Re: Unable to access https sites

http://www.smallbizserver.net/Default.aspx?tabid=151

or remove one of the NICs (NOT preferred)

funny how those oddly superior *nix twits configure their boxes in
non-private address space which is actually owned by a company other than
theirs, or their supplier's, or any other public concern, but a private
company.

I kow changing the *nix subnet isn't going to work for you, they've tied
your LOB application to that subnet and will charge you more to change it
than they originally charged to implement, no?

So, you have to replace the 'proper' private subnet on the private side of
the lovely M&M's diagram with your crippled *nix subnet. Don't worry about
the fact that this subnet exists in public space, I haven't found a host on
that subnet one would be concerned about not being to access.

"Peter" <Peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:9A78F201-EA9E-482C-B6C2-B550F95FC779@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Yes we have a unix box, setup in 1997 with the IP range 195.1.154.xxx. I
> can't change it.
> The NT box is being replaced by the SBS. It has always looked at the
> ISP's
> DNS and has always worked. So perhaps it is a red herring.
> So the crux is the SBS settings. I didn't know the two NICs shouldn't be
> on
> the same subnet.
> If my SBS LAN NIC is 195.1.154.251 as is the gateway, my router is
> 195.1.154.199 and the address provided my ISP is 213.152.59.98 what would
> you
> suggest the External LAN address should be.
> Once again thanks for the help
> Peter
>
> "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Why is the NT box looking to your ISP's DNS servers? (or anything else
>> other
>> than SBS)
>> Why does the SBS have two NICs in the same subnet? (which we all know
>> doesn't work)
>> and why is that subnet an odd range? (got a Unix box? SCO maybe? it looks
>> familiar)
>>
>> in realistic terms, 'the ipconfig is screwed', fix it.
>>
>>
>> "Peter" <Peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:7DA66ABB-6F15-486D-8E7C-9E329D0925B5@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Thank you all for your help. The SBS is the Standard version.
>> > Over the weekend I made everything simple. One Pc, one NT server (one
>> > network card) connected to a switch and then the router. All Ip
>> > addresses
>> > are fixed. And I can access https.
>> >
>> > Then one PC and one SBS 2003 server (two network cards) connected to a
>> > switch using the LAN card. Plus the 2nd card connected to the router.
>> > Again
>> > all addresses are fixed. There is no change to the router as it is
>> > moved
>> > from one 'network' to the other. Access to https failed.
>> > I have to assume that the router is not the source of the problem.
>> > Next I used the SBS Internet wizard to disabled the firewall, and just
>> > in
>> > case I set the router to pass all incoming ports. Again no joy. So, I
>> > hope
>> > you don't mind if we keep trying. Below are the ipconfig /all results
>> > for
>> > both servers. The router is 199, the NT server 250, the SBS2003 LAN is
>> > 251
>> > and the Internet NIC is 252. The DNS of 212.104.130. is our ISP's:-
>> > NT4
>> > Windows NT IP Configuration
>> > Host Name . . . . . . . . . : server
>> > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : 212.104.130.9
>> > 212.104.130.65
>> > Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
>> > NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . :
>> > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : No
>> > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No
>> > NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : No
>> > Ethernet adapter E100B1:
>> > Description . . . . . . . . : Intel EtherExpress PRO PCI Adapter
>> >
>> > Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-A0-C9-9A-19-DB
>> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>> > IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 195.1.154.250
>> > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>> > Default Gateway . . . . . . : 195.1.154.199
>> > Primary WINS Server . . . . : 195.1.154.250
>> >
>> > SBS2003
>> > Windows IP Configuration
>> > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : SERVER01
>> > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : renwicks.local
>> > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
>> > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
>> > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
>> > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : renwicks.local
>> >
>> > Ethernet adapter Network Connection:
>> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
>> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Network
>> > Connection #2
>> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-11-43-EE-38-33
>> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
>> > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 195.1.154.252
>> > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 195.1.154.199
>> > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 195.1.154.251
>> > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
>> >
>> > Ethernet adapter Server Local Area Connection:
>> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
>> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Network
>> > Connection
>> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-11-43-EE-38-32
>> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
>> > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 195.1.154.251
>> > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
>> > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 195.1.154.251
>> > Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 195.1.154.251
>> >
>> > The only bit that puzzles is the lack of gateway on the SBS LAN card.
>> > Sorry for the length. A final comment, I have to use the NT setup to
>> > talk
>> > to you as 'Passport' is https.
>> > Thanks
>> > Peter
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Frank McCallister SBS MVP" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi Mick
>> >>
>> >> Absolutely correct! As one of our Country Western Songs says "What was
>> >> I
>> >> thinking!" :>)
>> >> (The reason I usually list 3389 for inbound is RDP not Https)
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Frank McCallister SBS MVP
>> >> COMPUMAC
>> >> "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <not@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> news:%23cp%2383sQFHA.4092@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> > this should have absolutely no effect on outgoing requests and I see
>> >> > no
>> >> > reason for 3389 to be opened incoming.
>> >> >
>> >> > "Frank McCallister SBS MVP" <anonymous> wrote in message
>> >> > news:O8FZVAqQFHA.3544@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >> Hi Peter
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Is this Standard or Premium with ISA? Be sure the router is
>> >> >> forwarding
>> >> >> Ports 4125, 443, 3389 to your External NIC see
>> >> >> http://www.smallbizserver.net/Network/TwoNicsastaticIPaddressISArouter/tabid/154/Default.aspx
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Frank McCallister SBS MVP
>> >> >> COMPUMAC
>> >> >> "Peter" <Peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:83C3F4B5-9229-4B45-A090-0756A3013262@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >>> Our set up. New SBS 2003 server to replace NT4 server. Internet
>> >> >>> access
>> >> >>> is
>> >> >>> via a Netgear router. The new server uses two network cards. I
>> >> >>> am
>> >> >>> setting
>> >> >>> up the new server and PCs on a new domain, migrating the PCs from
>> >> >>> the
>> >> >>> old
>> >> >>> domain one at a time. The IP addresses are all in the same range
>> >> >>> with
>> >> >>> only
>> >> >>> the router retaining its original ip address. All the PCs and the
>> >> >>> NT
>> >> >>> server
>> >> >>> on the old domain can access https sites. When needed, the router
>> >> >>> gets
>> >> >>> unplugged from one domain and connected into the other. On the
>> >> >>> new
>> >> >>> domain I
>> >> >>> am unable to access https sites (nor the windows update site).
>> >> >>> Otherwise
>> >> >>> internet access is fine. The router's setting are not changed
>> >> >>> when
>> >> >>> moved.
>> >> >>> Any ideas?
>> >> >>> Thanks
>> >> >>> Peter
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>


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