RE: Mac file names too long??

Hi Danny,

Thank you for posting in SBS newsgroup. Hi William, Thanks for your
information.

Generally speaking, for the SBS 2003 domain with MAC clients, some
particular settings need to be configured. We need to configure the
networking settings on the MAC; modify the directory service options; also,
some settings on the SBS server need to be changed. However, please
understand that some SBS 2003 features may still not be supported on a MAC
client. For the MAC in the SBS domain, please refer to the steps of the
following:

You can check the white paper and ensure both the server and the clients
are properly configured:

Connecting Mac OS X 10.3 and Higher Clients to a Windows Small Business
Server 2003 Network
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=89EE677B-0FF6-4558-
A54B-6070E2C8CD65&displaylang=en

Also, you can refer to my steps to check if you have configured the server
and client correctly: [note: please notice the ISA section of the bottom of
the reply especially]

I. Check the TCP/IP properties of the MAC client. If the MAC client is
configured to obtain the TCP/IP settings from SBS based DHCP, the settings
should be properly implemented. If the TCP/IP properties of the MAC client
are manually configured, please make sure that DNS server is pointing to
the SBS internal IP address and the internal domain name is configured for
''Search Domains''. If you find that the IPv6 is configured, please turn
off the IPv6 on the MAC client.

II. If the SBS domain is named as domain.local, please enable the .local
name resolution on the MAC client. For the detailed information, please
refer to the following KB article:

836413 You receive an "unexpected error occurred" error message when you
try to
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=836413

III. The ''Access Deny'' is probably caused by the SMB signing enabled on
the SBS 2003 server. By default, security settings on domain controllers
that run Windows Server 2003 are configured to help prevent domain
controller communications from being intercepted or tampered with by
malicious users. For users to successfully negotiate communications with a
domain controller that runs Windows Server 2003, these default security
settings require that client computer use both server message block (SMB)
signing and encryption or signing of secure channel traffic. Since the MAC
client does not support the SMB encryption, we need to disable the SMB
signing on the SBS server. For the detailed steps, please refer to the
following link:

http://www.smallbizserver.net/DesktopDefault.aspx?tabid=98

811497 Error Message When Windows 95 or Windows NT 4.0 Client Logs On to
Windows Server 2003 Domain
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=811497

IV. Configure the Directory Access on the MAC computer:
1. Open Directory Access (Macintosh HD > Applications > Utilities >
Directory Access).
2. Click the lock to make changes .
3. Enter password for local Macintosh account .
4. Select SMB and click Configure.
5. Enter the NetBIOS name of the domain in the Workgroup field (see figure
2.)
6. Enter the IP address of the SBS server in the WINS Server field, and
then click OK..
7. Click OK.
8. Click Apply and close Directory Access..

V. Configure the File Sharing for the MAC client:

SBS Server Side:

1. Install File Services for Macintosh on the SBS server

a. Open Add or Remove Programs in the Control Panel.
b. Click Add/Remove Windows Components.
c. Select Other Network File and Print Services and click Details...
d. Enable File Services for Macintosh.
e. Click OK.
f. Click Next.
g. Wait for the components to install, and click Finish.
h. Close the Windows installer and the Add or Remote Programs control panel.

2. Configuring Shared Folder as File Server for Macintosh

a. Click Start, right-click on My Computer and then click Manage.
b. Right-click on Shared Folders and then click Configure File Server for
Macintosh.
c. Change Enable Authentication to Apple Clear Text or Microsoft.
d. Click Apply then click OK.

3. Create shares on the SBS server that Mac will be able to access (other
than the Microsoft UAM volume)

a. Right-click on My Computer and select Manage.
b. Expand the Shared Folders icon.
c. Right-click on Shares and select New Share.
d. Click Next.
e. Enter the path to the folder on the hard drive or click Browse to select
the folder (for example, Users Shared Folder).
f. Click Next.
g. If the folder selected is already shared to your Windows clients,
uncheck the Microsoft Windows users checkbox.
h. Enable the Apple Macintosh users checkbox and enter a name (for example,
Mac Users Shared Folder) for the share in the Share name field.
i. Click Next.
j. Click Finish.
k. Click Close.
l. Right-click on the new share and select Properties.
m. Uncheck the This volume is read-only checkbox and click OK.

Mac OS X-based client Side:

1. Install Microsoft UAM on the MAC client
http://www.microsoft.com/mac/otherproducts/otherproducts.aspx?pid=windows200
0sfm

2. Enable and configure AppleTalk on the Mac OS X

a. From the Apple Menu, select System Preferences .
b. Click the Network icon .
c. Select Built-in Ethernet and click Configure.
d. Click the AppleTalk tab and select the Make AppleTalk Active checkbox
(see figure 3).
e. Click Apply Now and close System Preferences.

3. Configure the AppleTalk protocol

a. Open Macintosh HD.
b. Click Applications in the left pane.
c. Open the Utilities folder in the right pane.
d. Double-click the Directory Access application.
e. Click the lock to make changes.
f. Enter the username and password for the local Macintosh user.
g. Clear Active Directory and SMB.
h. Select AppleTalk.
i. Click Apply and quit Directory Access.

4. Connect to the SBS server

a. From the Finder, press Command-K.
b. In the Server Address field, enter afp://servername, where servername is
the AppleTalk name of the server.
c. Click Connect.
d. Enter the username and password to connect to the server.
e. Select the volume or volumes you wish to mount and click OK.
f. The volume(s) will mount on the desktop.

For the MAC - SBS access, please also refer to the following KB article:

830044 Macintosh users cannot connect to Outlook Web Access (OWA) when OWA
is
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=830044

In addition, could you please let me know if ISA server is installed on the
SBS server? If so, you may also need to modify the ISA configurations. The
predefined ISA access rules only allow the authenticated users to access
the Internet. Since the Firewall client cannot be installed on the MAC
clients, you also need to change the ISA configurations to allow the access
from the MAC computers:

1. Make sure that you have run CEICW on the SBS server to configure the
internet connections:

825763 How to configure Internet access in Windows Small Business Server
2003
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=825763

2. Create a client set for the MAC computers. In ISA Management console,
expand Policy Elements. Select Client Address Sets. Select "Create a Client
Set". For the Name let''s use "MAC Clients". Click ADD and type in the IP
addresses or range of addresses that will be used for the MAC computers.
Click OK.

3. Create a Protocol Rule to allow MAC Clients to pass through the
Firewall. Expand Access Policy. Select Protocol Rules. Select "Create a
Protocol Rule". Let''s use "MAC Rule" for the name. Click NEXT until you
get to the *** entitled "Client Type". Select "Specific Computers (client
address sets), click Next. Click ADD. Select the "MAC Clients" we created
earlier and click "Add ". Click OK, Click Next, Click Finish.

4. Create a Site and content rule to allow the MAC Clients to access the
web sites.

5. In ISA Management console, right-click the ServerName and choose
''Properties''. In ''Outgoing web requests'' tab, uncheck ''Ask
unauthenticated users for identification'' box. Click ''OK'' to close the
dialog boxes. Navigate to ''Monitoring''\''Services''. Restart the ISA
related services.

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I hope the above information helps. If you have any questions or concerns,
please feel free to let me know.

Best regards,

Crina Li (MSFT)

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| From: "Danny" <danny@xxxxxxxxx>
| Subject: Mac file names too long??
| Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 13:37:16 +0100
| | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
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| We have an SBS2K3 server and various WinXP and Mac clients.
|
| We have 2 main problems;
| 1..... is that when we attampt to copy files with names ove 31 characters
it
| will not allow this unless we reduce the file name. Is there a way around
| this or is this a limitation with using MACs on windows server??
|
| 2... is that the MACs can see and share files on the server and talk to
the
| internet provided the users passwords are blank....if we create passwords
| for the users on the server then we cannot access the server etc
regardless
| of the autentication method we try to use. Even without passwords we are
| unable to perform certain functions from the MACs, i.e. FTP to other sites
| even using passive FTP, we cannot listen to the radio through the MACs
even
| though realplayer has the correct proxy settings etc. There is no problem
| from the WinXP clients so I believe that the ISA server must be configured
| OK. We have followed some articles for bypassing the proxy server on the
| MACs, however even once this has been implemented they still get an ISA
| authentication error, even though we are trying to bypass it.
|
| Any help resolving these issues would be greatly appreciated.
|
| D
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|

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