Re: Space Constrained HD - SBS SP1 size concern

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I understand the decision to use this software is not guaranteed nor implied
this way. Looking at Disk Management I'm concerned that all the drives
appear as seperate disks and not partitions. Of course this is through the
PERC4di controller. I am wondering if this is going to be an insurmountable
obstacle or if the sofware accomodates disk management like this. Perhaps
Paragon can be of some help. Do you have any experience with SCSI/RAID
controllers in such situations? Is this doable? Thank you very much again.

"Frank McCallister SBS MVP" wrote:

> Obviously I can't accept liability for your use of Paragon but the price is
> right and it has worked for me and at least one other MVP I have talked to.
> One big advantage of Paragon is it works within Windows and doesn't need a
> DOS boot disk.
>
> --
> Frank McCallister SBS MVP
> COMPUMAC
> "Dale Networkguy" <DaleNetworkguy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
> message news:4F731BE7-0173-4E2C-8865-14A1775DCBE1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > The whole hard drive (mirrored SCSI set on a Dell PERC 4di controller) is
> > 73
> > GB and is presently sliced into three "Virtual Disks" VD 0,0 is C: system
> > 6.82 GB and VD 0,1 S: Swap is 4.87 GB. Swap is merely a destination for
> > the
> > swap file and spooler and can be either consolidated into C: or onto the
> > larger disk (D: data 56.51). The math of adding those "disks" or
> > partitions
> > up = 68.2 I am not sure why there is a size discrepency between the
> > calculated usage and the advertised disk size of 73 GB. Dell didn't
> > preconfigure the OS on this server so there shouldn't be any hidden
> > partitions. Also, I am not sure if it matters whether to "merge" C: and
> > S:
> > or else to delete S: and then "extend" C: to the freed up space. In the
> > end
> > its the same thing. All partitions (or disks) are NTFS and on a "basic
> > disk". Using the term "disk" in different contexts is confusing and I
> > hope
> > I've conveyed this somewhat clearly.
> >
> > I know Partition Magic doesn't cover Server 2003 and that is unfortunate
> > as
> > I own a copy. I am a little sceptical using unknown software and
> > appreciate
> > hearing from others whom crossed this strange situation themselves.
> >
> > Thank you for your timely responses.
> > Dale
> >
> > "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> you seem to be mixing concepts. You suggest the system HDD is 6.8 GB but
> >> then suggest there is adjacent space, do you mean the _partition_ is 6.8G
> >> and there is adjacent space on the drive/hdd? (I think you do)
> >>
> >> MS would suggest backup and restore to adjust partition sizes. The lovely
> >> M&M's have some notes which may be helpful at
> >> http://www.smallbizserver.net/Default.aspx?tabid=144
> >>
> >> I would not and have not attempted to increase a system partition using
> >> Windows native 'partition extending'. I believe it's possible but it's
> >> just
> >> not something I'd do.
> >>
> >> Another alternative takes you outside official MS support criteria, use a
> >> partition copy/adjustment program (Ghost, Partition Magic (Server Magic),
> >> Volume Manager, etc...) to adjust the size of the existing partitions. If
> >> forced into this situation I would probably take this option. Though MS
> >> reserve the right to refuse support of systems with partitions adjusted
> >> in
> >> this manner I have never been asked by a support engineer if this has
> >> been
> >> done, not that I contact them much anyway.
> >>
> >> "Dale Networkguy" <DaleNetworkguy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
> >> message news:9ED18FFE-907B-449A-9A52-995348BFAB58@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > I've got an undersized system partition on an SBS 2k3 Prem server that
> >> > I
> >> > inherited from a consultant who set it up. The system HD is 6.8 GB
> >> > with a
> >> > scant 1.1 GB left free. Will it fit? Can the system partition be
> >> > expanded
> >> > to use adjacent free disk space?
> >> >
> >> > The system is fully updated and even has the Exchange SP1, SharePoint
> >> > SP2,
> >> > XP Client deployment files, and SQL 2000 SP4 updates installed. I
> >> > really!!!!
> >> > want to install the remaining Win2k3 SP1 and SBS 2k3 SP1 updates but am
> >> > very
> >> > fearful of them not having enough room.
> >> >
> >> > On a test of space used on a virtual SBS standard server I had from a
> >> > class
> >> > the deployment resulted in approximately 1.1 GB used for W2k3 SP1 and
> >> > 0.3
> >> > GB
> >> > used for the SBS SP1 portion.
> >> >
> >> > After all those hours installing the Prem. SP CD's I then realized my
> >> > lab
> >> > experiment wasn't sufficiently controlled for an "apples to apples"
> >> > comparison. The test server was not updated at all prior to these
> >> > updates.
> >> > I surmise that, as in the case of large service packs, many of the
> >> > included
> >> > updates would be redundant and therefore wouldn't be installed nor take
> >> > up
> >> > any space. So if that is true than my scant 1.1 GB might just be
> >> > enough.
> >> > What do you think? How much space needed?
> >> >
> >> > I have tried moving everything off the system drive possible including
> >> > the
> >> > print server spool and the swap file. I do have an adjacent 5 GB
> >> > partition
> >> > that could be deleted and its space could be made available for
> >> > merging.
> >> > The
> >> > limitation to this concept is that I don't think you can expand the
> >> > system
> >> > partition. So going dynamic disk doesn't seem viable. Do you have any
> >> > ideas? (I've already thought of some really bad things to do to the
> >> > consultant :) )
> >> >
> >> > TIA
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
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