Re: Windows SBS 2003 from ebay?

The only way I'm legal in Selling it is Installed on a system (OEM) and I
provide support.
(I can Assist in a sale of the software alone *Retail but not sell it.)
The people who sell an OEM version with a mouse are in violation of
Microsoft rules.

I looked again at that EBAY thing
The second one is Pure Piracy, He's Selling a Version of the 90 Trial of
the software.
(Which is Free btw) then he's selling a HACK to supposedly make everything
is ok!
And he has the #@$ to say it's legal.. BS

If you notice he's even had PayPal Cancel his account because of his shady
activity...
Stick with Reputable Places you will be much happier.

--
Russ Grover
Small Business IT Support
Portland\Beaverton OR USA
Email: Sales at SmallBusinessITSupport.com
Website: www.SmallBusinessITSupport.com


"Leslie Isaacs" <leslie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:ORan1xIeFHA.4016@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Hello Russ
>
> Many thanks for your response.
>
> I take it from what you say that it is not legal to simply buy software
> (say
> from microsoft), then decide that you don't want it and so decide to sell
> it
> on. If this is the case, that's a good enough explanation for me! I must
> say
> I am surprised though: I would have thought that as long as one licence is
> only used by one person/machine, that would be OK.
>
> I should add that I have no intention of using illegal software - hence my
> desire to be certain what's legal and what's not.
>
> Thanks again.
> Les
>
> --
> Many thanks
> PayeDoc
> "Russ Grover" <russ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:u4VGv0GeFHA.3836@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> There are Many Steps in becoming an Authorised Seller.
>>
>> If you NEED TO KNOW EXACTLY Ask Microsoft..
>> Call (800) 426-9400 (toll-free in the United States) or (877) 568-2495
>> (toll-free in Canada).
>>
>> If you want to know How to validate your copy. (Make sure it's
>> authentic.)
>> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/howtotell/ww/windows/default.mspx
>>
>> Microsoft Authorized resellers list
>>
> http://www.microsoft.com/products/info/render.aspx?view=22&type=mnp&content=22/licensing
>>
>> If you are a Reseller you have access to about the lowest price you can
> get.
>> I use a Reseller www.asipartner.com And Believe it or not I've got a
> lower
>> price from even COMPUSA.com
>>
>> Buying from a Reputable Dealer, not only Insures quality of the product,
> and
>> support.
>> but that in Future updates you will be able to get them.
>>
>> Starting I think August, People with Hacked or Non Authentic versions of
> XP
>> will no longer be able to get updates.
>> using http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com
>>
>> Ethics also plays a big part of this. If you have no problem stealing and
>> selling stolen goods, then anyone can sell Microsoft software.
>> I don't recommend it however.
>>
>> Every week I get a list (I'm an OEM Builder) of Companies that are being
>> sued by Microsoft for Violation of Reseller rules.
>> (Either they are breaking the rules like selling a Mouse with Windows
> Server
>> Software, or Just plan selling the same Key over and over again.)
>>
>> Now when they break the rules, The Lawyers Sequester all the names of the
>> clients that they sold that software too.
>> Remember anything Stolen get's confiscated by the Police and You loose
>> everything....
>> They could Knock on your door and legally grab your server out from under
>> you...
>> In fact they can arrest you for knowingly buying stolen goods.
>>
>> If it's too good to be true, it probably is.
>> So Do you feel Lucky?
>>
>> Also Any Place that Requires you to DOWNLOAD the Software is NEVER
> Legit...
>>
>> --
>> Russ Grover
>> Small Business IT Support
>> Portland\Beaverton OR USA
>> Email: Sales at SmallBusinessITSupport.com
>> Website: www.SmallBusinessITSupport.com
>>
>>
>> "Jack Isaacs" <jack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:%23lheWmEeFHA.2732@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Hello All
>> >
>> > OK folks, many thanks for your replies. You are all obviously
> experienced
>> > and knowledgeable on this issue, and I am not. Therefore I am prepared
> to
>> > accept that you are all correct in saying what you have said - which
>> > amounts
>> > to "it's not legal, don't touch it with a barge pole".
>> > HOWEVER
>> > I need to understand why. Being a bit of an obsessive/pedantic/cynical
>> > type,
>> > I NEED TO KNOW exactly what it is that make these 'offers' illegal. So
> far
>> > your rationale has been restricted to intuition and common sense ("if
> it's
>> > that cheap it must be illegal"), but for me that's not enough: I need
>> > to
>> > know what rule/term of the licence agreement/law I would be breaking if
> a
>> > bought and used software from these guys. Some of you have conceded
>> > that
>> > some software sold on ebay is probably legal: how do I differentiate
>> > between
>> > the legal and the illegal?
>> >
>> > Let me put it another way: under what circumstances is it legal for
>> > someone
>> > (other than microsoft and other official suppliers) to sell this kind
>> > of
>> > software?
>> >
>> > Hope you all don't mind my asking!
>> >
>> > Thanks again
>> > Les
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]" <sbradcpa@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > wrote in message news:%23f0E3oCeFHA.1288@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> This screams a Not for Resale version of SBS..
>> >>
>> >> 1. It's too cheap
>> >> 2. No box? Excuse me the only way I have SBS without a box is
>> >> officially from Microsoft licensing not ebay
>> >> 3. Flat out... it's way too cheap to be legal
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Leslie Isaacs wrote:
>> >> > Hello All
>> >> >
>> >> > All of you are saying the same thing, so I suppose you must be
>> >> > right,
>> > but I
>> >> > am very curious about why all these offers are necessarily illegal:
> if
>> >> > someone buys the product but does not use/activate it, surely they
> can
>> > sell
>> >> > it on legally?
>> >> >
>> >> > When one of the sellers says:
>> >> > "This is an auction for Microsoft Windows Small Business Server 2003
>> >> > Standard Edition, incorporating 1 Server Licence and 5 Client Access
>> >> > Licences (CALs). It is the full software (not an upgrade) and comes
> as
>> >> > a
>> > set
>> >> > of holographic Microsoft CD ROMs with Product Key Codes. It has
>> >> > never
>> > been
>> >> > installed or registered/activated.
>> >> > Please note: This product does not include a box, manual or other
>> > printed
>> >> > material. It is only the CD ROMs and Product Key Code. "
>> >> >
>> >> > ... is he lying, or what?
>> >> >
>> >> > Same goes for the one saying simply:
>> >> > "Microsoft Windows Small Business Server 2003 5 Cals (license
>> >> > pack)
>> > New
>> >> > and un-opened"
>> >> >
>> >> > Also, one seller give the following information:
>> >> > "In Per User or Per Device mode, a separate CAL is required for each
>> > user or
>> >> > device that accesses or uses the Microsoft Small Business Server
>> >> > 2003
>> >> > software on any server. You may reassign a Windows CAL from one
> device
>> > to
>> >> > another device, or from one user to another user, provided the
>> > reassignment
>> >> > is made either (a) permanently away from the one device or user or
> (b)
>> >> > temporarily to accommodate the use of the Windows CAL either by a
>> >> > loaner
>> >> > device, while a permanent device is out of service, or by a
>> >> > temporary
>> >> > worker, while a regular employee is absent. By having two types of
>> > Windows
>> >> > CALs, you are able to use the model that makes sense for your
>> > organization.
>> >> > For example, purchasing a Windows User CAL might make more sense if
>> >> > your
>> >> > company has a need for employees to have roaming access using
> multiple
>> >> > devices. Windows Device CALs may make more sense if your company has
>> >> > multiple-shift workers who share devices."
>> >> >
>> >> > This sounds reassuring to me - or am I being naive?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks for any advice.
>> >> > Leslie Isaacs
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "DaveN" <DaveN.1r334x@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> > news:DaveN.1r334x@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >
>> >> >>they would be illegal.... that TweakNT thing is illegal too
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>--
>> >> >>DaveN
>> >>
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>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
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>> >
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