Re: WINS 4204 Every 40 Minutes

Hi,

I do understand your concern, and it is really frustrated.

I have performed a lot of research, and I have found that we may prevent
WINS server from sending the multicast packages by modifying the following
registry keys:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\WINS\Parameters]

McastIntvl = 0X0FFFFFFF
UseSelfFndPnrs = 1

Note that the path of the key has been changed from CurrentControlSet to
ControlSet001, and the two values data are all changed.

Hope this helps, and I look forward to hearing from you. Thank you for
your time and it is my pleasure to work with you on this issue!

Have a nice day!

Steven Wang (MSFT)
Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support

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>Subject: Re: WINS 4204 Every 40 Minutes
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>Hi Steve,
>
>I just don't get it. We put in the registry changes exactly as Microsoft
>recommends and I'm still getting the WINS error every 40 minutes. The
part
>that really blows my mind is that this is a very standard install of SBS
>2003. I didn't do any thing different than my other installs. All
service
>packs and updates are installed and I've never messed with WINS. Do I
even
>need it running. The error is very annoying. I have 3 local XP Pro
clients
>and 1 XP Pro client that comes in via a VPN. That's it.
>
>Please help. Thanks!
>
>
>"Anonymous" <someone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> OK, we are rebooting this morning...
>>
>> "Steven Wang [MSFT]" <v-stwang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:ltgNPbosFHA.1208@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Thanks for your reply!
>>>
>>> The server needs to be restarted to make the registry changes effect.
If
>>> the issue still exists after the next reboot of the server, please feel
>>> free to let me know.
>>>
>>> Have a nice day!
>>>
>>> Steven Wang (MSFT)
>>> Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------
>>>>NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 11:21:44 -0500
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>>> <GmeEO0fsFHA.3308@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>Subject: Re: WINS 4204 Every 40 Minutes
>>>>Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 12:21:32 -0400
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>>>>I had tried this before, but noticed that there was a typo on one of the
>>>>registry entries. I've now corrected it but assume the changes won't go
>>> in
>>>>affect until the next reboot. I hope this works.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks!
>>>>
>>>>"Steven Wang [MSFT]" <v-stwang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>news:GmeEO0fsFHA.3308@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for posting.
>>>>>
>>>>> From your post, my understanding of this issue is: you're
experiencing
>>>>> is
>>>>> your WINS is running on a SBS 2003 server is generated an event every
>>>>> 40
>>>>> minutes. Event Source: Wins, Event ID: 4204. If this is not correct,
>>>>> please feel free to let me know.
>>>>>
>>>>> Based on my research, I have found that when the WINS service is
>>>>> started
>>>>> on
>>>>> Windows NT Technology based server, it automatically sends IGMP
packets
>>> to
>>>>> multicast address 224.0.1.24. This is a multicast packet sent by the
>>> WINS
>>>>> service looking for possible replication partners. WINS periodically
>>>>> sends
>>>>> information about itself by means of these packets. If you do not
want
>>>>> these multicast packets to be sent, set UseSelfFndPnrs in the registry
>>>>> under the following key to DWORD 0 and also set McastIntvl to some
huge
>>>>> value (DWORD FFFFFFFF for instance; by default the interval is 2400,
>>>>> that
>>>>> is, 40 minutes).
>>>>>
>>>>> Use the Registry Editor to set the UseSelfFndPnrs and McastIntvl
>>>>> entries
>>>>> under the following Registry key:
>>>>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Wins\Parameters
>>>>>
>>>>> For more information about this issue, please refer to the following
KB
>>>>> article:
>>>>> WINS Server Sends IGMP Packets on Startup
>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=151761
>>>>>
>>>>> In addition, if there are only Windows XP Pro workstations in the
>>> network,
>>>>> I think it's unnecessary to run WINS server in the network. WINS is a
>>>>> NetBIOS name resolution service that allows client computers to
>>>>> register
>>>>> their NetBIOS names and IP addresses in a dynamic, distributed
database
>>>>> and
>>>>> to resolve the NetBIOS names of network resources to their IP
>>>>> addresses.
>>>>> WINS is needed in any Microsoft Windows network environment that
>>>>> includes
>>>>> operating systems or applications that rely on NetBIOS. Since only
>>>>> operating systems earlier than Windows 2000 rely on NetBIOS, WINS
>>>>> server
>>>>> is
>>>>> only needed for operating systems that earlier than Windows 2000.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, for the compatibility and performance reason, I suggest we do
>>> not
>>>>> disable the WINS server, as some applications may still use NetBIOS
>>>>> name.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns related to this issue, please
let
>>> me
>>>>> know.
>>>>>
>>>>> I appreciate your time and look forward to hearing from you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Steven Wang (MSFT)
>>>>> Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
>>>>>
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>>>>>>NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 22:01:10 -0500
>>>>>>From: "Anonymous" <someone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
>>>>>>Subject: WINS 4204 Every 40 Minutes
>>>>>>Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2005 23:00:59 -0400
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>Another weird issue with a recent SBS install. Very standard and
small
>>>>>>network with only 3 XP Pro workstations and an HP 1320N networked
laser
>>>>> jet
>>>>>>printer. Every 40 minutes, a WINS 4204 error is logged in the event
>>> logs.
>>>>>>This is realy annoying. I've tried all the permission changes, etc.
in
>>> MS
>>>>>>articles and reducing the time interval of WINS looking for
replication
>>>>>>parters. However, nothing has worked. I even took the 1320N printer
>>>>>>off
>>>>>>the network for a day to see if it was responding to multicast packets
>>>>> from
>>>>>>WINS. That was not the culprit. Has anyone ever seen this? Do I
even
>>>>> need
>>>>>>WINS running?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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