Re: Companyweb DNS Problem with XP Machines

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SuperGumby

You state that when I run the CEICW - I assume you mean the Connect to
Internet Wizard. Where does it ask me for forwarders? It just asks me for DNS
settings - is this what you meant by forwarders?

Also - you state the by running the Change Server IP wizard - this will
configure DHCP correctly. Currently the server DHCP is disabled since we
configured the Router to be the source of DHCP. Will running this wizard
actually enable it again - and if so - how?

Thnak you.

"SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" wrote:

> I would expect DHCP to be installed already, however, if it's not, just
> install it, control panel/ add remove programs/ windows components/
> networking services/ DHCP. You need to disable the DHCP server on the
> router, if SBS sees another DHCP source on the local network it shuts down
> its own DHCP service.
>
> Then run the 'change my server's IP' wizard from SBS console/ internet and
> email. You will probably want to run the wizard twice, once to move to
> another subnet and then again to move back to the subnet the router uses.
> The wiz will configure DHCP correctly, among other things.
>
> Then, ensure the server is only looking to itself for DNS and run the CEICW.
> It will ask for forwarders, you can use the router, your ISP's DNS, or leave
> them blank to use root hints.
>
> In your situation I'd probably shut all client PCs down first while I did
> these changes, then restart the SBS to ensure it comes up normally, test
> internet from the SBS. Assuming all is OK, start up one of the problem
> clients, does the problem still exist? If the problem client has manual IP
> settings set it to fully DHCP.
>
> NOTE: It's only going to take a few minutes for the changes, you're not
> looking at an extended time for operational clients to be off the server.
>
> "Makor" <Makor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:1C456CAF-059A-40A9-AC95-2C94FC903173@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Well I am certainly willing to try.
> > Would you have any detailed instructions on how we activate the DHCP on
> > the
> > server since we did not configure it when we originally installed the SBS
> > sw.
> >
> > "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> There are NO valid reasons for not relying on an AD integrated DNS server
> >> in
> >> any AD. This _IS NOT_ an SBS issue. DNS is the base name resolution
> >> mechanism for AD, an AD which has all its DNS servers down (even if
> >> there's
> >> only one) will suffer dramatic performance problems. An AD which uses DNS
> >> servers which are not AD integrated will suffer severe performance
> >> problems.
> >>
> >> Sure, use an alternate DHCP source, IF it can be configured to only hand
> >> out
> >> AD integrated DNS servers. If it also has an ability to assist
> >> registration
> >> of DHCP clients into the AD DNS it's even more welcome, and rare.
> >>
> >> /out on a limb
> >> You are suffering because name queries to the first DNS server (SBS) are
> >> timing out. Once they time out the client PC switches to using the
> >> secondary
> >> and WILL NOT TRY THE PRIMARY until the secondary times out, but the
> >> secondary is returning responses, 'I dunno nothin about this thing you
> >> want
> >> (companyweb)', so they never switch back (until restart, maybe).
> >>
> >> disable DHCP on the router, enable it on the SBS, DO NOT give the SBS or
> >> client PC's an external DNS, either set forwarders in SBS DNS (done for
> >> you
> >> by CEICW) or use root hints, and all your problems will magically
> >> disappear.
> >>
> >>
> >> "Makor" <Makor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> news:DE0D7128-5497-4B83-9E84-24E946C78393@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > As I and Russ stated previously - there are valid reasons for NOT
> >> > relying
> >> > on
> >> > the DHCP from the SBS server. In fact I have installs that are
> >> > configured
> >> > in
> >> > this fashion - and they work well.
> >> >
> >> > Maybe you could help me understand why the workstation cannot ping the
> >> > SBS
> >> > server and therefore cannot access the companyweb?
> >> >
> >> > Mark
> >> >
> >> > "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> disable DHCP on the router, enable it on the SBS, DO NOT give the SBS
> >> >> or
> >> >> client PC's an external DNS, either set forwarders in SBS DNS (done
> >> >> for
> >> >> you
> >> >> by CEICW) or use root hints, and all your problems will magically
> >> >> disappear.
> >> >>
> >> >> "Makor" <Makor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> >> news:8F645C8D-E2A7-4748-9D88-842D32D0AD67@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> > Marina
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Sorry for the delay:
> >> >> > 1. Here is the ipconfig for the server:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Windows IP Configuration
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : berg1
> >> >> > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Bergbag.local
> >> >> > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
> >> >> > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> >> >> > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> >> >> > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : Bergbag.local
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Ethernet adapter Server Local Area Connection:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> >> >> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Network
> >> >> > Connection
> >> >> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-C0-9F-18-C9-25
> >> >> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> >> >> > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.2
> >> >> > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> >> >> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
> >> >> > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.2
> >> >> > Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.2
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 2. Here is the ipconfig for the workstation:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Windows IP Configuration
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : BERT2005
> >> >> > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
> >> >> > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
> >> >> > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> >> >> > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> >> >> > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : bergbag
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : bergbag
> >> >> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100
> >> >> > Integrated
> >> >> > Cont
> >> >> > roller
> >> >> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-08-74-BD-C5-B6
> >> >> > Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
> >> >> > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> >> >> > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.104
> >> >> > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> >> >> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
> >> >> > DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
> >> >> > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.2
> >> >> > 209.134.134.135
> >> >> > Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, June 30, 2005
> >> >> > 8:37:08
> >> >> > PM
> >> >> > Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Friday, July 01, 2005
> >> >> > 8:37:08
> >> >> > PM
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Marina Roos [SBS-MVP]" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Please post the ipconfig/all from the server and one from a client.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Regards,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Marina Roos
> >> >> >> Microsoft SBS-MVP
> >> >> >> One of the Magical M&M's
> >> >> >> www.smallbizserver.net
> >> >> >> Take part in SBS forum:
> >> >> >> http://www.smallbizserver.net/Default.aspx?tabid=53
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Makor" <Makor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> schreef in bericht
> >> >> >> news:68CF6ECF-6A5D-4755-A115-718FF696B766@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> >> > We would appreciate any support from anyone who can help.
> >> >> >> > Thanks
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > "Makor" wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > > We have just completed new install of SBS 2003. We have used
> >> >> >> > > DHCP
> >> >> >> > > from
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> > > router instead of the SBS Server for various reasons. Router
> >> >> >> > > has
> >> >> >> > > been
> >> >> >> > > configured with the primary DNS to be the SBS server -
> >> >> >> > > 192.168.2.2.
> >> >> >> Secondary
> >> >> >> > > is external DNS.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > All workstations are XP. All are DHCP setup so they get DNS
> >> >> >> > > settings
> >> >> >> from
> >> >> >> > > the router in the following order:
> >> >> >> > > DNS1: 192.168.2.2
> >> >> >> > > DNS 2: External DNS.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > The problem we have is that NONE of the XP machines can ping
> >> >> >> > > companyweb?
> >> >> >> > > Since they cannot ping it they also cannot open it in a
> >> >> >> > > browser!
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > Please assist - we rely heavily on companyweb for data
> >> >> >> > > applications.
> >> >> >> > > Thank you.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
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