RE: NDR 5.3.0 Generated. Exchange mistakenly sent to the wrong MTA



Hi Lars,

Thanks for the kind update. Please feel free to take your time. If you have
any updates or need any further assistance on this issue, please feel free
to let me know. I am glad to be of assistance. :-)

Best regards,

Nathan Liu (MSFT)
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>Thread-Topic: NDR 5.3.0 Generated. Exchange mistakenly sent to the wrong
MTA
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>Subject: RE: NDR 5.3.0 Generated. Exchange mistakenly sent to the wrong MTA
>Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 03:25:08 -0700
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>Thanks, Nathan.
>
>I will need a few days to complete the points below, especially since this
>error is periodic. I will get back to you as soon as possible.
>
>
>Regards,
>Lars
>
>""Nathan Liu [MSFT]"" wrote:
>
>> Hi Lars,
>>
>> Thank you for your update.
>>
>> 1. Based on my research, this issue may be related to the DNS
resolution
>> of your Exchange Server. To narrow down this issue, please switch to
>> forward internet email to your ISP Smarthost to try again. This method
will
>> determine if there have DNS issue.
>>
>> To switch between using DNS and Smart Host, you can do the following
steps:
>>
>> a. Open Exchange System Manager and expand the "Connectors" node.
>>
>> b. Right click "SmallBusiness SMTP connector" and choose Properties.
>>
>> c. On the General page, you can choose to use DNS or Forward to smart
host
>> to send emails. If your customer is now using DNS to send emails, you
can
>> choose to forward emails to the ISP's email server (smart host) and then
>> type the FQDN of the ISP's email server. If your ISP provides you the IP
>> address of their email server, for example, 12.34.56.78, you should type
>> the IP address as "[12.34.56.78]" (without the quotation marks) on the
>> connector's properties page.
>>
>> d. Expand to Servers\ServerName\Protocols\SMTP and restart the Default
SMTP
>> Virtual Server. Then check if the issue disappears.
>>
>> 2. When the issue happens again, in the Exchange Server, please telnet
>> the destination mail server (online.no Sendmail 8.12.11) which you
cannot
>> send mail to by the following steps.
>>
>> a. Click Start, click Run, type telnet, and then click OK.
>>
>> b. At the Microsoft Telnet command prompt, type open server_name 25, and
>> then press ENTER.
>>
>> c. To verify that you are successfully connected to the SMTP Mail
Service,
>> type helo domain.com, and then press ENTER.
>>
>> d. Type mail from: , and then press ENTER.
>>
>> e. Type rcpt to: , and then press ENTER.
>>
>> f. Type "quit" (without the quotation marks), and then press ENTER two
>> times to close the connection to the server and leave the Telnet session
>> running.
>>
>> For more information about these 6 steps, please refer to the following
>> article.
>>
>> XFOR: Telnet to Port 25 of IMC to Test IMC Communication:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=153119
>>
>> Please let me know the result and capture a screen shot if there is any
>> error during this process and attach it in your reply.
>>
>> 3. Let a client send an outbound email to online.no, please check in
which
>> queue the emails stays (you may not see it if it is delivered). To check
>> this:
>>
>> 1). Start Exchange System Manager.
>>
>> 2). Use the following path to locate the queues you want to check:
>>
>> Servers\<ServerName>\Protocols\SMTP virtual Server\<SMTP virtual
>> server>\Queues\<Queue>
>>
>> 4. Enable message tracking, let a user send an outbound email and then
>> check the email message under Tools->Message Tracking Center (you can
make
>> a screen capture of the tracking result and attach the picture in your
>> reply). Regarding how to enable Message Tracking, please refer to the
>> following MS KB article:
>>
>> 246856 XADM: How to Enable Message Tracking in Exchange 2000 Server
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=246856
>>
>> 5. Enable Diagnostic Logging to determine the root of the transport
issue.
>> To enable Diagnostic Logging on the MSExchangeTransport service:
>>
>> 1). Start Exchange System Manager.
>>
>> 2). Navigate to the server object.
>>
>> 3). Right-click <Server object>, and then click Properties.
>>
>> 4). Click the Diagnostic Logging tab.
>>
>> 5). Under Categories, click MSExchangeTransport.
>>
>> 6). Under Logging Level, choose maximum for all the items. Restart the
>> server.
>>
>> 7). Let a user send an outbound message and copy all Exchange relative
>> events in Event Viewer.
>>
>> For more information regarding how to troubleshoot Exchange problems,
>> please refer to the following article:
>>
>> General troubleshooting for transport issues in Exchange 2000 Server and
in
>> Exchange Server 2003
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=257265
>>
>> 6. Enable SMTP logging and gather SMTP log to troubleshoot the issue:
>>
>> A. Open Exchange System Manager, expand Servers -> <Server name> ->
>> Protocols -> SMTP, right-click "Default SMTP Virtual Server" and click
>> Properties.
>>
>> B. Under the General tab, check the option "Enable Logging".
>>
>> C. With "W3C Extended Log File Format", click "Properties".
>>
>> D. Under "General Properties", make sure "Use local time for file naming
>> and rollover" is CHECKED.
>>
>> E. Switch to the "Extended Properties", and then select to enable All
the
>> logging Options.
>>
>> F. Click OK to apply the modification.
>>
>> G. Right-click Default SMTP Virtual Server and click Stop.
>>
>> H. Right-click Default SMTP Virtual Server and click Start to restart
the
>> SMTP server.
>>
>> I. Reproduce the issue, repeat step G to stop Default SMTP Virtual
Server,
>> copy out or zip the SMTP log files in the
>> "%systemroot%\system32\logfiles\SmtpSvc1" folder, and then restart the
>> "Default SMTP Virtual Server".
>>
>> I appreciate your time and cooperation. If anything is unclear, please
feel
>> free to let me know. I am looking forward to hearing from you.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Nathan Liu (MSFT)
>> Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
>>
>> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
>> ======================================================
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Please
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>>
>> Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
>> ======================================================
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>>
>>
>>
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>> >Thread-Topic: NDR 5.3.0 Generated. Exchange mistakenly sent to the
wrong
>> MTA
>> >thread-index: AcXCcCkESlTx6Gv5TZuGyWkhIotgkg==
>> >X-WBNR-Posting-Host: 195.70.176.134
>> >From: "=?Utf-8?B?TGFycw==?=" <Lars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >References: <E81389BD-0C6D-4B67-86C3-6292FFB0D3A4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> <auMdiSBwFHA.2960@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> <699A69C8-E438-4A2F-80A0-7DFEBDB9E1C8@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> <NVV2GwjwFHA.780@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >Subject: RE: NDR 5.3.0 Generated. Exchange mistakenly sent to the wrong
MTA
>> >Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 00:59:03 -0700
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>> >
>> >Hi, Nathan.
>> >
>> >No problem with the delayed response. Week-ends are totally axeptable!
:)
>> >
>> >1. My Exchange server version is 6.5 (Build 7226.6 Service Pack 1). The
>> host
>> >on
>> >online.no is Sendmail 8.12.11/8.12.11 (although this is the MX-host
that
>> >Exchange
>> >apparently is not sending the mail to). (Seems the host that _is_
>> receiving
>> >the mail
>> >also runs this version of Sendmail.)
>> >
>> >2. The MTA Service is running (MTA Stacks, that is).
>> >
>> >3.1 No custom sinks or applications are installed.
>> >
>> >3.2 The MTA Service has not (never) been disabled.
>> >
>> >3.3 The receiving SMTP server responds with a "We do not relay"-error.
>> >The technicians at online.no says this is because we actually try to
send
>> >the mail to the wrong server.
>> >
>> >3.4 The error is logged even without maximum logging enabled (it is
logged
>> >under normal logging level). Only the NDR is logged at normal level, I
had
>> to
>> >turn on maximum logging to get the actual "We do not relay..." response
>> from
>> >the receiving mail host.
>> >
>> >
>> >Again, I appreciate your time, Nathan. Is there a way to enable logging
of
>> the
>> >actual DNS-lookup process that Exchange performs, which also shows how
it
>> >selects the MX host based on the DNS response?
>> >
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >Lars
>> >
>> >""Nathan Liu [MSFT]"" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi Lars,
>> >>
>> >> Thank you for your kind update.
>> >>
>> >> I am sorry for the delayed response due to the weekend. Please
>> understand
>> >> that the newsgroups are staffed weekdays by Microsoft Support
>> professionals
>> >> to answer your systems and applications questions. Your understanding
is
>> >> greatly appreciated!
>> >>
>> >> To narrow down this issue, please answer and perform the following
>> >> questions and steps:
>> >>
>> >> 1. As you mentioned, this issue only occurs when the Exchange
Server
>> >> tries to send outbound messages to recipients in the domain
online.no.
>> What
>> >> version of the Exchange Server? What of email Server is running in
the
>> >> domain online.no?
>> >>
>> >> 2. For the Event Error 3015, it may indicate that you have disabled
>> the
>> >> MTA Service on your Exchange 2003 Server. If this is true, please
enable
>> >> and start MTA Service and it may help you fix the problem.
>> >>
>> >> 3. The 5.3.0 NDR essentially means that the transport attempted to
>> >> deliver a message to the MTA and failed. This event can happen for a
few
>> >> reasons:
>> >>
>> >> 1) If a message bypassed the Exchange categorizer due to postCAT
custom
>> >> sinks or applications Routing can send a valid SMTP mail for an SMTP
>> >> recipient to the MTA erroneously.
>> >>
>> >> 2) If the MTA stack service has been disabled and stopped for an
>> extended
>> >> period of time, then re-enabled and started, the SMTP storeDriver may
>> still
>> >> think the MTA is not started and NDR the messages bound for valid MTA
>> >> recipients.
>> >>
>> >> 3) If a message is sent to a user on a foreign system like UNIX
sendmail
>> or
>> >> other implementations that respond with a 5.3.0 at the SMTP protocol
>> level,
>> >> then Exchange will log this response and wrap it into its NDR event.
>> This
>> >> usually has nothing to do with delivering to the MTA even though the
>> event
>> >> logs may indicate that.
>> >>
>> >> 4. General speaking, the event errors mentioned in your post
indicate
>> >> that there are some non-delivery reports (NDRs) generated on your
>> Exchange
>> >> Server because some e-mails are not sent successfully. Usually, this
is
>> >> normal for a production Exchange Server that is sending/receiving a
>> large
>> >> number of e-mails every day to generate some NDRs and the
corresponding
>> >> event errors as you have found. So if you were not aware any
>> outstanding
>> >> problems in sending/receiving e-mails on your Exchange Server, you
can
>> >> safely ignore these NDRs and event errors. Also, generally these
event
>> >> errors will not be logged unless you have turned on the diagnostics
>> logging
>

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