RE: mail relay problems setting up



Hi Brandy

thanks for doing all this work for me

I am working on two fronts at the moment

1) I have set in train a move away from BT to a different host - one that I
know to work (I hope it does this time!) with SBS 2003. This will be a better
solution anyway for the webhosting alone so it will work out alright. This
wil take a few days to complete and I will let you know

2) I would like to know what is going on with the DNS route, especially if
there is a blacklist problem, so I will work through your suggestions and let
you know.

Many thanks will be in touch

John

""Brandy Nee [MSFT]"" wrote:

> Hello John,
>
> Thank you for posting back.
>
> I have not received your email yet. I have performed a lot of researching
> and tests, please see my following information:
>
> 1> You mentioned that "see through message tracker that the messages leave
> this server and go on", so this might be the receiver's issue if you make
> sure that the emails are being sent out.
>
> 2> Then we can go to www.dnsstuff.com, do nslookup for your MX record, ping
> the MX record to get the IP address and then input the IP address to check
> for spam list to see whether your MX record is in a blacklist. The detail
> steps are:
>
> a. Go to http://www.dnsstuff.com
>
> b. Use nslookup for coulterwindows.co.uk MX record.
>
> c. You will get the MX Record is ibmr.btconnect.com.
>
> d. Ping ibmr.btconnect.com, you will get the IP address is: [194.73.73.216].
>
> e. Input 194.73.73.216 under Spam database lookup blank, click Lookup, and
> you will can check whether your MX record is in blacklist.
>
> f. As for the blacklist you need to contact the blacklist owner to remove
> it.
>
> 3> We can also use telnet to test email flow to the servers that you cannot
> send emails to. You need to use www.dnsstuff.com to get the destination
> domain's MX record and then telnet to it. For detail steps please refer to
> the following KB article:
>
> 153119 XFOR: Telnet to Port 25 to Test SMTP Communication
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=153119
>
> Hope this information helps. If you have any questions or concerns on this
> issue, please feel free to let me know. I am glad to be of assistance!
>
> Best regards,
>
> Brandy Nee
>
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> --------------------
> >Thread-Topic: mail relay problems setting up
> >thread-index: AcWiTS8orlF+FYYCTHKhuHLlAPwOVQ==
> >X-WBNR-Posting-Host: 217.37.68.217
> >From: =?Utf-8?B?Sm9obiBNY0NvbWJl?= <JohnMcCombe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >References: <20DAF106-F442-4657-B628-2970ACE0BA32@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> <kC8aBHXoFHA.3472@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> <258DCFA7-EC71-4CE6-8781-E88365BF685F@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> <BEFCFCA6-255B-4D9F-8C4F-D31BCEAD873A@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> <8ePIrCkoFHA.2700@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: RE: mail relay problems setting up
> >Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 03:28:03 -0700
> >Lines: 326
> >Message-ID: <274BE9BD-600E-4BE5-8F58-55C23E1B1C17@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >MIME-Version: 1.0
> >Content-Type: text/plain;
> > charset="Utf-8"
> >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >X-Newsreader: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000
> >Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message
> >Importance: normal
> >Priority: normal
> >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.0
> >Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
> >NNTP-Posting-Host: TK2MSFTNGXA03.phx.gbl 10.40.2.250
> >Path: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGXA03.phx.gbl
> >Xref: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs:144815
> >X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
> >
> >thanks, Brandy
> >
> >I have switched back to Use DNS to route to each address space on this
> >connector
> >
> >and can see through message tracker that the messages leave this server
> and
> >go on. But they do not arrive at their destination
> >
> >i am trying to send one to your email address now - thanks for that
> >
> >By the way, my latest conversation with a guy called Mark at BT
> >(complaints@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) was to the effect that BT does not
> support
> >SBS 2003 as it is too complicated and BT will not pay for them to be
> trained
> >in it! They will support Outlook Express and Outlook only.
> >
> >Is there someone at Microsoft that I could share this infromation with? I
> am
> >sure that this is an untenable position
> >
> >thanks for your help so far I appreciate it!
> >
> >John
> >
> >
> >
> >""Brandy Nee [MSFT]"" wrote:
> >
> >> Hello John,
> >>
> >> Thank you for posting back and you detail information!
> >>
> >> From the SMTP log file after you change to use DNS, it seems that of the
> >> most SMTP transactions are successful. Just a double check whether you
> can
> >> send emails successfully using DNS. You can send me some emails by using
> >> this methord (Use DNS to route to each address space on this connector)
> for
> >> test.
> >>
> >> Also, from the SMTP log, I notice the following error information,
> please
> >> see:
> >>
> >> 2005-08-15 13:17:41 194.73.73.216 OutboundConnectionResponse SMTPSVC1
> >> COULTER-MAIN - 25 - - 535+5.7.3+Authentication+unsuccessful 0 0 37 0
> 3328
> >> SMTP - - - -
> >> 2005-08-15 13:17:45 64.97.139.1 OutboundConnectionResponse SMTPSVC1
> >> COULTER-MAIN - 25 - - 535+invalid+user+ID+or+password 0 0 31 0 5750 SMTP
> - -
> >>
> >> From the error message, it shows us that your SBS server cannot forward
> >> emails to the smart host due to authentication issue. It seems that your
> >> Smart Host requires transmitting user name and password with messages to
> >> the remote domain. So you need to contact the smart host provider and
> ask
> >> for the user name, password and the authentication method.
> >>
> >> After you got the user name and password, you need to input them on your
> >> Exchange server. To do so, please see:
> >>
> >> 1. Open Exchange System Manager. Expand to Yourdomain
> >> (Exchange)\Connector\SmallBusiness SMTP Connector.
> >>
> >> 2. Right click SmallBusiness SMTP Connector, select Properites, go to
> >> Advanced tab.
> >>
> >> 3. Click Outbound Security.
> >>
> >> 4. Select Basic Authentication and click Modify.
> >>
> >> 5. Input the user name and password in the blanks.
> >>
> >> 6. Click OK three times and test the issue again.
> >>
> >> If the smart host really does something special not to support SBS, you
> can
> >> negotiate with them and consider switching to another ISP or smart host.
> >>
> >> Hope this information helps. If anything is unclear, please feel free to
> >> let me know. I am looking forward to hearing from you soon!
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> Brandy Nee
> >>
> >> Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
> >>
> >> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
> >> ======================================================
> >> This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have issues
> >> regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the
> corresponding
> >> newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and timely
> manner.
> >> You can locate the newsgroup here:
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx
> >>
> >> When opening a new thread via the web interface, we recommend you check
> the
> >> "Notify me of replies" box to receive e-mail notifications when there
> are
> >> any updates in your thread. When responding to posts via your
> newsreader,
> >> please "Reply to Group" so that others may learn and benefit from your
> >> issue.
> >>
> >> Microsoft engineers can only focus on one issue per thread. Although we
> >> provide other information for your reference, we recommend you post
> >> different incidents in different threads to keep the thread clean. In
> doing
> >> so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.
> >>
> >> For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS directly.
> Please
> >> check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
> >>
> >> Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
> >> ======================================================
> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --------------------
> >> >Thread-Topic: mail relay problems setting up
> >> >thread-index: AcWhvkcmlGSQ2Gt7QpW578gnUgaQNw==
> >> >X-WBNR-Posting-Host: 81.133.9.98
> >> >From: =?Utf-8?B?Sm9obiBNY0NvbWJl?=
> <JohnMcCombe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >References: <20DAF106-F442-4657-B628-2970ACE0BA32@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <kC8aBHXoFHA.3472@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> <258DCFA7-EC71-4CE6-8781-E88365BF685F@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >Subject: RE: mail relay problems setting up
> >> >Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 10:25:05 -0700
> >> >Lines: 331
> >> >Message-ID: <BEFCFCA6-255B-4D9F-8C4F-D31BCEAD873A@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >MIME-Version: 1.0
> >> >Content-Type: text/plain;
> >> > charset="Utf-8"
> >> >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >> >X-Newsreader: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000
> >> >Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message
> >> >Importance: normal
> >> >Priority: normal
> >> >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.0
> >> >Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
> >> >NNTP-Posting-Host: TK2MSFTNGXA03.phx.gbl 10.40.2.250
> >> >Path: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGXA03.phx.gbl
> >> >Xref: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs:144520
> >> >X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
> >> >
> >> >I am really learning stuff here - but not how to get thsi email relay
> to
> >> work!
> >> >
> >> >I have sent an email using telnet through mail.btconnect.com, I now
> >> >understand a little bit more how the commands should look.
> >> >
> >> >I have also created reports from another (successful) server that I
> have
> >> set
> >> >up before, and I see that in the log for the server I'm working on now
> >> This
> >> >an extract:
> >> >
> >> >2005-08-15 14:43:26 216.200.145.17 OutboundConnectionResponse SMTPSVC1
> >> >BG1491J - 25 - - 220+dm18.mta.everyone.net+ESMTP+EON-AUTHRELAY2 0 0 46
> 0
> >> 172
> >> >SMTP - - - -
> >> >2005-08-15 14:43:26 216.200.145.17 OutboundConnectionCommand SMTPSVC1
> >> >BG1491J - 25 EHLO - bhp-systems.co.uk 0 0 4 0 187 SMTP - - - -
> >> >2005-08-15 14:43:26 216.200.145.17 OutboundConnectionResponse SMTPSVC1
> >> >BG1491J - 25 - - 250-dm18.mta.everyone.net 0 0 25 0 375 SMTP - - - -
> >> >2005-08-15 14:43:26 216.200.145.17 OutboundConnectionCommand SMTPSVC1
> >> >BG1491J - 25 AUTH - - 0 0 4 0 375 SMTP - - - -
> >> >2005-08-15 14:43:26 216.200.145.17 OutboundConnectionResponse SMTPSVC1
> >> >BG1491J - 25 - - 334+UGFzc3dvcmQ6 0 0 16 0 562 SMTP - - - -
> >> >2005-08-15 14:43:26 216.200.145.17 OutboundConnectionResponse SMTPSVC1
> >> >BG1491J - 25 - - 235+Authentication+successful 0 0 29 0 812 SMTP - - - -
> >> >
> >> >ther is no 'auth' command in the logs for the 'new' server. Can anyone
> >> >assist please?
> >> >
> >> >many thanks
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"John McCombe" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Here is the relay smtp log file:
> >> >>
> >> >> #Software: Microsoft Internet Information Services 6.0
.



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