, I found this should be a by design
| > issue, we can use exmerge to resolve this kinds of issue, please refer
to
| > my suggestions below:
| >
| >
| > Based on my research, the Migration Wizard assigns a random password for
| > the PST file. This password is not the same as the individual user's
logon
| > password.
| >
| > The PST password is located in the Pst.password file. This file is
located
| > in the directory where the PST file was created. This feature is by
| > design.
| > The Event Viewer will record the following:
| >
| > Event Type: Information
| > Event Source: MSExchangeMig
| > Event Category: None
| > Event ID: 10076
| >
| > Description:
| > Passwords for new PST files are listed in the file:
| > C:\Exch.001\PST.PASSWORD.
| >
| > If you want to export a mailbox to a PST file which is NOT password
| > protected, you can use the exmerge utility instead. For more
information,
| > please refer to the following knowledge base article:
| >
| > 174197 XADM: Microsoft Exchange Mailbox Merge Program (Exmerge.exe)
| > Information
| > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=174197
| >
| > I appreciate your understanding on this issue. If anything is unclear,
| > please feel free to let me know. I'm looking forward to your reply.
| >
| >
| >
| > Best regards,
| >
| > Charles Yang (MSFT)
| >
| > Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
| >
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| > | Subject: Re: Migrating NT4 Exchange 5.5 to SBS 2003
| > | Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 16:06:22 -0700
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| > |
| > | Well, I figured out the PST problem. Even though there is no choice
to
| > do
| > | so, it creates a random password and stores it in the PST.PASSWORD
file
| > in
| > | the same folder as the PST file.
| > |
| > | When migrating the mailbox from 5.5 to 2003, I had checked the box to
| > use
| > | the logon name as the password, but the account would not let me in
via
| > OWA.
| > | I wonder if the random password choice would work for the straight
| > migration
| > | to a mailbox.
| > |
| > | Any thoughts?
| > |
| > | Gregg Hill
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > | "Gregg Hill" <bogus@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| > | news:%23EZYHfUxFHA.2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | > Charles,
| > | >
| > | > As a test today, I connected the new SBS 2003 server to the same
| > network
| > | > as the current NT4 PDC that has Exchange 5.5 on it. I tried the
| > Exchange
| > | > Migration Wizard on the SBS 2003 server and it created a user
account
| > and
| > | > mailbox on the SBS 2003 server, but the user cannot log into the
| > mailbox,
| > | > at least not with OWA. I have enabled the user account and changed
the
| > | > password to match that of the NT4 PDC, with the same result.
| > | >
| > | > I also used the Migration Wizard to export a mailbox to a PST file
as
| > a
| > | > test. In SBS Server Management, I first created a user and email
| > account
| > | > with the same name as on the current NT4 PDC, then I exported the
5.5
| > | > mailbox of my test user. The export worked as far as creating the
PST
| > | > file, but when I tried to open the PST file in Outlook 2003 to
import
| > the
| > | > contents into the SBS user's account, it failed because the PST is
| > | > password protected. No password works to allow access. I tried the
| > | > password of the user on the NT4 PDC, the password of the user on the
| > SBS
| > | > 2003 server, the admin password of the NT4 PDC and the admin
password
| > of
| > | > the SBS 2003 server. I changed the passwords of the user on both
boxes
| > to
| > | > match each other, then tried again. Nothing works: the password will
| > not
| > | > be accepted and I cannot open the file.
| > | >
| > | > Any ideas?
| > | >
| > | > Gregg Hill
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > ""Charles Yang [MSFT]"" <v-chayan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
| > message
| > | > news:650L55LxFHA.780@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | >>
| > | >> HI Gregg,
| > | >>
| > | >> Welcome to SBS newsgroup.
| > | >>
| > | >> Issue description:
| > | >> ===============
| > | >>
| > | >> I understand that you want to migrate from NT4 to SBS 2003, you
want
| > to
| > | >> know how to migrate it.
| > | >>
| > | >> Analyzing and suggestions:
| > | >> =================
| > | >>
| > | >> Generally speaking, we do have a detailed white paper told you how
to
| > | >> migrate the NT4 to SBS 2003, it should suitable for your situation,
| > you
| > | >> can
| > | >> refer to this to do your migration task, for your convenience, I
| > would
| > | >> like
| > | >> to give you the link below:
| > | >>
| > | >> Migrate from SBS 4.5 and NT4 to SBS 2003:
| > | >>
| > | >>
| >
http://download.microsoft.com/download/6/f/a/6fa5ebc5-5a0f-4990-8833-ed24f4d
| > | >> a4289/SBS_MigratingSBS45.doc
| > | >>
| > | >> In the white paper, it describes the detailed steps about migrating
| > the
| > | >> AD
| > | >> account also with Exchange data.
| > | >>
| > | >> For migration the PST files, it is your best interest to exmerge,
to
| > do
| > | >> it,
| > | >> you can also use Migration wizard on SBS 2003 Exchange to do the
| > mailbox
| > | >> migration, it should be a good way also.
| > | >>
| > | >> I appreciate your understanding on this issue, please feel free to
| > post
| > | >> back if you have any further concerns. I will be here waiting for
| > your
| > | >> updates.
| > | >>
| > | >>
| > | >> Best regards,
| > | >>
| > | >> Charles Yang (MSFT)
| > | >>
| > | >> Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
| > | >>
| > | >> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
| > | >>
| > | >> ======================================================
| > | >> This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have
| > issues
| > | >> regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the
| > | >> corresponding
| > | >> newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and timely
| > | >> manner.
| > | >> You can locate the newsgroup here:
| > | >> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx
| > | >>
| > | >> When opening a new thread via the web interface, we recommend you
| > check
| > | >> the
| > | >> "Notify me of replies" box to receive e-mail notifications when
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| > are
| > | >> any updates in your thread. When responding to posts via your
| > newsreader,
| > | >> please "Reply to Group" so that others may learn and benefit from
| > your
| > | >> issue.
| > | >>
| > | >> Microsoft engineers can only focus on one issue per thread.
Although
| > we
| > | >> provide other information for your reference, we recommend you post
| > | >> different incidents in different threads to keep the thread clean.
In
| > | >> doing
| > | >> so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.
| > | >>
| > | >> For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS directly.
| > Please
| > | >> check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone
| > numbers.
| > | >>
| > | >> Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
| > | >> ======================================================
| > | >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
| > | >> rights.
| > | >>
| > | >>
| > | >> =====================================================
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| > | >> that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
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| > | >>
| > | >> --------------------
| > | >> | Reply-To: "Gregg Hill" <bogus@xxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | >> | From: "Gregg Hill" <bogus@xxxxxxxxxxx>
| > | >> | Subject: Migrating NT4 Exchange 5.5 to SBS 2003
| > | >> | Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:16:31 -0700
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| > | >> |
| > | >> | Hello!
| > | >> |
| > | >> | I know about the swing method, but that was not used here
because
| > the
| > | >> client
| > | >> | wanted a new domain name and because the old NT4 PDC will be
| > demoted
| > to
| > | >> a
| > | >> | member server with UPromote in order to support ancient programs
| > they
| > | >> need
| > | >> | to keep running.
| > | >> |
| > | >> | That having been said, I have built a new SBS 2003 SP1 server. I
| > have
| > | >> not
| > | >> | created the user accounts yet, nor have I pulled any Exchange
data
| > from
| > | >> the
| > | >> | old server.
| > | >> |
| > | >> | I was reading the
| > | >> | http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;327928
| > | >> comparison
| > | >> of
| > | >> | migration methods and found something that I do not understand.
| > Under
| > | >> method
| > | >> | 5, using the Migration Wizard, it states that "...new, turned-off
| > user
| > | >> | accounts are created in the target directory. If you decide to
turn
| > on
| > | >> these
| > | >> | accounts, you must first use the Active Directory Migration Tool
| > (ADMT)
| > | >> to
| > | >> | migrate the accounts with security identifiers (SIDs)."
| > | >> |
| > | >> | The NT4 PDC is in its own domain named Workgroup. The new SBS
2003
| > is
| > | >> in
| > | >> its
| > | >> | own domain named Dimension. I kept the IP subnet the same on the
| > new
| > | >> one
| > | >> as
| > | >> | on the old domain so the servers could chat if needed, which
leads
| > me
| > | >> to
| > | >> the
| > | >> | next questions.
| > | >> |
| > | >> | 1) Can I use the ADMT with SBS 2003 to pull domain accounts from
| > the
| > | >> old
| > | >> NT4
| > | >> | PDC Exchange 5.5 server?
| > | >> | 2) Do I have to turn on the "new, turned-off user accounts" that
| > are
| > | >> | "created in the target directory" in order to use the migrated
| > | >> mailboxes,
| > | >> or
| > | >> | can I somehow attach the mailboxes to new accounts that I create
on
| > the
| > | >> SBS
| > | >> | 2003 server?
| > | >> | 3) If I use the Migration Wizard to dump to PST files, is it any
| > more
| > | >> or
| > | >> | less difficult and/or time consuming than using Exmerge?
| > | >> |
| > | >> | Thank you for your time!
| > | >> |
| > | >> | Gregg Hill
| > | >> |
| > | >> |
| > | >> |
| > | >> |
| > | >> |
| > | >>
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| > |
| >
|
|
|

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