Re: WINS 4204 Every 40 Minutes

OK, I just made the changes. The server will not be rebooted for a couple
of weeks so if it needs to reboot, I'll have no updates until then.

Do I even need WINS in the environment I described below? Please let me
know..

Thanks!

"Steven Wang [MSFT]" <v-stwang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> I do understand your concern, and it is really frustrated.
>
> I have performed a lot of research, and I have found that we may prevent
> WINS server from sending the multicast packages by modifying the following
> registry keys:
>
> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\WINS\Parameters]
>
> McastIntvl = 0X0FFFFFFF
> UseSelfFndPnrs = 1
>
> Note that the path of the key has been changed from CurrentControlSet to
> ControlSet001, and the two values data are all changed.
>
> Hope this helps, and I look forward to hearing from you. Thank you for
> your time and it is my pleasure to work with you on this issue!
>
> Have a nice day!
>
> Steven Wang (MSFT)
> Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
>
> --------------------
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>>Subject: Re: WINS 4204 Every 40 Minutes
>>Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 22:19:09 -0400
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>>Hi Steve,
>>
>>I just don't get it. We put in the registry changes exactly as Microsoft
>>recommends and I'm still getting the WINS error every 40 minutes. The
> part
>>that really blows my mind is that this is a very standard install of SBS
>>2003. I didn't do any thing different than my other installs. All
> service
>>packs and updates are installed and I've never messed with WINS. Do I
> even
>>need it running. The error is very annoying. I have 3 local XP Pro
> clients
>>and 1 XP Pro client that comes in via a VPN. That's it.
>>
>>Please help. Thanks!
>>
>>
>>"Anonymous" <someone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>> OK, we are rebooting this morning...
>>>
>>> "Steven Wang [MSFT]" <v-stwang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:ltgNPbosFHA.1208@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your reply!
>>>>
>>>> The server needs to be restarted to make the registry changes effect.
> If
>>>> the issue still exists after the next reboot of the server, please feel
>>>> free to let me know.
>>>>
>>>> Have a nice day!
>>>>
>>>> Steven Wang (MSFT)
>>>> Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --------------------
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>>>>>Subject: Re: WINS 4204 Every 40 Minutes
>>>>>Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 12:21:32 -0400
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>>>>>
>>>>>I had tried this before, but noticed that there was a typo on one of
>>>>>the
>>>>>registry entries. I've now corrected it but assume the changes won't
>>>>>go
>>>> in
>>>>>affect until the next reboot. I hope this works.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>>"Steven Wang [MSFT]" <v-stwang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>>news:GmeEO0fsFHA.3308@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for posting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From your post, my understanding of this issue is: you're
> experiencing
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> your WINS is running on a SBS 2003 server is generated an event every
>>>>>> 40
>>>>>> minutes. Event Source: Wins, Event ID: 4204. If this is not
>>>>>> correct,
>>>>>> please feel free to let me know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Based on my research, I have found that when the WINS service is
>>>>>> started
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> Windows NT Technology based server, it automatically sends IGMP
> packets
>>>> to
>>>>>> multicast address 224.0.1.24. This is a multicast packet sent by the
>>>> WINS
>>>>>> service looking for possible replication partners. WINS periodically
>>>>>> sends
>>>>>> information about itself by means of these packets. If you do not
> want
>>>>>> these multicast packets to be sent, set UseSelfFndPnrs in the
>>>>>> registry
>>>>>> under the following key to DWORD 0 and also set McastIntvl to some
> huge
>>>>>> value (DWORD FFFFFFFF for instance; by default the interval is 2400,
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> is, 40 minutes).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Use the Registry Editor to set the UseSelfFndPnrs and McastIntvl
>>>>>> entries
>>>>>> under the following Registry key:
>>>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Wins\Parameters
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For more information about this issue, please refer to the following
> KB
>>>>>> article:
>>>>>> WINS Server Sends IGMP Packets on Startup
>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=151761
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In addition, if there are only Windows XP Pro workstations in the
>>>> network,
>>>>>> I think it's unnecessary to run WINS server in the network. WINS is
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> NetBIOS name resolution service that allows client computers to
>>>>>> register
>>>>>> their NetBIOS names and IP addresses in a dynamic, distributed
> database
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> to resolve the NetBIOS names of network resources to their IP
>>>>>> addresses.
>>>>>> WINS is needed in any Microsoft Windows network environment that
>>>>>> includes
>>>>>> operating systems or applications that rely on NetBIOS. Since only
>>>>>> operating systems earlier than Windows 2000 rely on NetBIOS, WINS
>>>>>> server
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> only needed for operating systems that earlier than Windows 2000.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, for the compatibility and performance reason, I suggest we
>>>>>> do
>>>> not
>>>>>> disable the WINS server, as some applications may still use NetBIOS
>>>>>> name.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns related to this issue, please
> let
>>>> me
>>>>>> know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I appreciate your time and look forward to hearing from you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steven Wang (MSFT)
>>>>>> Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 22:01:10 -0500
>>>>>>>From: "Anonymous" <someone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
>>>>>>>Subject: WINS 4204 Every 40 Minutes
>>>>>>>Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2005 23:00:59 -0400
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Another weird issue with a recent SBS install. Very standard and
> small
>>>>>>>network with only 3 XP Pro workstations and an HP 1320N networked
> laser
>>>>>> jet
>>>>>>>printer. Every 40 minutes, a WINS 4204 error is logged in the event
>>>> logs.
>>>>>>>This is realy annoying. I've tried all the permission changes, etc.
> in
>>>> MS
>>>>>>>articles and reducing the time interval of WINS looking for
> replication
>>>>>>>parters. However, nothing has worked. I even took the 1320N printer
>>>>>>>off
>>>>>>>the network for a day to see if it was responding to multicast
>>>>>>>packets
>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>WINS. That was not the culprit. Has anyone ever seen this? Do I
> even
>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>WINS running?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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