Re: Server Shuts Down - HELP

Russ, Great minds think alike.

Already here today...electricaian here running seperate line to unit.

Well, this whole disaster has had a small impact on cash these days :(, but
I scraped together enough to buy a/c. I wouldn't want my little SOB getting
warm and going down, waite a sec, thats whats it's doing now .....

Thank for checking up on me Russ.

Give up on update in a few ....


--
Sal Candela


"Russ Grover" wrote:

> Do you guys have enough money to buy a Room Air Conditioner? ~$500 us
> dollars.
> (This is a Stand Alone Unit no window.)
>
> Russ
>
> --
> Russ Grover
> Small Business IT Support
> 16086 SW Melinda St.
> Beaverton OR 97007-6303 USA
> Email: Sales at SmallBusinessITSupport.com
> Website: www.SmallBusinessITSupport.com
>
>
> "Sal Candela" <SalCandela@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:ABCC28FE-F57A-4610-951C-1D067A730332@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > SORRY GUYS - SERVER Down this morning.
> >
> > Server was up just short of 4 days. Went down at 6:55 am.
> >
> > No changes to BIOS setting (still disabled). I did install temp gauge
> > yesterday. The room is warm (max temp went to 90' F) this was the first
> > time
> > I closed server room door in days, I guess that is why room above 70 75
> > that
> > is should be. With the temp protection disabled, I'm assuming the the
> > server
> > would have just kept running ...
> >
> > I will keep the door open at night until I figure out want to do there.
> >
> > I'm going to reinstall the BIOS this evening, and I working on getting the
> > lastest firmware from Compaq. I can download the ISO file, and I can open
> > it,
> > but can't get the file to write to a CD.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sal Candela
> >
> >
> > "Sal Candela" wrote:
> >
> >> James,
> >>
> >> It lloks like you were right. The server up now three days.
> >>
> >> When I was replacing all those parts, I was blowing out the server. I now
> >> have more knowledge on the "internals" of my server than I EVER wanted to
> >> know.
> >>
> >> I just spoke to a client of mine that is the IT person for the New York
> >> Times. He had the same EXACT problem and he received NO information in
> >> the
> >> Compaq event log. It turned out to be a bad temp sensor.
> >>
> >> I reported back to Compaq yesterday - they again told me that the
> >> monitoring
> >> software and/or the BIOS would sent something to the LOG or IMD.
> >>
> >> Well so much for them!!
> >>
> >> Spec of my system:
> >>
> >> Compaq Proliant 6000, twin XEON processors, 500, 2 MB. Ram is currenlty
> >> 3.8
> >> GB.
> >>
> >> James, thanks again for all your input and help!!!!!
> >>
> >> --
> >> Sal Candela
> >>
> >>
> >> "James B" wrote:
> >>
> >> > As I said a huge number of post ago it sounded like a thermal issue.
> >> > What
> >> > gets me is why the Compaq monitoring software did not log an event or
> >> > at
> >> > least a temp spike prior to a full crash. It should never just crash
> >> > because
> >> > of thermal protection, the whole idea behind thermal protection is to
> >> > stop
> >> > it from crashing by backing off the CPU cycles so they can cool down.
> >> >
> >> > I'd give that cage a once over and make sure all fans are working, no
> >> > major
> >> > dust bunnies blocking airflow, no cables in the way of airflow and
> >> > heatsinks
> >> > fully contacting CPU's. BIOS update the board and make sure you've got
> >> > the
> >> > latest monitoring software from Compaq. Also see if you can monitor the
> >> > temps and see what the spikes are now that you can keep it up as I'm
> >> > very
> >> > interested in knowing why it crashed and didn't just back itself off.
> >> >
> >> > Also please post or repost the specs on the system as to type of CPU's
> >> > and
> >> > server model.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Sal Candela" <SalCandela@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> > news:572D3A6A-7972-4C37-B8B3-913588D487A7@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > Russ, Just wanted to give yao and everybody who helped out a status
> >> > report.
> >> > >
> >> > > Still up and running! That just over two days now!
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Sal Candela
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > "Sal Candela" wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Russ,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Yup, up since Sunday at 7:00 am EST, and still going. I need to
> >> > > > give it
> >> > a
> >> > > > few days, but recently the server wouldn't stay up for more than
> >> > > > day to
> >> > day
> >> > > > and a half. If all is still well by this weekend, I will replace
> >> > > > the
> >> > temp
> >> > > > sensors (if replacable).
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --
> >> > > > Sal Candela
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > "Russ Grover" wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > Ok Status?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > --
> >> > > > > Russ Grover
> >> > > > > Small Business IT Support
> >> > > > > 16086 SW Melinda St.
> >> > > > > Beaverton OR 97007-6303 USA
> >> > > > > Email: Sales at SmallBusinessITSupport.com
> >> > > > > Website: www.SmallBusinessITSupport.com
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > "Sal Candela" <SalCandela@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
> >> > > > > message
> >> > > > > news:EC8F4773-3852-43EE-BD69-412D9D3ECD53@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > > Russ,
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > First things first - again thanks for your help and support.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Second - Damn thing is still going!!
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Third - I really didn't have to go into BIOS to disable the
> >> > > > > > setting.
> >> > > > > > Compaq
> >> > > > > > has monitoring software thats runs and from there I just clink
> >> > > > > > on
> >> > disable
> >> > > > > > and
> >> > > > > > the setting was changed. I truely didn't want to reboot that
> >> > > > > > damn
> >> > thing
> >> > > > > > one
> >> > > > > > more time. Stupid but true.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > But the setting that were set are
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > I/O boards:49' C
> >> > > > > > CPU: 39' C
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > The current temp is 32'C
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > If the server stays up for more than a week, I will replace the
> >> > sensors.
> >> > > > > > If
> >> > > > > > it goes down again I will check to see what (if any) level it
> >> > > > > > is set
> >> > at.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > I will also try the leving it in DOS mode and running the CPU
> >> > > > > > test
> >> > all
> >> > > > > > night
> >> > > > > > long to see what is happening.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Again thanks for checking up again.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Ciao
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > --
> >> > > > > > Sal Candela
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > "Russ Grover" wrote:
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >> There's Usually like Levels 3 different temps
> >> > > > > >> Do you remember what Level it was at?
> >> > > > > >> Russ
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >> --
> >> > > > > >> Russ Grover
> >> > > > > >> Small Business IT Support
> >> > > > > >> 16086 SW Melinda St.
> >> > > > > >> Beaverton OR 97007-6303 USA
> >> > > > > >> Email: Sales at SmallBusinessITSupport.com
> >> > > > > >> Website: www.SmallBusinessITSupport.com
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >> "Sal Candela" <SalCandela@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
> >> > message
> >> > > > > >> news:BCA8A463-ED0D-49F2-A487-0A20A4158C29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > >> > WOW! I want to thank everybody for the support and help.
> >> > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > >> > I diaabled the temp shutdown in BIOS. The server has been up
> >> > since 7:00
> >> > > > > >> > am
> >> > > > > >> > EST. Considering recent history, this is a marathon.
> >> > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > >> > I will keep you all updated in the next few days.
> >> > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > >> > Thanks you all
> >> > > > > >> > --
> >> > > > > >> > Sal Candela
> >> > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > >> > "Gary Karasik" wrote:
> >> > > > > >> >
> >> > > > > >> >> Sal,
> >> > > > > >> >>
> >> > > > > >> >> After re-reading all the posts here, I don't have a clear
> >> > > > > >> >> idea
> >> > if the
> >> > > > > >> >> server
> >> > > > > >> >> is shutting down or shutting off, by which I'm asking, Is
> >> > > > > >> >> it
> >> > doing an
> >> > > > > >> >> orderly shutdown as though you told it to manually or is it
> >> > > > > >> >> just
> >> > > > > >> >> turning
> >> > > > > >> >> off
> >> > > > > >> >> instantly as though it had lost power? The lack of event
> >> > > > > >> >> log
> >> > > > > >> >> errors--usually
> >> > > > > >> >> when the shut down is sudden, there's an "unexpected
> >> > > > > >> >> shutdown"
> >> > > > > >> >> event-log
> >> > > > > >> >> entry--suggests that it is an orderly shutdown, in which
> >> > > > > >> >> case
> >> > I'd lean
> >> > > > > >> >> toward software or some hardware-software combination. Did
> >> > > > > >> >> you
> >> > load
> >> > > > > >> >> any
> >> > > > > >> >> UPS-specific shutdown software? If not, have you checked
> >> > > > > >> >> the
> >> > Control
> >> > > > > >> >> Panel's
> >> > > > > >> >> Power Options settings to see if a shutdown is called for?
> >> > > > > >> >> If
> >> > there's
> >> > > > > >> >> some
> >> > > > > >> >> UPS-specific software, uninstall it. If the Power Options
> >> > > > > >> >> are
> >> > > > > >> >> configured,
> >> > > > > >> >> disable that service.
> >> > > > > >> >>
> >> > > > > >> >> GaryK
> >> > > > > >> >>
> >> > > > > >> >> "Sal Candela" <SalCandela@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote
> >> > > > > >> >> in
> >> > message
> >> > > > > >> >> news:AEEB8EC0-A895-4980-86C3-CF3F0977F2A6@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > > > > >> >> > Hello all,
> >> > > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > > >> >> > I'm hoping that someone here might be able to give good
> >> > advice.
> >> > > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > > >> >> > The problem:
> >> > > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > > >> >> > My server justs shuts down. No blue screens, no error
> >> > messages,
> >> > > > > >> >> > nothing
> >> > > > > >> >> > in
> >> > > > > >> >> > the event logs other than telling me that the prevois
> >> > > > > >> >> > shutdown
> >> > was
> >> > > > > >> >> > unexcepted. I never get any error id. It is as if someone
> >> > > > > >> >> > just
> >> > pulls
> >> > > > > >> >> > the
> >> > > > > >> >> > plug
> >> > > > > >> >> > out of the wall. I server maybe up for days (2 max so
> >> > > > > >> >> > far) or
> >> > only a
> >> > > > > >> >> > few
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