Re: SBS two adapter setup with Netopia Router. Help Save my weeked

First, I ran the change server IP and and I ran the CEICW as instructed.

Second Again thanks for your help, even the two by four. By way of
explanation: When you said use DCHP to set IPs I did not realize that the
wizard would set that up automatically. I had some advice over the phone
from someone who does not use the wizards. Too many cooks etc. This started
as a simple put in another network card. Since this has become more involved
I would be more than happy to do this on a fee basis. I am not sure what the
etiquette is on this.

After your email I reran Change Server IP and CEICW
The CEICW failed saying it could not set scope there was another DCHP server
on the network. I repeated the Change server IP and CEICW, same stop. I
looked at the DCHP security tab and there was "unkown user S-1 followed by a
string of digits listed as a user.

About that time I got a Norton message that another network had been
discovered.
I looked at the local server adapter and it was connected to a unkown
169.254.X.X address and a tremendous number of packets were flowing I
disconnected the server from the DSL modem to isolate the network under the
assumption I was being hacked.

After this there was no server listed under servers. I tried to reboot and
it hung for 1. hour at network settings. Tried a second time same
result.Tried to go from last successful etc. Result it is in a do loop at
ISASSE.exe.

At this point I am only interested in getting my data files off the server
on to a workstation. Can you point me in the right direction to get it
running enough to offload the disk data? Thanks again. And yes I am looking
for the most recent backup but they are on tape so I need it up to even try
that.
Thanks

"Wildwilly" wrote:

>
>
> "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" wrote:
>
> > You should not have any difficulty setting up DHCP, you should NEVER have to
> > do it. Run the 'Change Server IP Address' item from the SBS console,
> > Internet and Email section. This changes the server's internal IP and makes
> > many other modifications for correct SBS operation. I don't care that it now
> > works, run the wizard to again change the subnet. When done, post back
> > saying explicitly 'I have run the "Change Server IP Address" wizard, as
> > advised' or I'm going to leave you to your own mechanics.
> >
> > Then Run the CEICW (Connect to the Internet item, SBS console, To-Do List),
> > I hope it will fix any manual changes you have implemented to NAT. There is
> > no reason for you to be looking at NAT, or address pools, and the reason
> > your email isn't working is that you haven't run the CEICW (or tried it and
> > it failed because of your previously misconfigured network). Again, post
> > back 'I have run the CEICW' or you're on your own.
> >
> > Sorry to be using the 2*4 on you but you are creating your own problems.
> >
> > No component of SBS (that I can think of) other than the CEICW (and through
> > it DNS Server) need know anything about your ISP IP settings, you use a
> > private network (192.168.X.Y/24) on both your internal and external
> > interfaces, X should be different so that the two are seperate subnets (you
> > could, and some advise to, use another private range, say 10.whatever for
> > either). The CEICW will ask you to supply ISP DNS info, it will feed these
> > to DNS Server as 'forwarders'.
> >
> > BTW: there's no reason to hide the private ranges in use, here's mine
> >
> > C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator.LC>ipconfig /all
> >
> > Windows IP Configuration
> >
> > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : sbs
> > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : lc.lan
> > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
> > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
> > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
> > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : lc.lan
> >
> > Ethernet adapter Server Local Area Connection:
> >
> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NetServer 10/100TX PCI LAN Adapter
> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-60-B0-68-EE-2D
> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.250.2
> > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
> > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.250.2
> > Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.250.2
> >
> > Ethernet adapter External:
> >
> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast
> > Ethernet
> > NIC
> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-20-18-A1-39-42
> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.168.2
> > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.168.1
> > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.250.2
> > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
> >
> >
> > "Wildwilly" <fonger101@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:OSkXtA9YFHA.2664@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Thanks you were right. I did not have the two cards on separate subnets.
> > > They were not both plugged into the Netopia. I made the changes you
> > > suggested. I had some difficulties with Setting up the DHCP relative to
> > > what DNS they should look to and what IP addresses should be listened for
> > > but I think I have those resolved. Now I am working on the NAT. setup.
> > > When it asks for the address pool , should that be my ISP provided IP
> > > number and should the mask be 255.255.255.254 since I have only one static
> > > address?
> > >
> > > Last unresolved test issue. Outlook (Exchange) apparently is not
> > > receiving mail addressed to myname @ my domain.com although it is posting
> > > mail addressed to MYname@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx my ISP account I believe that
> > > implies the POP 3 connector is working but there is a problem with the
> > > SMTP or Internet address.. Any thoughts on how to start trouble shooting
> > > that.
> > >
> > > Thanks again for your help. You really saved me some frustration.
> > >
> > > "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <not@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > > news:eE2sj$0YFHA.132@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> you appear to be using the same subnet for both NICs. XXX.9/24 internally
> > >> and XXX.45/24 externally. This is not correct.
> > >> Also, I suspect you have both NICs plugged into the Netopia which you are
> > >> also using as your LAN switch. This is less than optimal.
> > >> Let SBS do DHCP for the clients.
> > >>
> > >> What you want:
> > >>
> > >> Netopia public IP
> > >> XXX.254/24
> > >> |
> > >> |
> > >> SBS External XXX.9/24
> > >> SBS Internal XXY.whatever/24
> > >> |
> > >> |
> > >> Switch
> > >> |
> > >> |
> > >> SBS clients, XXY.x/24 via DHCP from SBS
> > >>
> > >> make the physical changes, run the 'Change Server IP' wiz to put the
> > >> internal NIC into a different subnet and you should be up.
> > >>
> > >> "Wildwilly" <fonger101@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > >> news:%23FFu%23qxYFHA.616@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >>>I am trying to go to a two adapter set up for the SBS server. I have
> > >>>Read and reread KB Aricle 825763 How to configure Internte access and I
> > >>>try to follow it by the numbers. I still cannot make it work. I am sure
> > >>>I am too involved to see some small setting I have wrong.
> > >>>
> > >>> My server can access the internet.and the company web. I can remote
> > >>> workplace from my workstation to the server and run the server. The
> > >>> server can see my workstation but the only files visible are the
> > >>> Symantec VPHOME and VP Login, printers and faxes, and scheduled tasks.
> > >>> Cannot see the hard drive
> > >>>
> > >>> My workstation cannot access the internet, Cannot send Outlook 2003
> > >>> Mail. I am convinced one of the network or router cards is misconfigued.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> SBS 2003 Intel Pro 1000 MT card, and a dual Intel Pro 1000 MT card.
> > >>> DSL Ethernet Switch is Netopia( Cayman) 3346 with 4 ports.
> > >>> Linksys 16 Port Dual Speed hub.
> > >>> BellSouth DSL 3Mb service
> > >>>
> > >>> LAN- side network card
> > >>> IP X.X.X.9, Subnet 255.255.255.0
> > >>> Default Gateway is blank
> > >>> DNS use the LAN IP address of the server x.x.x.9
> > >>>
> > >>> DNS tab Append primary and connection specific DNS suffixes
> > >>> Append parent suffixes of the primary DNS sufix
> > >>> Reister this connection's addresses in DNS
> > >>> Wins Tab enable LMHOSTs lookup
> > >>> Enable Net Bios over TCP/IP
> > >>>
> > >>> Second Network adapter
> > >>> WAN- side network card LAN IP X.X.X .45, Per article insturctions.
> > >>> "Type the static IP address that is providedby your ISP,
> > >>> or the IP you want to use." When using a router should it be the
> > >>> LAN Side IP or the fixed WAN IP address of the router. Using the Fixed
> > >>> WAN IP you get an error message that they are on different
> > >>> subnets.
> > >>> Subnet 255.255.255.0,
> > >>>
> > >>> Default gateway the LAN IP of the Router X.X.X. 254,
> > >>> DNS server the LAN IP of the Local Server X.X..X.9 ) Alternate DNS blank
> > >>> (per article instructions)
> > >>> WINS Tab of Advanced TCP/IP Enable LMHOSTS. Disable NetBIOS over TCP/IP
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Netopia Settings
> > >>> Status: UP
> > >>> Local Address: Internet IP Y.Y.Y. 161 Peer addresses 68.152.252.185
> > >>> Connection Type: always on
> > >>> NAT : On
> > >>> IP Address Lan IP X.X.X.254
> > >>> Netmask: 255.255.255. 0
> > >>>
> > >>> DHCP Server ON :
> > >>> DNS-1 WAN IP X.X.X.X
> > >>> DHCP Leases in use 2
> > >>>
> > >>> DHCP Server ,
> > >>> Server mode : Server (other choice is relay agent)
> > >>> Starting and ending IP Addresses are with the LAN side subnet.
> > >>>
> > >>> WAN IP interfaces
> > >>> PPP over Ethernet vcc1
> > >>> IP Gateway : Enable Gateway option
> > >>> Interface type: PPP over Ethernet (vcc1) other option is IP address
> > >>> Enable interface : checked
> > >>> Adress Mapping (NAT) checked
> > >>> ISP Usename: filled in
> > >>> ISP Password : filled in
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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