Re: 3x Branch Office - Only 1 Domain
From: Mike E. (mre_at_pidesign_nospamplease.co.uk)
Date: 02/22/05
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 19:00:57 -0000
OK Now fixed.
Have 3x domains in addition to the orignal domain as per Cris Hanna's
suggestion.
Regards
Mike E.
"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
<lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.atyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Mike E. wrote:
>> Cheers Lanwench for your reply.
>>
>> Yes it is one internet domain - they will only use one for Company
>> identity and at present we are using POP, I have the POP account
>> settings on the internet set to filter the email out for each office
>> which works fine.
>
> Ditch POP. You are adding an unneccessary layer of complexity, and one
> that
> is significantly more error-prone than direct SMTP delivery.
>>
>> Has to be SBS2003 as the bespoke software they use needs the full
>> feature set of SBS
>
> Meaning what, exactly? What does it do? What does it need?
>
>> (They way you have suggested would be better but is
>> not suitable in this case) and they are not small offices.
>
> If you don't have a small business, SBS is not for you. If you plan to run
> a
> single corporate organization, you want one AD domain with multiple sites.
> And if each site needs Exchange, you need regular Exchange installed
> there,
> too, in the same org. And still, all mail for mydomain.com should/will
> come
> into a single location & be distributed to the others in the Exchange
> organization after arrival.
>
>>
>> I have already setup the user accounts relevent to each office and set
>> "Forward all mail with unresolved recipients to host".
>>
>> This solves the problem of sending email to users at other offices
>> but also creates the problem as if an email comes in which also has an
>> address on it for another office the forward all email sends it off
>> again and again etc.
>
> I'm lost here....? Sorry - more detail might help.
>>
>> One way of fixing the problem I have thought of is to create accounts
>> for other users at the other offices on each local server
>> (there are only two or three at each office) and set a forwarder on
>> each account, then turn off
>> "Forward all mail with unresolved recipients to host".
>
> Ouch. Admin nightmare.
>>
>> But is there a better way of doing this ?
>
> Yes - use SBS in the headquarters (or regular Win2003/Exchange) and
> whatever
> you need in each site as I suggested. Or invest in a decent W2003 terminal
> server so your satellite offices connect to HQ only via that method and
> have
> nothing local except for their workstations (still recommend VPN site
> links).
>
> Your current/proposed setup is not ideal, and will not scale well - and I
> wouldn't want to be the admin responsible for it even as is, I have to
> say.
>
> Tell your management to repeat the following simple mantra:
>
> "Things Cost Money"
>
> Sad, but true.
>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>> Mike E.
>>
>>
>> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
>> <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.atyahoo.com> wrote in
>> message news:O39sOyCGFHA.3732@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>> Mike E. wrote:
>>>> Hi I have a client who has 3x Branch Offices with an SBS2003 Server
>>>> at each Office but only 1 Domain.
>>>
>>> I presume you mean, only one Internet domain. You can't have three
>>> SBS servers in a single AD domain. Terminology matters!
>>>>
>>>> The problem I have is that I have set the Exchange Server at each
>>>> office to forward email to the internet so that people
>>>> at each office can send emails to each other, the only problem with
>>>> this is if they send one email to several people i.e.
>>>> 1x internal email address and to external email addresses at the
>>>> different offices the email goes round and round the Servers
>>>> forever looking for external email addresses and they end up with
>>>> hundreds of emails, until I catch it and delete it.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a better way of configuring the system when there is only 1
>>>> domain shared between several different Servers ?
>>>
>>> Well, my first question is: how does mail come *in* to each of these
>>> servers
>>> from the Internet? Are you using the POP connector on each server?
>>>
>>> From a post by Javier Gomez a few posts later than you -
>>>
>>> Open ESM-> Right-click Virtual SMTP server-> Properties->
>>> Messages tab->
>>> Specify your ISP's SMTP mail server on the field "Forward all
>>> mail with unresolved recipients to host".
>>>
>>> You must make sure that in each location/on each SBS server, you
>>> have accounts & mailboxes *only* for the users in that particular
>>> office.
>>>
>>> My second question is: Why are there three SBS servers? Not the
>>> method I would have chosen.
>>>
>>> If these are small offices, I'd have a single Exchange server in
>>> the main office (running SBS or no) which receives all mail for
>>> mycompany.com via direct SMTP deliver (no POP).
>>> I'd set up VPN WAN links between each satellite office and the
>>> main office, and put another Win2003 DC in each office.
>>> I'd join all the remote computers to the single SBS AD domain.
>>> Then have the Outlook users in the remote offices use OL2003 and
>>> cached mode, and connect directly to the SBS/Exchange server across
>>> the WAN VPN link.
>>> If they need locally stored (and backed up) files in each office,
>>> they could use their local DC as a file/print server so they don't
>>> have to drag files back and forth over the VPN link.
>>>
>>> This is a *lot* less messy from an admin standpoint!
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mike E.
>
>
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