Re: Stupid email tricks: Have a good laugh on me
- From: "Al Williams" <donotreplydirect@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 11:25:00 -0600
Slipstick has a list of duplicate email deleters that your customer may find
useful perhaps:
http://www.slipstick.com/addins/mail.htm
--
Allan Williams
"Gary Karasik" <gkarasik@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> LOl... cheers for that Gary, gave me a smile (sorry)
>
> 'salright, Bill. I'd laugh if I read it. I will laugh too in about a
> year.
>
> The backup system, which the company I'm using (West Coast Internet) is
> calling "Store and Forward," works like this: I have the client's ISP post
> a secondary MX record, preference 15 (the primary MX preference, the
> client's MAIL.DOMAIN.ORG, is 10, so mail first tries to go there). If my
> Exchange server is unavailable for whatever reason, mail goes to the
> secondary server, which is called ETRN.FEA.NET. Their server will hold my
> mail for up to two weeks and automatically try to forward it every half
> hour. When my server comes back online, I can either wait half-an-hour for
> their server to forward the mail on its own, or I can send an ETRN to
> their server and cause it to deque the mail. This way, if the SBS is down
> for whatever reason, none of my client's customers get a bounce-back.
> Costs US$10 per month. My POP3 mail server, which I today cancelled, was
> costing US$25 per month, so the client is saving US$15 per month and
> getting better email service.
>
> I don't want to sound like I've just discovered fire. People here have
> recommended something like this before, but this particular package seemed
> just too good to pass up.
>
> GaryK
>
> "Bill Swan" <bill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:ON1ad7LXFHA.3584@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> LOl... cheers for that Gary, gave me a smile (sorry)
>>
>> Interested to ask how your email back scenario works.. TIA
>>
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>>
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>>
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>> "M. Hayes" <MHayes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:3E7F1FCD-8234-478E-AEE1-1AC2C1485C04@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>I hopes to may up feel btr Gary her goes: I was adding a new RAID card to
>>>a
>>> box, all the drives on the card were up and running. BUT! Now the CD
>>> dirrves
>>> and x-tra HDD would not show up......after an hour of config
>>> checks......I
>>> forgot to plug in the power. Have a good day on me.
>>>
>>> "Gary Karasik" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Just a cautionary tale, because I doubt that the planet could sustain
>>>> two
>>>> people stupid as me, but just in case....
>>>>
>>>> Here's what I did so you don't have to: Yesterday I instructed my ISP
>>>> to
>>>> change my DNS/A record from the POP3 server (hosted by the ISP) to my
>>>> Exchange server. (I also had them add a secondary MX address for the
>>>> backup
>>>> mail server.)
>>>>
>>>> The change went in at 6:00pm and by 9:00 my Exchange was live.
>>>>
>>>> This morning I started getting frantic calls from users whose Inboxes
>>>> were
>>>> filling up with duplicates, some new, some messages they'd already
>>>> seen.
>>>>
>>>> I looked at the ScanMail dialog and could see messages by the hundreds
>>>> flowing through the virus scanner. I started to troubleshoot.
>>>>
>>>> I won't bore you with the troubleshooting details, but what I had done,
>>>> out
>>>> of an excess of caution, is leave the POP3 Connector running, thinking
>>>> that
>>>> if some DNS servers didn't get the A record change, that the email
>>>> would go
>>>> to the old POP3 server and the POP3 Connector could download it.
>>>>
>>>> This by itself wouldn't have been a problem except that for some remote
>>>> users who couldn't use Outlook or OWA, I had the POP3 Service turned
>>>> on.
>>>>
>>>> Getting an inkling?
>>>>
>>>> When the POP3 connector tried to DL messages from MAIL.DOMAIN.ORG,
>>>> given
>>>> that the new IP of MAIL.DOMAIN.ORG was my own POP3 enabled Exchange
>>>> server,
>>>> Exchange was in effect and via the POP3 Connector through the POP3
>>>> Service
>>>> DLing email from itself in a giant, ever expanding loop. (The way I
>>>> figured
>>>> it out was from the POP3 errors in the Application Event Log.)
>>>>
>>>> The client is NOT happy: Each of the users has to go through hundreds
>>>> of
>>>> already-seen emails.
>>>>
>>>> Bottom line is: Don't have your A record pointing to your own server
>>>> while
>>>> both your POP3 Connector and your POP3 Service is turned on. Not that
>>>> you
>>>> ever would.
>>>>
>>>> It's okay. You can laugh.
>>>>
>>>> GaryK
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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