Re: License Management ... Client Setup

Thank you Crina!

Using the Links you provided I think I figured out the 'correct answer' to
my SBS2003 licensing questions ... with the result that I believe I will
need to use a Linux server for some email account services that I was hoping
I could provide with a single SBS2003 server.

Please comment if you think I have it wrong.

I think this is the correct summary of how Microsoft intends the Licenses
for SBS servers be implemented:

1) CAL licenses are NOT intended for use by 'concurrent users'
1a) CAL Licenses are required for 'logon enabled users'
1b) The total number of users defined is NOT restricted, the number of
'enabled' user is restricted by the number of CALs
1c) The total number of WebServer connected users is NOT restricted, the
number of CALs is not relevant for this purpose

The implication is that for a 10 CAL server I can have more than 10 users
defined, but a maximum of 10 able to logon at any time. So, if I have 25
users defined on my 10 CAL licensed server ... 15 of these users must be in
the 'disabled state'. Disabled user accounts cannot use Email, because
Exchange is required to support Email and does require a CAL for each user.

It is likely that there will never be more than 10 concurrent users, but
about 55 users will require valid userIDs that can be used for secure email
services at any given time.

I have one customer that has 4 employees and 2 'on-site' contractors that
require 'ordinary' CAL licenses ... and about 50 users that only require
Webserver / database access and (very light usage) eMail access. It appears
that it is within the license restrictions to allow an ulimited number of
Webserver / database connections ... but NOT within the licensing
restrictions to provide eMail accounts for these users on the 10 CAL system,
because Exchange is required for Email and it's usage does require a CAL.

So, I will need to setup a Linux Server to provide the additional Email
accounts instead of allowing them to connect to the SBS 2003 server for
Email, as the cost of additional CALs for infrequent Email only usage is too
expensive.

Right?

Or is there a way to provide SMTP / POP service without Exchange (maybe IIS
instead) for secure email messaging ... and stay within the terms of the
License? I don't see that option, so have concluded that using a NON
Microsoft solution for the email server is required to avoid violating the
Microsoft License agreement.


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"Crina Li (MSFT)" <v-crinal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:ClJtaIioFHA.3120@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Hi Blondie,
>
> Thank you for posting in SBS newsgroup.
>
> As I know, the CAL license only limits the number of connected user not
> the
> number of clients defined. You can add more user based on your
> requirement.
> However, you can only let 10 clients connect to SBS at the same time and
> it
> also depends on the CALs you have purchased. If you choose device CALs
> then
> each device that accesses the Windows Small Business Server 2003 server
> will consume a CAL. You can re-allocate that CAL if you retire a device.
> If
> you have purchased User CALs, only the named user can access to SBS and
> the
> licensed users can access the server from any device.
>
> If the number exceeds 10, you will break the Licensing rule and receive
> the
> alert message. You will need to maintain records of what you have
> purchased, and how you have assigned the first 5 CALs that come with the
> server. Windows Small Business Server 2003 does not provide an automated
> way to track CAL use.
>
> The following is the description regarding the Device CALs and User CALs:
>
> Device CALs:
>
> With device CALs, you acquire a CAL for every device that accesses your
> server. With this option, any user can access the server on the licensed
> device. Device CALs might make the most economic and administrative sense
> for an organization that has multiple users for one device, such as shift
> workers.
>
> User CALs:
>
> With user CALs, you acquire a CAL for every named user accessing your
> server. The licensed users can access the server from any device. User
> CALs
> might make the most sense for an organization that has many roaming
> employees that need access to the corporate network from mobile devices
> and/or employees who use multiple devices to access the network.
>
> For more detailed information regarding SBS 2003 licensing, please refer
> to
> the following documents:
>
> Pricing and Licensing for Windows Small Business Server 2003
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/sbs/howtobuy/pricing.mspx#XSLTsec
> tion125121120120
>
> Frequently Asked Questions About Windows Small Business Server 2003
> Licensing
> http://www.microsoft.com/WindowsServer2003/sbs/techinfo/overview/licensingfa
> q.mspx
>
> Client Access Licensing for Windows Small Business Server 2003
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/sbs/howtobuy/CALs.mspx
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/sam/lic_cal_smallbiz2003_server.mspx
>
> For licensing questions, I also recommend you call 1-800-426-9400 (select
> option 4), Monday through Friday, 6:00 A.M. to 6:00 P.M. (PST) to speak
> directly to a Microsoft licensing specialist.
>
> Worldwide customers can use the Guide to Worldwide Microsoft Licensing
> Sites http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/index/worldwide.asp to find
> contact information in their locations.
>
> Hope the information help and I look forward to your reply.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Crina Li (MSFT)
>
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> | From: "Blondie" <nobody@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> | Subject: License Management ... Client Setup
> | Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 11:58:19 -0400
> | | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
> | |
> | I need a little more help in understanding how Client Licensing works
> ...
> | and possibly some clarification of Microsoft's meaining of xx Clients.
> |
> | I manage a small SBS 2003 installation, with 10 CALs.
> | There are currently 10 Clients defined.
> | There has never been more than 7 clients connected at any one time.
> |
> | I need to add another Client ... and would like to sure that I am doing
> this
> | 'right'.
> |
> | Does the 10 CAL license limit the number of clients defined ... or
> connected
> | at any time?
> |
> | Do I need to disable or remove one of the existing 10 clients before
> adding
> | a new one?
> |
> | Can I simply add more clients and monitor the 'client connections'? ...
> | attempting to keep it at 10 or below.
> |
> | Does the server simply refuse to allow the logon of an 11th client
> | connection? Or ... is there something that I need to do to ensure
> license
> | compliance?
> |
> | Thanks
> | --
> | Blondie
> | Please reply to newsgroup
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