Re: isaserver.org gets SBS friendly

Dvord Direwood wrote:

Frank,

I appreciate your comment. Let me take your metaphor a little further. What you're suggesting is that I buy your convertible because it will take me down the road and it's cheaper than a car with a roof. When I get down the road and it starts raining, the roof does not come out, I get soaked, and my electronics burn out, and I'm stranded by the roadside.

Baloney. The only reason that would happen is if you didn't follow the instructions that said "Before driving, please attach the roof to the car".


Taking that one step further, I come back to you and say "well this won't work for me, because I want to drive AND stay dry." However, I can't return the car, and I can't upgrade the car for a discount. I have to put the car in the field and buy the car I really needed in the first place, spending more than I would have anyway.

Nope. Not true. SBS is not a technical dead-end. If later on down the road, the SBS size limits become restrictive, there is a path to the standard products. It's called the Transition Pack, and is priced so that you spend the same amount (approximately) that you would have done buying the standard products in the first place.


I appreciate the work they have done with SBS. A rose by any other name is still a rose, and putting multiple services on the same platform is still bad news.

So you routinely equip your customers with 6 servers when they ask for ISA, SQL and Exchange? Even for a 10-20 user shop?



Microsoft says SBS will run your business web site. However, they do not say that this web site is more vulnerable to attack than any other IIS implementation. Other MVP's say themselves that you should not run IIS publically with SBS. It's a security risk. Why market it that way?

SBS might meet the budget needs of small business, but it snowballs technology neophytes into a product which flaunts many features but in fact only delivers on half, and does so with frequent downtime and unpatchable vulnerabilities.

When you market a product to do something, and imply (by your brand), that it is of high quality; then fail to deliver those features, knowingly distribute it against common security practice, and furthermore do not have an upgrade path out of that product line: it's at best misrepresentative, and at it's worst criminal.

These three paragraphs clearly show that you have absolutely no clue about SBS. Have you *actually* ever installed it on a machine?

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Steve Foster [SBS MVP]
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