Re: SBS 2003 Premium SP1 Upgrade Story
- From: "MikeMc" <mmcelrath@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 18:34:29 -0500
Susan,
"issues with your box"
I agree, that's why I built a clean SBS with SP1. I only upgraded the old
system to test Trend Micro.
"Is that protector supported?"
V2i Protector (drive image for servers) may not be supported now. A number
of my applications are being broken by updates and security fixes. Soon my
system will be totally secure and I will be out of business as none of my
application software will run on it any more.
"separate partition"
I always have a separate OS partition on my computers. This allows me to
test new applications or procedures on 'my' system without disrupting 'my'
system. When I converted from Windows 2000 SBS, I ran Windows SBS 2003 in a
separate partition for several weeks while I was learning about it.
Eventually, when I was happy with it, I switched to SBS 2003 full time. My
largest customer has 750 computers of which I take care of 75. I have had a
total of 5 hours downtime on their serves since 1999. While my methods may
not be conventional, my customers are happy. I use my system as a test bed
so that when I go on site my customers have no surprises.
My engineering/manufacturing company (my core business) uses project
management, mrp, accounting and cad software, all of which have server
components. When a new update or software package comes out, I need to test
it first. That's why I use the separate OS partitions.
Thanks, MikeMc
PS: The server has now been rebuilt with a clean install of SBS 2003 Premium
without SP1. I may try an upgrade again tomorrow.
"Susan Bradley" <sbradcpa@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:eBgrbjGZFHA.980@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> If you have issues with your box, applying a service pack isn't the
> answer.
>
> Is that protector supported on SP1?
>
> Also how much of a production system is this? I never put a server os "on
> a separate partition" that's more beta activity.
>
> Personally I always use Trend's script option for installs that is always
> 100% perfect.
>
> If you had Trend did you either stop iisadmin or trend before instlal?
> Mine also got stuck on this step [see the sp1 document on
> www.smallbizserver.net and all of this has been documented.
>
>
> MikeMc wrote:
>> I have had SBS 2003 Premium installed on my server since it came out. It
>> has generally work fine without any problems. About a week ago I noticed
>> that I could no longer use OWA. I would get a 401 error. If I ran the
>> 'Connect to the Internet' wizard, the Firewall setup would error out.
>> When I posted to the newsgroup, no one offered any solutions.
>>
>> I decided to reinstall SBS 2003 Premium with SP1 on a separate partition.
>> I use V2i Protector and I made incremental 'images' as I rebuilt the
>> system (i.e. base windows install, base + SBS - ISA 2000, base + SBS +
>> SP1, base + SBS + SP1 + ISA 2004). This all when fine with only one
>> problem. My SBS server has 19 hard drives if you count the 9 that are in
>> a Firewire case beside the server. When the base Windows was installed I
>> had to remap most of the drives including the CDROM. When the
>> installation of SP1 continued it tried to fine its files on drive R which
>> was now F. The dialog box did not have an option to select another
>> location, so I had to cancel. I restored the previous image, edited the
>> registry for the installation source, and started over.
>>
>> Once the SBS SP1 system was installed and Windows Updates where applied,
>> I proceeded to install applications. First was V2I Protector which failed
>> on reboot; GEARSecurity error- this was working on pre-SP1. Next was
>> Trend Micro CSM. The install when ok, but when I tired to do a remote
>> install to a client it would not accept the password; "The administrator
>> does not have administrative rights". I tried several different installs
>> of Trend Micro and the workstation I was building, all using images to
>> backup and try again. Nothing worked.
>>
>> Next, I decided to try to upgrade the existing SBS installation. I first
>> did a remote install of Trend Micro and everything when fine. During the
>> upgrade, Outlook failed the upgrade, I was not concerned as I use Office
>> 2003 Pro. Next, on the installation of ISA 2004, the wizard for internet
>> connection failed at the Firewall and Certificate points. Once the
>> upgrade was complete, the server was isolated from the internet, both in
>> and out. There were a number of errors in the event logs. I tried to do a
>> remote install on the workstation with Trend Micro and it failed again,
>> same as before "The administrator does not have administrative rights".
>> My guess is that this is an ISA 2004 issue.
>>
>> By Tuesday I need to have my system working again, especially the remote
>> access. Based on what has happened so far, I'm doing a complete reinstall
>> of SBS 2003 Premium with all updates except SP1. I do not believe that
>> this SP1 update was tested on enough different systems based on what I
>> have experienced. When I upgraded my Windows 2003 servers (web and file),
>> I had no problems at all. The SP1 upgrade on a new system when OK, until
>> the addition of third party applications. This is where the beta testing
>> failed.
>>
>> I will try this upgrade again in the fall, once the bugs have been worked
>> out.
>>
>> MikeMc
>>
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