Re: Why doesn't the MSFT group include the post they reply too?
- From: Jim Behning SBS MVP<jimbehing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 03:04:42 GMT
Why not send an email to Steve Balmer or Jim Alchin? The Microsoft
employees use the tools they are supplied. Maybe you can get Steve or
Jim to help you out with your quest. Trust me, I sure find their
posting method annoying but there is nothing I can do get them to
change. I am not a certified partner so my voice is tiny.
Bottom posting stinks after a long thread because a bottom post is
found a thousand lines down. I certainly hate scrolling for pages just
to find answers with all those > signs with no info beside it. your
mileage may vary. Usenet user since before 1995. Of course a silly
number like that means nothing.
Leythos <void@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>In article <xn0e2nlbhbsrcbw015@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
>steve.foster@xxxxxxxxxxxxx says...
>> Leythos wrote:
>>
>> > Guys (and ladies) in the MSFT group of helpers, do you know that it's
>> > proper to quote the part of the message that you are replying too?
>> >
>> > This means that when you reply, you include the posters message, and
>> > that you should put your reply BELOW it.
>> >
>> > It appears that you've all started NOT including the OP's post when you
>> > reply - this means that other readers of the posts in the PUBLIC forum
>> > may not be able to see the contents of the problem you are replying too.
>> >
>> > Also, signatures in usenet (that part of your message that identifies
>> > you) should be limited to 4-5 lines.
>>
>> Just to make sure it's clear, since I'm not sure it has been made so, the
>> "MSFT group of helpers" are actual Microsoft staff, posting as part of
>> their day jobs. They are using a custom client (for a number of reasons -
>> legal issues undoubtedly being several of them) for these groups that
>> behaves completely differently than most NNTP clients, and unfortunately,
>> one of its' limitations (AIUI) is that it does not include any portion of
>> a post when they create a reply.
>
>And I'm very glad MS lets people participate in this group as part of
>the business unit, it's a good way to support clients that pay a LOT for
>licenses.
>
>The fact that MS provides Usenet media format based support does not
>absolve them from having the proper tools for the job. Again, I own a
>company that is a Certified Partner, and we provide a LOT of MS
>solutions all over the USA, but I would never think of using the wrong
>tool for the job when setting up a means to contact clients or as a
>means for clients to contact their clients.
>
>> > In case you're wondering, all that I've said has been the norm for more
>> > than 20 years, before MS entered the Usenet market.
>>
>> AFAIK, there is no usenet "market", and Microsoft haven't "entered" it.
>> Microsoft runs a set of NNTP newsgroups on their own set of servers for
>> the benefit of their users. They happen to have allowed other NNTP servers
>> to peer their newsgroup hierarchy, but there is no obligation on Microsoft
>> to do so.
>
>So, if they have Usenet servers, which is one of the means to
>participate here, it would reason that Usenet norms for posting and
>replying would be followed.
>
>I think you're completely missing my point in asking here - The format
>is Usenet based, so why not follow the Usenet norms?
>
>--
Jim B. SBS MVP
I don't have much to say but it can be found here
http://msmvps.com/bgb/
.
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