RE: Internet connection via 2nd network card without ISA

Hello Gibgo,

Thank you for posting back!

I understand that one of your client computer accesses Internet very slow
and you still cannot access the Server Management Console because you
cannot go to C drive. Please understand that we need to troubleshoot your
issues one by one.

>From the information you have applied, I still cannot get a clear image
what exact Network Topology it is. Please select one of the options below
for your Network Topology. Or you can redraw it:

a. SBS - Modem - Internet - Router - SBS - Internal Clients

b. Internal Clients - Switch - Router 1- SBS - Router 2 - Internet

Also, where did you "put in the 2nd net work card"?

Please make sure that the DNS settings on all your client workstations
needs to point to SBS INTERNAL NIC IP as the only entry.

I am appreciated your time and cooperation, and am looking forward to
hearing from you!

Best regards,

Brandy Nee

Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support

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>Subject: RE: Internet connection via 2nd network card without ISA
>Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 03:34:01 -0700
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>I have put in the 2nd net work card, the topology is as follows
>
>SBS>Router>internal clients
>
>2nd network card Modem/Router>SBS
>
>I have went into network connections & set the priority to the first
network
>card (original card).
>
>DHCP is seeing the 2nd network card 10.0.0.18
>
>I have used remote & router access with the 2nd network card as the static
>ip for internet connection 10.0.0.18
>
>The ip address range is
>Router 10.0.0.1
>Server 10.0.0.2
>Internal Clients 10.0.0.4-10.0.0.15......
>Modem/Router is 10.0.0.5
>2nd Network Card 10.0.0.18
>
>I have set up the 2nd network card with obtain ip address & it won't see
the
>router or ping it or with subnet 255.0.0.0. I have set the ip address to
>10.0.0.18 subnet 255.255.255.0 now it sees the router but won't connect to
>the net.
>I have tried setting the DNS to that of the server ip 10.0.0.2 but won't
>connect to the net, but sees the modem. I have tried setting the gateway
ip
>to that of the router & 2nd network card 10.0.0.5/10.0.0.18 but still sees
>the modem but cannot connect to the net.
>DHCP Server is switched off on the modem router
>NAT is enabled on the router
>
>The 1st network card I have tried numerous configurations with the ip
being
>10.0.0.2
>& subnet 255.255.255.0 & 255.0.0.0
>Setting the default gateway the to that of the router & 2nd network card
>DNS IP to that of the 1st network card/2nd network card & router ip with
no
>change, it can connect to the modem/router but not net
>
>I have not run internet & e-mail wizard I am denied access with the 2 ways
>through program files & documents/settings you suggested previously. The
user
>profile I have seems to have total rights. Don't understand
>
>Its a Netgear dg834gt modem/router
>Thanks
>"Gibgo" wrote:
>
>> I will send a proper description in the next thread.
>>
>> Now I am having a problem again, one of the internal clients with
Windows XP
>> Pro is slow to connect to the network. It eventually does & somestimes
says
>> access is denied but will go through the 2nd time.
>>
>> I have run browstat on this workstation, its returning an error 5.
Attached
>> below
>>
>> Status for domain ****PROJECT on transport \Device\NwlnkNb
>> Browsing is active on domain.
>> Master browser name is: ***BEUKES
>> Could not connect to registry, error = 5 Unable to determine
build of
>> bro
>> wser master: 5
>> Unable to determine server information for browser master: 5
>> 1 backup servers retrieved from master ***BEUKES
>> \\***BEUKES
>> Unable to retrieve server list from ***BEUKES: 64
>>
>>
>> Status for domain ****PROJECT on transport \Device\NwlnkIpx
>> Browsing is NOT active on domain.
>> Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus.
>>
>>
>> Status for domain ***PROJECT on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{71473A84-A50
>> 4-40BE-8791-5CF14AFEADF3}
>> Browsing is NOT active on domain.
>> Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus.
>>
>> C:\Program Files\Support Tools>
>>
>> ""Brandy Nee [MSFT]"" wrote:
>>
>> > Hello Gibgo,
>> >
>> > Thank you for posting back!
>> >
>> > I am glad to hear that the information helps and your original
questions
>> > have being resolved.
>> >
>> > Please see my following information:
>> >
>> > 1> From your reply, it seems that you cannot find the Server
Management
>> > icon on the Start menu. You can locate the C:\Program Files\Microsoft
>> > Windows Small Business Server\Administration\LaunchConsole.exe file
and run
>> > it. If you can find this file, you can create a shortcut and drag it
to the
>> > Start menu for future usage.
>> >
>> > If you cannot find the file in the specified folder, you also can try
>> > running the C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application
>> > Data\Microsoft\SmallBusinessServer\Administration\itprosbsconsole.msc
file
>> > directly to launch the Server Management console.
>> >
>> > 2> I am sorry that I cannot get a clear image how your Network
Topology it
>> > is. Please explain in detail "The Internal Router connects to the
>> > Modem/Router & than to the Server". Also, if your connections are
like:
>> >
>> > {SBS} {Modem} {Router}
>> >
>> > {Router} {Internal Clients}
>> >
>> > I need to know how you connect these two routers.
>> >
>> > Also, how do you connect your clients' workstations with the server
and
>> > internet?
>> >
>> > What we suggest is:
>> >
>> > {Internet} {Router} {ISA server (if it is SBS Premium)} {SBS 2K3
Server}
>> > {Internal Clients}
>> >
>> > Please see:
>> >
>> > Securing Your Windows Small Business Server 2003 Network
>> >
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/smallbusiness/prodtech/SBS/sec_sbs
>> > 2003_network.mspx
>> >
>> > Hope this information helps. If anything is unclear, please feel free
to
>> > let me know. I am looking forward to hearing from you!
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> >
>> > Brandy Nee
>> >
>> > Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
>> >
>> > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
>> > ======================================================
>> > This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have
issues
>> > regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the
corresponding
>> > newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and timely
manner.
>> > You can locate the newsgroup here:
>> > http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx
>> >
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>> > please "Reply to Group" so that others may learn and benefit from your
>> > issue.
>> >
>> > Microsoft engineers can only focus on one issue per thread. Although
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>> > provide other information for your reference, we recommend you post
>> > different incidents in different threads to keep the thread clean. In
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>> > so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.
>> >
>> > For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS directly.
Please
>> > check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
>> >
>> > Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
>> > ======================================================
>> > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
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>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --------------------
>> > >Thread-Topic: Internet connection via 2nd network card without ISA
>> > >thread-index: AcWeSY7FyMUTcLpcSJCq6D4Q7Xy5iQ==
>> > >X-WBNR-Posting-Host: 198.54.202.218
>> > >From: "=?Utf-8?B?R2liZ28=?=" <Gibgo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >References: <DA7892F0-6CB5-40CC-AE98-2C83D96D0E12@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > <RwkOpKYnFHA.940@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >Subject: RE: Internet connection via 2nd network card without ISA
>> > >Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 00:52:01 -0700
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>> > >
>> > >Thanks very much I think this will sort my problem out. Other problems
>> > >
>> > >I cannot locate Server Management. I do a search & find the
shortcuts.
>> > >The links are invalid as it says it cannot find it & shows an unknown
>> > icon.
>> > >Please advise.
>> > >
>> > >Topology of network
>> > >
>> > >SBS>Modem/Router>Router>Internal Clients
>> > >
>> > >The modem is a Netgear DG834GT Modem/Router/Access Point Combo. The
>> > Internal
>> > >Router connects to the Modem/Router & than to the Server. This is not
a
>> > very
>> > >secure way as the internal clients are prone to harm from the
internet
>> > >without having the SBS as a protection although the modem itself has
a
>> > >firewall.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >""Brandy Nee [MSFT]"" wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Hello Bibgo,
>> > >>
>> > >> Thank you for posting to the SBS Newsgroup.
>> > >>
>> > >> Thanks a lot for Luke's input!
>> > >>
>> > >> From your description, I cannot complete understand "share an
internet
>> > >> connection". Please see my following information:
>> > >>
>> > >> 1. What is your Network Topology? For example:
>> > >>
>> > >> {Internet} {Router} {NIC} {SBS} {NIC} {Internal Clients}
>> > >>
>> > >> 2. Please explain in detail what exact "internet connection" you
want to
>> > >> share.
>> > >>
>> > >> 3. If your concern is to configure your domain users to access the
>> > Internet
>> > >> without ISA server, you can refer to the following KB article to
run the
>> > >> Configure E-mail and Internet Connection Wizard for detailed steps.
The
>> > >> CEICW wizard will automatically configure RRAS to perform the NAT
>> > function.
>> > >>
>> > >> How to configure Internet access in Windows Small Business Server
2003
>> > >> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=825763
>> > >>
>> > >> [Note]: When you proceed to the Firewall page, please select Enable
>> > >> Firewall to secure your Network.
>> > >>
>> > >> 4. If your concern is to configure the Internet Connection Sharing.
>> > Please
>> > >> see:
>> > >>
>> > >> ICS is not installed on SBS 2003 and it is not recommended to use
ICS on
>> > >> any client computer. Instead, SBS uses the Routing and Remote
Access
>> > >> service (or ISA, if installed), which includes the same
functionality.
>> > >> Running the Configure E-mail and Internet Connection Wizard (CEICW)
from
>> > >> the To-Do list or the Server Management console will set up your
server
>> > to
>> > >> share the Internet connection and will give you all the
functionality of
>> > >> ICS (and then some).
>> > >>
>> > >> For your additional information:
>> > >>
>> > >> The Internet Connection Firewall (ICF)/Internet Connection Sharing
(ICS)
>> > >> Service Starts and Runs Unexpectedly After You Upgrade to Small
Business
>> > >> Server 2003
>> > >> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;817876
>> > >>
>> > >> Windows Small Business Server 2003 Getting Started Guide
>> > >>
>> >
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=483B6E22-8ED2-420B-
>> > >> 915E-96D469347FB2&displaylang=en
>> > >>
>> > >> Hope this information helps. If anything is unclear, please feel
free to
>> > >> let me know. I am looking forward to hearing from you!
>> > >>
>> > >> Best regards,
>> > >>
>> > >> Brandy Nee
>> > >>
>> > >> Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
>> > >>
>> > >> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
>> > >> ======================================================
>> > >> This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have
issues
>> > >> regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the
>> > corresponding
>> > >> newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and timely
>> > manner.
>> > >> You can locate the newsgroup here:
>> > >> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx
>> > >>
>> > >> When opening a new thread via the web interface, we recommend you
check
>> > the
>> > >> "Notify me of replies" box to receive e-mail notifications when
there
>> > are
>> > >> any updates in your thread. When responding to posts via your
>> > newsreader,
>> > >> please "Reply to Group" so that others may learn and benefit from
your
>> > >> issue.
>> > >>
>> > >> Microsoft engineers can only focus on one issue per thread.
Although we
>> > >> provide other information for your reference, we recommend you post
>> > >> different incidents in different threads to keep the thread clean.
In
>> > doing
>> > >> so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.
>> > >>
>> > >> For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS directly.
>> > Please
>> > >> check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone
numbers.
>> > >>
>> > >> Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
>> > >> ======================================================
>> > >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> > rights.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> --------------------
>> > >> >Thread-Topic: Internet connection via 2nd network card without ISA
>> > >> >thread-index: AcWdPblUHnGV5ZetT9uOz9hYGHwBxA==
>> > >> >X-WBNR-Posting-Host: 198.54.202.218
>> > >> >From: "=?Utf-8?B?R2liZ28=?=" <Gibgo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> >Subject: Internet connection via 2nd network card without ISA
>> > >> >Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2005 16:54:47 -0700
>> > >> >Lines: 8
>> > >> >Message-ID: <DA7892F0-6CB5-40CC-AE98-2C83D96D0E12@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> >MIME-Version: 1.0
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>> > >> > charset="Utf-8"
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>> > >> >Xref: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl
microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs:142882
>> > >> >X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
>> > >> >
>> > >> >Good day
>> > >> >
>> > >> >I would like to know if its possible to share an internet
connection on
>> > >> >windows server 2003 sbs without ISA on a 2nd network card.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >Active Directory is used.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >Thanks
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> >
>

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