Re: Best way to connect via wireless in new SBS install?
- From: "GeordieB" <GeordieB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 11:27:02 -0700
Thanks Les, I will be re-installing SBS after adding a 2nd NIC to the server.
That sounds like the right way to do it. So much to learn...
Thanks again,
Geordie
"Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS M" wrote:
> Hi Geordie,
>
> With all of the computers connected to the linksys (as a switch), they are
> all on the internal network, (including wireless connected computers) as
> that's the only network there is. That wouldn't be my choice, I prefer the
> two nic setup for security reasons.
>
>
> --
> Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> SBS Rocks !
>
>
> "GeordieB" <GeordieB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:BAC08F09-2C2A-48F5-8AA1-DD9094D5688C@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Les,
> >
> > Thanks, I see now how to have my wireless laptop connect internally. In a
> > typical small office, or in my test environment, my home office network,
> > is
> > there any downside to having all wireless internet go through SBS? In
> > other
> > words, I currently have my Linksys WRT54G Router/AP connected to my cable
> > modem, and SBS server is connected, along with 3 workstations, to the
> > router's hard wired ports. I see now that this will not allow me direct
> > access to my SBS internal network via wireless, correct? (I mean without
> > using a remote solution as if I was physically away from the office).
> >
> > With 2 NICS, then, I would connect my SBS server directly to the cable
> > modem
> > (running a firewall on SBS of course), and use the Linksys Router/AP
> > simply
> > as a network switch and wireless access point. Would that allow internal
> > network access via wireless?
> >
> > And again, is there any downside to leaving this as the only wireless
> > internet access, through SBS? (Other than having to leave the SBS server
> > on
> > 24/7, which is pretty much the whole point of installing this whole thing
> > anyway!) Such as slower access due to additional overhead of going through
> > SBS, etc.?
> >
> > Again, many thanks for your help. This is really exciting product, and I
> > have at least six clients waiting in the wings to upgrade to SBS 2003, so
> > I'm
> > totally immersed in everything SBS these days (just ask my wife!). This
> > online community is a wonderful resource, and I appreciate your
> > willingness
> > to share your time and expertise.
> >
> > Geordie
> >
> > "Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS M" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Geordie,
> >>
> >> If you go with a two nic setup, you'll have an external range of IP's
> >> (say,
> >> 192.168.0.x - your external router DHCP scope) and an internal range
> >> (192.168.16.x - your SBS DHCP scope).
> >>
> >> With SBS standard, RRAS will filter traffic between the two networks, and
> >> with SBS Premium (and ISA installed), ISA will do the filtering.
> >>
> >> So, to enable wireless connections on the internal network, you'll
> >> purchase
> >> a wirless access point and plug it into the switch your SBS internal nic
> >> is
> >> connected to. Most SOHO gateway routers with wireless capabilitites can
> >> be
> >> configured as access points. Your SBS will be the DHCP server for all
> >> internal clients, including wired and wireless connections. These clients
> >> will get internet access through the SBS.
> >>
> >> If you also want to provide wired and/or wireless connections on the
> >> external network (for internet access, etc.), you can use the external
> >> wireless-capable router for that purpose. These clients will get internet
> >> access without going through the SBS.
> >>
> >> You can keep security high for the SBS internal side, and lessen it for
> >> convenience on the external side if you wish.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]
> >> -----------------------------------------------------------
> >> SBS Rocks !
> >>
> >>
> >> "GeordieB" <GeordieB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> news:DE274A85-4CAF-40FE-A895-68AFDC7DA7C1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Thanks much Chris! That's some good info, but I have a couple of
> >> > follow-up
> >> > questions:
> >> > 1) Is there only one NIC in your server? It sounds like that is the
> >> > case,
> >> > but I want to be sure.
> >> >
> >> > 2) How do the wi-fi laptops connect to the wireless AP? Is that due to
> >> > setting the secondary DNS to point to the Router? I guess I'm not quite
> >> > understanding how the wifi laptop connects to the wireless AP in the
> >> > first
> >> > place, if the AP is not setup to give it an IP address (since SBS is
> >> > now
> >> > the
> >> > DHCP server).
> >> >
> >> > 3) So the laptops are *not* part of the internal network? (only having
> >> > basic
> >> > internet access?). Ultimately, I'd like to have the wireless laptops
> >> > connect
> >> > to SBS somehow. Perhaps using Remote Web Access? I know there are
> >> > different
> >> > methods to do this, just unsure of which one will be most convenient.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks again,
> >> > Geordie
> >> >
> >> > "Chris Lawson" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I have just setup someline very similar for a client of mine.
> >> >>
> >> >> 1. Windows 2003 SBS
> >> >> 2. Two Desktop Clients(cat5)
> >> >> 3. Two Laptops(wifi)
> >> >> 4. A Netcomm NB5580W
> >> >>
> >> >> So far, the way i have done the setup is turning the DHCP server off
> >> >> the
> >> >> NB5580, and setup DHCP on the server. My reasons behind doing this
> >> >> was:
> >> >>
> >> >> 1. Creater control over the VPN access (thought the DHCP)
> >> >> 2. Better setup for DNS(able to set internal and external servers for
> >> >> relivant traffic routing)
> >> >>
> >> >> This is a rought setup of the IP setup for the client.
> >> >>
> >> >> IP Range: 192.168.0.0/24
> >> >> Static IP Range - 192.168.0.1 - 192.168.0.10(use for printers, routers
> >> >> etc....)
> >> >> Dynamic IP Range - 192.168.0.11 - 192.168.0.254(use for desktops and
> >> >> laptops)
> >> >>
> >> >> The server is 192.168.0.1
> >> >> The router is 192.168.0.5(a reservation IP is set in the DHCP Server
> >> >> to
> >> >> make
> >> >> sure nothing else gets this IP)
> >> >>
> >> >> In the DHCP Server config i have told it to assign all connected PC's
> >> >> to
> >> >> use
> >> >> 192.168.0.5 as the default router. The Primary DNS server is the
> >> >> win2k3
> >> >> machine(192.168.0.1, this means that all local internal network
> >> >> traffic
> >> >> stays local), the secondary is the router(most routers these days have
> >> >> DNS
> >> >> Proxy which passes on all DNS traffic to the ISP that its connected
> >> >> with
> >> >> provided they auto-assign DNS Servers to there connected clients).
> >> >>
> >> >> Any laptops that come into the office and use the wireless they are
> >> >> still
> >> >> on
> >> >> a restricted access to the network soley because they need have have
> >> >> user/pass to get access to any of the desktops, laptops or server. all
> >> >> they
> >> >> have is basic access to the internet(and thats all they need).
> >> >>
> >> >> I hope this helps with some of your questions.
> >> >>
> >> >> If you want any further information, please feel free to let me know.
> >> >>
> >> >> Kind Regards
> >> >> Chris Lawson
> >> >> IT Service and Consulting
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "GeordieB" <GeordieB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> >> news:90ACC8F5-F030-4E16-9C73-DB9F67F02E58@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >> > After perusing these boards, I've seen so much great info, thought
> >> >> > I'd
> >> >> throw
> >> >> > this out. I'm installing SBS 2003 on my network. 4 clients (2
> >> >> > desktops
> >> >> > via
> >> >> > Cat5, plus 2 laptops connecting via 802.11b/g) in an existing peer
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > peer
> >> >> > network. My new server has one NIC, and I was going to use my
> >> >> > Linksys
> >> >> WRT54G
> >> >> > Router/AP for DHCP. However, I've seen so many posts suggesting
> >> >> > using
> >> >> > SBS
> >> >> for
> >> >> > DHCP.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Question: What's the best way to be able to connect to the SBS
> >> >> > network
> >> >> from
> >> >> > my wireless laptop? If I understand what I've been reading here, I
> >> >> > want
> >> >> > my
> >> >> > wireless connection to connect to the 'internal' SBS network (if my
> >> >> > router
> >> >> > does the DHCP, my wireless laptop would end up in a 'perimeter'
> >> >> > network?).
> >> >> > Mainly, I want to be able to keep Outlook 2003 sync'd between my
> >> >> > home
> >> >> office
> >> >> > desktop computer and my laptop, as well as document sharing.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I'm planning to install SBS a few times to learn the process, so
> >> >> > adding
> >> >> > another NIC or changing some major setting is no problem. I'd like
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > go
> >> >> live
> >> >> > later this week, but want to do it right. Also, if I put my Router
> >> >> > inside
> >> >> the
> >> >> > network, would its builtin firewall be basically useless at that
> >> >> > point
> >> >> (being
> >> >> > that SBS would have the firewall between my ISP and the network?).
> >> >> > Am I
> >> >> even
> >> >> > making any sense???
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks for all your help,
> >> >> > Geordie
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
.
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