Re: Proactive or Reactive service?

From: Rick F (rick.REMOVE_at_rdfts.REMOVE.com)
Date: 03/19/05


Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 16:46:06 -0600

I suppose that my concept of services is simpler but somewhat similar in
nature.

Monitoring monthly service
Hourly Rate
Pre-paid block of hours

I offer a monitoring/patch service for as low as $100 per month for SBS
clients. Most of my clients pre-pay for a block of hours and I just deduct
my work from it and inform them when the block is low and they usually
replenish it. If they don't purchase a block of hours then it is just by the
hour and billed for Net10. My discount is basically free hours depending how
large the block of hours. If they purchase a block and also are on the
monitoring service, then I deduct 2 hours per month.

-- 
Rick Faria - MCSE / A+
RDF Technical Services - www.rdfts.com
Email: support at rdfts dot com
"TK - M/T Box Computers" <terry@removethis.mtboxcomputers.com> wrote in 
message news:OmoyiKMLFHA.1916@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Thanks for posting Rick.  I'm not quite done with my outline yet, but it 
> is basically intended to get my non-service agreement clients on either a 
> service agreement, a retainer agreement, or just monthly service at my 
> normal rates.  Obviously in business the primary goal is to make money. 
> However, my business partner and I love technology, are big SBS fans, and 
> firmly believe that monitoring and normal maintenance are the BEST way to 
> prevent system down-time and assure everything continues to run smoothly.
>
> In the end, I will end up with four groups of clients.  In essence, they 
> are as follows:
>
> Service agreement clients: these are clients that are under a yearly 
> service agreement for XX hours per month at a discounted rate.  These 
> hours cover monitoring, normal monthly maintenance, and general onsite 
> support (planned and unplanned).  These clients are billed monthly for the 
> support, and are free to use the support hours as they see fit.  Any 
> overage of hours, as well as parts and materials, are billed the beginning 
> of the following month.
>
> Retainer agreement clients: much like the service agreement clients, 
> except they are not bound to a yearly agreement, but much like with a 
> lawyer they must carry a positive balance for their retainer account. 
> These clients also receive a discount as well as normal maintenance.  This 
> assures us that our services are covered.
>
> Call-before-service clients: these are clients that we call on a monthly 
> basis and notify them of work/maintenance/service that needs done (at 
> least that which we are aware of).  The client then has the ability to 
> agree or defer.  This is really intended for clients that realize they 
> need monthly maintenance but don't want to commit to anything.  There is 
> no discount for these clients, but they still receive regular monitoring 
> (daily reports, etc.) that will be billed monthly.
>
> The remaining clients will be under no agreements or obligations, will not 
> receive any discounts, and will not receive monitoring.  These clients 
> will be in 'reactive' mode only.  With luck we will not have any SBS 
> clients in this category (this should be reserved for our residential 
> clients!).
>
> As a side note, all of the above services are based on discounted hourly 
> rates, but the client still pays for what they use.  Therefore, I feel 
> okay with including the removal of spyware as the client is still paying 
> for this time and it would be in their best interest to prevent this 
> occurrence.  We also do our best to train our clients on how to prevent 
> this from happening.
>
> Sorry this post is so long, but hopefully it will help others.
>
> -TK
> M/T Box Computers
>
>
> "Rick F" <rick.REMOVE@rdfts.REMOVE.com> wrote in message 
> news:eHEFAoKLFHA.732@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>I personally would not include spyware cleanup as this could eat your 
>>lunch
>> unless the prerequisite was to purchase anti-spyware software (not the 
>> free
>> scan on-demand ones...something like CounterSpy). I have spent hours and
>> hours messing with spyware all because of users that have no concern what
>> they download and install (none of it ever has a business purpose). And
>> sometimes having to reformat and install everything back. I think you put
>> cleanup as a monthly routine, the owner is going to think, big deal about
>> spyware, Terry is going to clean it up for the same cost that I am 
>> already
>> paying him monthly. You charge him for spyware cleanup, his/her attitude
>> will change in regards to what their employees on putting on the 
>> computers.
>> What I have done, is have a seminar with all the employees AND BUSINESS
>> OWNERS to educate them on spyware which surprisingly helps more than you
>> think. But if a computer has spyware because of the actions of an
>> irresponsible employee, that is by the hour buddy. :-)
>>
>> Curious, what were you planning on charging for your service contact to 
>> do
>> this?
>>
>> -- 
>> Rick Faria - MCSE / A+
>> RDF Technical Services - www.rdfts.com
>> Email: support at rdfts dot com
>>
>>
>> "TK - M/T Box Computers" <terry@removethis.mtboxcomputers.com> wrote in 
>> message news:OvwsTY8KFHA.2648@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>> The backup logs and test restores are good, and as you mentioned should 
>>> be looked at.  I'm comfortable with the AV every 30 days because we have 
>>> Trend Micro at all of our SBS sites.  Basically this is just a look to 
>>> make sure things are still working correctly.  If virus activity were to 
>>> dramatically go up, we would receive an automatic email letting us know.
>>>
>>> Thanks for you input, and maybe with lots of input it will help all of 
>>> us with providing proactive service to our clients (or our own systems 
>>> for the business owners out there that monitor this NG).
>>>
>>> -TK
>>> M/T Box Computers
>>>
>>>
>>> <wedor> wrote in message news:uRKG0T8KFHA.2952@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>>> How about testing the back-up by restoring random files and checking 
>>>> the logs. I check the back-up logs daily.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know that I would want to wait a month to look at some things 
>>>> like A-V, a lot can happen in 30 days if someone's system isn't 
>>>> updating properly or the server program isn't functioning correctly
>>>>
>>>> I do updates when they come out, waiting doesn't always seem prudent.
>>>>
>>>> I think proactive is superior but it is difficult to sell to some 
>>>> clients as they just can't or won't see the advantage. I had a client 
>>>> who would have accused me of wasting their money if I patched for 
>>>> possible problems, they had no issue with paying me for emergency calls 
>>>> to fix the damage when they got hit by something that could have easily 
>>>> been prevented. I also find it easier to prevent than to try to clean 
>>>> up all the little odds and ends that keep popping up later if you don't 
>>>> find all of the damage right away.
>>>>
>>>> I forget which bug it was but in the summer of 2003 I patched most of 
>>>> my clients against a possible bug except the one that would have 
>>>> accused me of wasting thier money, they were the only company affected 
>>>> when it hit and paid far more to fix it then than they would have if I 
>>>> had patched them first, they never even consider the cost of downtime 
>>>> for their own employees.
>>>>
>>>> You can lead these people to logic but you can't manke them think.
>>>>
>>>> "TK - M/T Box Computers" <terry@removethis.mtboxcomputers.com> wrote in 
>>>> message news:%23w01XF8KFHA.2796@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>>> I'm working on a proposal for some of our SBS clients that are not 
>>>>> currently under a support agreement.  In the proposal I want to 
>>>>> outline some of the things that should be done on a consistent basis 
>>>>> to prevent/avoid small issues becoming major issues.  I was curious 
>>>>> how many of you simply respond to client issues as they arise, or how 
>>>>> many are proactively taking care of the client networks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ideally I would like to outline some of the services that should be 
>>>>> addressed on a monthly basis.  Some of the things I've listed are:
>>>>> Daily review of server performance reports and usage reports
>>>>> Monthly service packs/updates/security fixes on the servers and 
>>>>> workstations
>>>>> Monthly review of the server AV console (check for patterns, updates 
>>>>> are okay, etc.)
>>>>> Monthly checks/updates of antivirus software for all machines
>>>>> Monthly checks/cleanup of spyware / malware / adware for all 
>>>>> workstations
>>>>> Software updates and support as-needed (custom software like tax 
>>>>> programs, etc.)
>>>>> Hardware maintenance and cleanings (every 6 months, depending on 
>>>>> environment)
>>>>> Network security analysis (every 6 months)
>>>>> Intranet & website design and updates (as requested / needed)
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there anything else that some of you are doing that I have not 
>>>>> listed?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your input.
>>>>>
>>>>> -TK
>>>>> M/T Box Computers
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
> 


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