RE: Printing from Win9x clients stops

Hello Dave,

Thank you for your update.

According to your description, I understand that you have tried my
suggestions, but you received a message "slow network transfers" now. If I
have misunderstood your concern, please don't hesitate to let me know.

First of all, please help me re-confirm whether you can access the shard
printer on the windows 9x workstations.

If the windows 9x clients cannot use the SBS Server shared printer yet, we
will first focus this issue, please help me try to perform the following
steps:

1. Please check whether the shared printer was installed windows 9x
driver. Go to the shared printer Properties on the SBS Server, choose
Sharing and click Additional Drivers, select and install the windows 9x
driver.

2. Please verify that everyone has the permission to print, add the
everyone group to the shared printer security permission.

3. Please verify that after sharing the printer, other clients can see
the printer -- net view \\computername.

4. Please check the domain controller local security settings -- "access
this computer from the network" -- options. Please perform the following
steps:

a. Open Server Management Console, expand Advanced Management ->
Group Policy Management -> DomainName.local -> Group Policy Objects

b. Right-click Default Domain Controllers Policy and select Edit.

c. Open the Computer Configuration\Windows Settings\Security
Settings\Local Policies\User Rights Assignment folder.

d. Locate the Access this computer from the network, and double
click to launch it Properties, then add the following groups:

- Administrators
- Authenticated Users
- Enterprise domain controllers
- Everyone
- IUSR_servername
- IWAM_servername
- Pre-Windows 2000 Compatible Access

5. If the issue persists, what time the issue began to occur? As you
mentioned, when you install aTrust Gateway and Pest Patrol software and
reboot the server, the issue begins to occur. If so, please try to contact
the third-party software vendor and make sure this software does not
interfere with SBS Server. Otherwise, you can try to temporarily uninstall
the software, can the issue be re-produced?


If the windows 9x clients can use the SBS Server shared printer, but you
received a message "slow network transfers" now. To narrow down this issue,
please help me collect the following information:

1. Where did you see the message "slow network transfers"?

2. What are the exact problem symptoms on the problematic workstation?

I appreciate your taking the time to perform the tests, I'm looking forward
to your update. If you have any questions or concerns, please do not
hesitate to let me know. I am always happy to be of further assistance.

Best regards,

Nathan Liu (MSFT)
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>Hello Nathan,
>
>We had applied the SMB signing changes already, this was as a result of
>perceived "slow network transfers" (as per smallbizserver.net).
>However, I re-checked the settings and followed your advice re. gpudate
>/force.
>I then re-started two of the ME machines. No difference.
>I then wrote the lmhosts file and re-started (again two machines) - again,
>no difference.
>Any further suggestions greatly appreciated!
>Dave
>
>"Nathan Liu [MSFT]" wrote:
>
>> Hello Dave,
>>
>> Thank you for your update.
>>
>> Based on my research, since this issue only occurs on all Windows 9x
>> workstations, this should be an SMB signing issue. We should disable the
>> SMB Signing on the SBS server. Please try to perform the following steps:
>>
>> 1. Open Server Management Console, expand Advanced Management ->
Group
>> Policy Management -> DomainName.local.
>>
>> 2. Right-click Default Domain Policy and select Edit.
>>
>> 3. Open the Computer Configuration\Windows Settings\Security
>> Settings\Local Policies\Security Options folder.
>>
>> 4. Locate the Microsoft network server: Digitally sign communications
>> (always) policy setting, and then click Disabled or Do Not Configure.
>>
>> Also do the same steps to disable the SMB signing policy in the Default
>> Domain Controller Policy. After you finish that, please run "gpupdate
>> /force" at the SBS Server.
>> Please also run "gpupdate /force" at the client side or restart it to
>> update the group policy.
>>
>> For detailed information, please refer to the KB article 811497.
>>
>> 811497 Error Message When Windows 95 or Windows NT 4.0 Client Logs On to
>> Windows Server 2003 Domain
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=811497
>>
>> Otherwise, if the issue persists, please try to perform the resolution
in
>> the KB article 180094.
>>
>> 180094 How to write an Lmhosts file for domain validation and other name
>> resolution issues
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/180094/en-us
>>
>> I'm looking forward to your update. If you have any questions or
concerns,
>> please do not hesitate to let me know. I am always happy to be of
further
>> assistance.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Nathan Liu (MSFT)
>> Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
>> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
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>>
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>> >Thread-Topic: Printing from Win9x clients stops
>> >thread-index: AcVmyAO0vMDq1/BgRtqC5o6kEJEXyg==
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>> >References: <451C05BA-43DA-436F-A3CC-1A7485336799@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> <gAkUl#PZFHA.2184@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >Subject: RE: Printing from Win9x clients stops
>> >Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 09:36:09 -0700
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>> >
>> >Hello Nathan, herewith the results:
>> >
>> >> 1. Please open the system Event Viewer on the problematic clients,
and
>> >> check whether there are any error messages about this issue, then
paste
>> the
>> >> full context in your reply post.
>> >
>> >I don't know where to look in Windows Me, I can find no relevent log
files
>> >either.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> 2. Please disable the eTrust Gateway and Pest Patrol program on the
SBS
>> >> Server, then try again. Please check whether the issue can be
>> re-produced.
>> >> If the issue is resolved, please contact your third-party software
>> vendor
>> >> and make sure this software does not interfere with SBS Server.
>> >
>> >Gateway removed, Pestpatrol disabled
>> >
>> >>
>> >> 3. If you installed any third-party Anti-Virus software on the
>> problematic
>> >> clients, please disable it and try again. Please also check whether
the
>> >> issue can be re-produced. If the issue is resolved, please contact
your
>> >> third-party software vendor and make sure this software does not
>> interfere
>> >> with SBS Server.
>> >
>> >Local virus scanner disabled
>> >
>> >>
>> >> 4. If the issue persists, please manually re-join the windows 9x
clients
>> >> into the SBS Server Domain, then try again. Please check whether the
>> issue
>> >> can be re-produced.
>> >
>> >Two separate machines removed from the Domain and re-joined
>> >
>> >>
>> >> 5. Otherwise, please try to perform the following testing steps:
>> >>
>> >> a. Verify basic network connectivity.
>> >>
>> >> Check user rights, protocols, share names, and so on to determine
if
>> >> you can see the server. Copy files to a share on the print server
using
>> >> Windows Explorer. If you cannot access the server, you may not be
able
>> to
>> >> access the printer.
>> >
>> >All other networked services, files sharing, mail, IE etc OK, only
>> printing
>> >affected.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> b. Create a local printer and redirect the port to the network
>> server.
>> >>
>> >> Create a local printer and in the Ports section, create a new
port.
>> >> Click Local, and type the server and printer name for the printer
(use
>> the
>> >> \\servername\printername syntax). Use this port for the local
printer.
>> This
>> >> determines whether there is a problem with the copying of files from
the
>> >> server to the workstation that occurs when you use a Connect To Setup
or
>> >> click Network Printer in the Add Printer Wizard.
>> >
>> >Done all the above, have also removed and re-installed several
networked
>> >printers from client machines and added networked printers previously
not
>> >install to some.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> c. Printing from an MS-DOS-based program.
>> >>
>> >> Make sure that the NET USE command has been run to map the LPT
port
>> to
>> >> the network share. If it has, delete it and re-map the port. If it
then
>> >> works, there may be an issue with ghosted connections. A command may
>> need
>> >> to be run in the login script to remap the port each time you log on.
>> >
>> >Have deleted and re-mapped ports
>> >
>> >>
>> >> If it is still not printing, try typing "dir > LPT<x>" (without
>> >> quotation marks) where <x> is the number of the port being mapped. If
it
>> >> still does not print, double-check the networking.
>> >
>> >"Access denied" - do we have a key here? As above all other network
>> >function are fine.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> d. If you are using LPR or printing to a JetDirect card using
the
>> >> TCP/IP protocol, try these items:
>> >>
>> >> - Ping the IP address. If it fails, check the network connectivity
>> and
>> >> verify IP addresses.
>> >>
>> >> - Create an LPR port to the printer and then create a local
printer
>> >> connected to that port. This is the recommended way to connect to a
>> >> JetDirect printer. Sharing this printer on the network allows the
>> computer
>> >> to act as a print queue for the JetDirect printer.
>> >
>> >All above is N/A, we are looking at 2xHP5000n, 2x HP750C A0 plotters,
>> >1xCanon 5000i mutlifunction, all installed via TCP/IP ports on the
server
>> and
>> >this system has worked flawlessly for over a year to date.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> e. Determine whether you can print locally.
>> >>
>> >> If possible, try printing locally. This determines whether it is a
>> >> network or computer-specific problem.
>> >
>> >No trouble printing locally, and I re-iterate we have 11 XP machines
>> working
>> >perfectly and 12 ME machines which all failed at the same time, it does
>> not
>> >seem to be a machine local problem.
>> >
>> >Do we have a situation where somehow ME machines are denied access
>> somewhere
>> >in Group Policy?
>> >
>> >Looking forward to any other suggestions you may have!
>> >And thanks very much for your time so far - Dave
>> >
>> >>
>> >> To get additional detailed information, you may refer to the
RESOLUTION
>> of
>> >> the following KB article:
>> >>
>> >> 314073 How to troubleshoot network printing problems in Windows XP
>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314073/en-us
>> >>
>> >> 163551 Troubleshooting Printing Problems in Windows
>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=163551
>> >>
>> >> I'm looking forward to your update. If you have any questions or
>> concerns,
>> >> please do not hesitate to let me know. I am always happy to be of
>> further
>> >> assistance.
>> >>
>> >> Best regards,
>> >>
>> >> Nathan Liu (MSFT)
>> >> Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
>> >> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
>> >> =====================================================
>> >> When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader
so
>> >> that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
>> >> =====================================================
>> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights.
>> >>
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>> >> >Thread-Topic: Printing from Win9x clients stops
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>> >> >From: "=?Utf-8?B?RGF2ZVI=?=" <DaveR@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >Subject: Printing from Win9x clients stops
>> >> >Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 01:04:05 -0700
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>> >> >
>> >> >Following a server reboot (to install aTrust Gateway and Pest
Patrol)
>> all
>> >> >win9x clients are seeing:
>> >> >There was an error writing to \\server\printer\ (printer):
>> >> >There was a problem printing to the printer due to an unknown system
>> error.
>> >> >Restart Windows, and then try printing again.
>> >> >This printer will be set to offline.
>> >> >To save your print job in the local printer queue, click OK.
>> >> >
>> >> >All XP clients (11) are working perfectly! All win9x (12) show the
>> same.
>> >> >Printer drivers have been re-loaded on a client and one of the
printers
>> >> has
>> >> >been re-installed on the server but to no avail.
>> >> >Any ideas please.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>

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