Re: Setting up Win2k3 on existing infrastructure

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i stumbled into this configuration in an effort to migrate from a nt4 fixed
ip environment to a sbs2003 dhcp one.
a simply work around for you to consider is this... install a secondary nic
in the sbs2003 machine and have only that nic connect to the existing
network for the purpose of connecting to the internet router. then connect
the primary nic to a separate hub/switch that you also connect the client
workstations for the sbs2003 machine. on the wan side of the sbs2003
machine (actually you present lan with its internet router) you can assign
the sbs2003 secondary nic a fixed ip address. on the lan of the sbs2003
machine you can use the sbs2003 machine as the dhcp server for the clients.
hope this helps.

"Declan Barry" <DeclanBarry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:FB636B1D-364F-41C2-9628-37CC79BA9664@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Hmm!!
>
> That mucks things up a little for me. I don't really want to reconfigure
> the NT4 network as it is working fine. The 2k3 SBS server is really only
> for
> me to play around with to understand how it works in a small environment.
>
> I wanted to separate both networks but still have access to the internet
> via
> the router. I'm not very familiar with all the setups hence my reason for
> a
> test server without hopefully interfering with current networks.
>
> Ahh well, looks like I'm snookered before I even start!
>
> There is a slight *** of light still here though. As it is coming near
> the end of school (Summer time), I could set up and configure the Win2k3
> server and workstations using there own switch (no connection to existing
> networks) and plug the 2k3 server directly into the Router for testing
> purposes.
>
> I assume I would use the 2 NIC route with ISA installed.
>
> One query. The router is preset with an address of 10.x.x.x and a subnet
> of
> 255.255.248.0 (its a managed router by our local education authority and I
> have no control of it). Is it possible for me to use the 192.168.x.x range
> of
> addresses and subnet on the local NIC side and the router address and
> subnet
> on the external NIC or do I have to keep both NIC's in the same address
> range
> as the router.
>
> Sorry if these questions sound stupid but I'm trying to learn a bit more
> about networks. My place of work can't seem to justify sending me on
> relevant
> courses as our main school network is a managed service. Our existing ICT
> Departmemt network will soon be decomissioned and we will be moving fully
> over to the managed service. All I will do then is log calls to support
> and
> wait. I don't want to stay static so I am plodding ahead myself with
> sample
> scenarios.
>
> Regards
>
> Declan
>
> Regards
>
> Declan
>
>
> "sbs2003user" wrote:
>
>> huh?? please explain. i have a nt4 primary domain controller and a
>> sbs2003
>> primary domain controller running on the same network with all xp pro
>> clients. the clients are only joined to one domain or the other of
>> course.
>> dhcp is all coming out of the sbs2003 machine. when i had the internet
>> router doing dhcp the logins to the sbs2003 machine by its members were
>> very
>> slow (300 seconds or so). i worked around that by adding the server ip
>> address to the dns information provided by the router but i still had
>> some
>> odd behavior. now that the internet router is connected to the secondary
>> nic in the sbs2003 machine and the sbs2003 machine is the dhcp server all
>> my
>> dns issues are gone... and the nt4 server users are oblivious to their
>> new
>> path to connecting to the internet.
>>
>> <wedor> wrote in message news:O3EEK4rZFHA.1088@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Never mind all of that, the SBS MUST be the PDC or none of this will
>> > matter.
>> >
>> > "sbs2003user" <sbs2002user@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> > news:DWjne.17936$Ib.14879@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>i am not expert but i can tell you this... you can not have two dhcp
>> >>servers on the same network. sbs2003 will shut down its dhcp server
>> >>before it even starts if it detects another dhcp server on the network.
>> >>also, sbs2003 is particular about dns and without it being the dhcp
>> >>server
>> >>you will likely experience slow logins and other odd behavior. i
>> >>suggest
>> >>that you do the following configuration to simplify things... disable
>> >>the
>> >>dhcp server on your nt4 server machine. enable the dhcp server on the
>> >>sbs2003 machine and be sure to either reserve a range of numbers for
>> >>fixed
>> >>address devices like your old nt server. if you have a single nic
>> >>sbs2003
>> >>server then use the dmz port on your internet router and bind it to the
>> >>sbs2003 machine and let the sbs2003 machine act as the router for the
>> >>network. if you have a dual nic sbs2003 machine then physically
>> >>connect
>> >>the internet router to the 2nd network card. then, with either one or
>> >>two
>> >>nics, run the internet connection wizard. hope this helps.
>> >>
>> >> "Declan Barry" <Declan Barry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
>> >> message
>> >> news:8EFB53DB-37D7-4183-BFC0-0DD55074CEEF@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>> Hi..
>> >>>
>> >>> We currently have an NT4 network set up on our school infrastructure
>> >>> for
>> >>> pupil use running Win 98 SE workstations.
>> >>>
>> >>> I would like to set up a separate Win 2k3 SBS server to serve 5
>> >>> workstations
>> >>> on the same cable infrastructure so that I can experiment and play
>> >>> with
>> >>> Win2k3.
>> >>>
>> >>> Our existing NT4 PDC server acts as the DHCP server for all the Win98
>> >>> SE
>> >>> workstations. Is it possible to have 2 DHCP servers on the same
>> >>> infrastructure. i.e. The NT One that serves the Win98SE workstations
>> >>> and
>> >>> the
>> >>> Win2k3 DHCP server that will serve the Win2k/XP workstations or
>> >>> should I
>> >>> just
>> >>> use one?
>> >>>
>> >>> We have access to the Internet via a router so what would be the best
>> >>> way of
>> >>> separating the two networks from each other but at the same time,
>> >>> allowing
>> >>> the new Win2k3 network to access the Internet via the router which is
>> >>> currently plugged into the infrastructure and access via a gateway ip
>> >>> address?
>> >>>
>> >>> I hope this makes sense. I'm not up to speed with Windows setups as
>> >>> I
>> >>> am
>> >>> learning/reading as I go along.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>


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