Re: Best way to connect via wireless in new SBS install?

Hi Geordie,

With all of the computers connected to the linksys (as a switch), they are
all on the internal network, (including wireless connected computers) as
that's the only network there is. That wouldn't be my choice, I prefer the
two nic setup for security reasons.


--
Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]
-----------------------------------------------------------
SBS Rocks !


"GeordieB" <GeordieB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:BAC08F09-2C2A-48F5-8AA1-DD9094D5688C@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Les,
>
> Thanks, I see now how to have my wireless laptop connect internally. In a
> typical small office, or in my test environment, my home office network,
> is
> there any downside to having all wireless internet go through SBS? In
> other
> words, I currently have my Linksys WRT54G Router/AP connected to my cable
> modem, and SBS server is connected, along with 3 workstations, to the
> router's hard wired ports. I see now that this will not allow me direct
> access to my SBS internal network via wireless, correct? (I mean without
> using a remote solution as if I was physically away from the office).
>
> With 2 NICS, then, I would connect my SBS server directly to the cable
> modem
> (running a firewall on SBS of course), and use the Linksys Router/AP
> simply
> as a network switch and wireless access point. Would that allow internal
> network access via wireless?
>
> And again, is there any downside to leaving this as the only wireless
> internet access, through SBS? (Other than having to leave the SBS server
> on
> 24/7, which is pretty much the whole point of installing this whole thing
> anyway!) Such as slower access due to additional overhead of going through
> SBS, etc.?
>
> Again, many thanks for your help. This is really exciting product, and I
> have at least six clients waiting in the wings to upgrade to SBS 2003, so
> I'm
> totally immersed in everything SBS these days (just ask my wife!). This
> online community is a wonderful resource, and I appreciate your
> willingness
> to share your time and expertise.
>
> Geordie
>
> "Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS M" wrote:
>
>> Hi Geordie,
>>
>> If you go with a two nic setup, you'll have an external range of IP's
>> (say,
>> 192.168.0.x - your external router DHCP scope) and an internal range
>> (192.168.16.x - your SBS DHCP scope).
>>
>> With SBS standard, RRAS will filter traffic between the two networks, and
>> with SBS Premium (and ISA installed), ISA will do the filtering.
>>
>> So, to enable wireless connections on the internal network, you'll
>> purchase
>> a wirless access point and plug it into the switch your SBS internal nic
>> is
>> connected to. Most SOHO gateway routers with wireless capabilitites can
>> be
>> configured as access points. Your SBS will be the DHCP server for all
>> internal clients, including wired and wireless connections. These clients
>> will get internet access through the SBS.
>>
>> If you also want to provide wired and/or wireless connections on the
>> external network (for internet access, etc.), you can use the external
>> wireless-capable router for that purpose. These clients will get internet
>> access without going through the SBS.
>>
>> You can keep security high for the SBS internal side, and lessen it for
>> convenience on the external side if you wish.
>>
>> --
>> Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]
>> -----------------------------------------------------------
>> SBS Rocks !
>>
>>
>> "GeordieB" <GeordieB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:DE274A85-4CAF-40FE-A895-68AFDC7DA7C1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Thanks much Chris! That's some good info, but I have a couple of
>> > follow-up
>> > questions:
>> > 1) Is there only one NIC in your server? It sounds like that is the
>> > case,
>> > but I want to be sure.
>> >
>> > 2) How do the wi-fi laptops connect to the wireless AP? Is that due to
>> > setting the secondary DNS to point to the Router? I guess I'm not quite
>> > understanding how the wifi laptop connects to the wireless AP in the
>> > first
>> > place, if the AP is not setup to give it an IP address (since SBS is
>> > now
>> > the
>> > DHCP server).
>> >
>> > 3) So the laptops are *not* part of the internal network? (only having
>> > basic
>> > internet access?). Ultimately, I'd like to have the wireless laptops
>> > connect
>> > to SBS somehow. Perhaps using Remote Web Access? I know there are
>> > different
>> > methods to do this, just unsure of which one will be most convenient.
>> >
>> > Thanks again,
>> > Geordie
>> >
>> > "Chris Lawson" wrote:
>> >
>> >> I have just setup someline very similar for a client of mine.
>> >>
>> >> 1. Windows 2003 SBS
>> >> 2. Two Desktop Clients(cat5)
>> >> 3. Two Laptops(wifi)
>> >> 4. A Netcomm NB5580W
>> >>
>> >> So far, the way i have done the setup is turning the DHCP server off
>> >> the
>> >> NB5580, and setup DHCP on the server. My reasons behind doing this
>> >> was:
>> >>
>> >> 1. Creater control over the VPN access (thought the DHCP)
>> >> 2. Better setup for DNS(able to set internal and external servers for
>> >> relivant traffic routing)
>> >>
>> >> This is a rought setup of the IP setup for the client.
>> >>
>> >> IP Range: 192.168.0.0/24
>> >> Static IP Range - 192.168.0.1 - 192.168.0.10(use for printers, routers
>> >> etc....)
>> >> Dynamic IP Range - 192.168.0.11 - 192.168.0.254(use for desktops and
>> >> laptops)
>> >>
>> >> The server is 192.168.0.1
>> >> The router is 192.168.0.5(a reservation IP is set in the DHCP Server
>> >> to
>> >> make
>> >> sure nothing else gets this IP)
>> >>
>> >> In the DHCP Server config i have told it to assign all connected PC's
>> >> to
>> >> use
>> >> 192.168.0.5 as the default router. The Primary DNS server is the
>> >> win2k3
>> >> machine(192.168.0.1, this means that all local internal network
>> >> traffic
>> >> stays local), the secondary is the router(most routers these days have
>> >> DNS
>> >> Proxy which passes on all DNS traffic to the ISP that its connected
>> >> with
>> >> provided they auto-assign DNS Servers to there connected clients).
>> >>
>> >> Any laptops that come into the office and use the wireless they are
>> >> still
>> >> on
>> >> a restricted access to the network soley because they need have have
>> >> user/pass to get access to any of the desktops, laptops or server. all
>> >> they
>> >> have is basic access to the internet(and thats all they need).
>> >>
>> >> I hope this helps with some of your questions.
>> >>
>> >> If you want any further information, please feel free to let me know.
>> >>
>> >> Kind Regards
>> >> Chris Lawson
>> >> IT Service and Consulting
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "GeordieB" <GeordieB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> news:90ACC8F5-F030-4E16-9C73-DB9F67F02E58@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> > After perusing these boards, I've seen so much great info, thought
>> >> > I'd
>> >> throw
>> >> > this out. I'm installing SBS 2003 on my network. 4 clients (2
>> >> > desktops
>> >> > via
>> >> > Cat5, plus 2 laptops connecting via 802.11b/g) in an existing peer
>> >> > to
>> >> > peer
>> >> > network. My new server has one NIC, and I was going to use my
>> >> > Linksys
>> >> WRT54G
>> >> > Router/AP for DHCP. However, I've seen so many posts suggesting
>> >> > using
>> >> > SBS
>> >> for
>> >> > DHCP.
>> >> >
>> >> > Question: What's the best way to be able to connect to the SBS
>> >> > network
>> >> from
>> >> > my wireless laptop? If I understand what I've been reading here, I
>> >> > want
>> >> > my
>> >> > wireless connection to connect to the 'internal' SBS network (if my
>> >> > router
>> >> > does the DHCP, my wireless laptop would end up in a 'perimeter'
>> >> > network?).
>> >> > Mainly, I want to be able to keep Outlook 2003 sync'd between my
>> >> > home
>> >> office
>> >> > desktop computer and my laptop, as well as document sharing.
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm planning to install SBS a few times to learn the process, so
>> >> > adding
>> >> > another NIC or changing some major setting is no problem. I'd like
>> >> > to
>> >> > go
>> >> live
>> >> > later this week, but want to do it right. Also, if I put my Router
>> >> > inside
>> >> the
>> >> > network, would its builtin firewall be basically useless at that
>> >> > point
>> >> (being
>> >> > that SBS would have the firewall between my ISP and the network?).
>> >> > Am I
>> >> even
>> >> > making any sense???
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks for all your help,
>> >> > Geordie
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>


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