Re: Web Certificate for IIS Server on SBS Domain
- From: "Bryan L" <blinton.nospam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 11:39:17 -0500
Eriq,
Thanks for a great, comprehensive reply.
You guessed correctly on everything:
The public name of the IIS server is diferent than that used for RWW, OWA,
etc (in fact, I'm just using https://{SBSPublicIPViaNAT} for the SBS tools,
haven't even set up a name, although I may change that at some point when I
feel up to reinstalling the cert on all PocketPCs and helping home users to
do the same.)
The IIS server has a dedicated DNS name/Public IP.
It has only one LAN interface, and my firewall is configured with 1:1 NAT
for it. I just purchased the new static IP for it yesterday, in fact.
I'm all for purchasing a 3rd party cert if it doesn't cost an arm and a leg.
I'm sure there are plenty of cert authorities out there that are much more
competitive than verisign, and I don't need a recognized cert authority; my
intent is simply to secure users' sessions with the server, not provide
3rd-party verification of identity, since only my users will be on the site.
But I've had a hard time finding (via google) a decent guide to inexpensive
cert authorities. I'm finding companies, but how do I know who's
reliable/reputable?
If I tried to install Cert Services in my SBS domain, what sort of problems
could I expect, and is there a way to avoid them?
Thanks again for the great info Eriq.
Bryan
"Eriq Neale" <eon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:2005091309302016807%eon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> On 2005-09-12 17:03:06 -0500, "Bryan L"
> <blinton.nospam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> said:
>
>> I have configured a certificate on my SBS for use with RWW, OWA, OMA, and
>> RPC over HTTP. I've never had any trouble with it.
>>
>> I'm now setting up a web application on a new IIS server on my domain and
>> I want to secure all connections with a self-issued certificate, since I
>> want to give my users access to it across the internet. Since the
>> certificate and DNS names need to match, I presume I need to set up
>> another cert specifically for use by that server. I've set up 1:1 NAT
>> and a public DNS record for the server. I just have a few questions:
>>
>> I've never installed Certificate Services on the SBS because I haven't
>> needed to. Will that be necessary in order for the IIS server to request
>> a certificate of the SBS server?
>>
>> Will installing Certificate Services mess up my existing configuration in
>> any way?
>>
>> Do I need to install Certificate Services on the SBS, or can it be
>> installed on the IIS server? Would I get the same results either way,
>> and is there a best practice?
>>
>> Just looking to clearly understand my options, and the logical process of
>> what I need to do.
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>>
>> Bryan
>
> Hey Brian - a couple of other questions for you:
>
> 1. Is the Public Name of the new IIS server the same or different from the
> name used to access RWW, OWA, etc?
> 2. If they are different (which seems to be the case in your message, but
> it's not exactly clear, hence question #!) are they both pointing to the
> same public IP address?
> 3. Is this new IIS server only on the internal network, or does it have a
> separate interface that connects to the public internet as well?
>
> To be perfectly honest, I would recommend that you avoid the use of
> Certificate Services on your internal network and if the second IIS server
> is as truly separate as it seems like it might be, go ahead and purchase a
> third-party certificate for that server and keep it independent of the
> self-signed certificate for the SBS server. Can you install and use
> Certificate Services to do what you are wanting? Absolutely. Is it going
> to cost more in time and headache than purchasing a third-party cert for
> your second website? Absolutely times 10. You have to realize that once
> you pur Certificate Services in an SBS environment, you don't want to pull
> it out, and it can in some cases interfere with traditional SBS
> certificate functions.
>
> Case in point - about two months ago, I set up a purchased certificate for
> a client. The total cost to the client was about one hour of my standard
> consulting rate. Only half of that cost went toward the purchase of the
> certiicate, and the other half represented the half hour of my time that
> it took me to set it up. If you're only trying to set up a single
> certificate for a single site, I cannot see the time value of setting up
> Certificate Services for that single server.
>
> If you were talking about putting together certs for multiple servers
> and/or multiple users, then you might look into it, but in this scenario,
> I think it would be more trouble than it's worth...
>
>
> HTH...
>
> -Eriq
> --
> Eriq Neale - Small Business Specialist, MCSE, Mac Guru
> EON Consulting - www.eonconsulting.net
> Author of Microsoft Small Business Server 2003 Unleashed
> Need additional IT insight? E-mail "support at eonconsulting dot net"
>
.
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