Re: Boot-up question on SBS2K3

From: Merv Porter [SBS-MVP] (mwport_at_no_spam_hotmail.com)
Date: 01/28/05


Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:13:00 -0500

What "upgrade diagrams"? I find it hard to belive that they want you to
plug your workstations directly into a router. Now, if you only had a
single NIC in the SBS that might be true. But the point behind using two
NICs is to separate the networks.

Is the following how your network is set up? If so, you're only using your
router as a hub to connect the workstations to the SBS server. With this
configuration and ISA set up correctly, you're protected but you would gain
an extra layer of security (and easier network troubleshooting) by replacing
the router with a switch and configuring the network as I detailed in my
last post.

Internet
|
DSL Modem
|
SBS External NIC
||
SBS Internal NIC
|
Router
| | | | | | |
Workstations

The reason for your slow network access with this setup may be that the ISA
LAT isn't set up properly.

-- 
Merv  Porter  [SBS MVP]
===================================
"Torrey Lauer" <torrey@nospam.moderntravel.net> wrote in message
news:e49A6xNBFHA.1404@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Sorry Merv, but I still don't understand why it has to be setup that way.
> Why is it better or why should it be setup that way?
>
> The upgrade diagrams that came with SBS2K3 Premium show the way I have it
> setup as correct.
>
> This is why I'm confused.
>
> -- 
> Torrey Lauer
> Modern Travel Services
> www.nospam.moderntravel.net
> "Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" <mwport@no_spam_hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ehb5SfNBFHA.1656@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > As the diagram shows:
> >
> > Internet
> > |
> > DSL Modem
> > |
> > Router
> > |
> > SBS External NIC
> > ||
> > SBS Internal NIC
> > |
> > Switch (hub)
> > |  |  |  |  |  |  |
> > Workstations
> >
> >
> > The router separates you from the Internet.  It has a WAN side (public)
> > and
> > a LAN side (private).  In addition, for better security, you want to
> > separate your internal private network (SBS LAN) from your external
> > private
> > network (the LAN side of router).  Your external networks consists of
your
> > SBS external NIC, the router and DSL modem.  Your internal networks
> > contains
> > the SBS internal NIC, the switch (or hub) and your workstations.  The
> > external network is in a different subnet (different IP address scheme;
> > 192.168.x.y  - x being anything but 16 in this example) from your LAN
> > (default is 192.168.16.x).  This provides the additional security
because
> > incoming traffic has to be authenticated to cross from the external
> > (router-external NIC) network to your internal (SBS LAN) network.
> >
> > Both internal and external networks are "private" and anything beyond
them
> > (on the WAN side of your router) is public - exposed to the Internet.
> >
> >
> > -- 
> > Merv  Porter  [SBS MVP]
> > ===================================
> >
> >
> > "Torrey Lauer" <torrey@nospam.moderntravel.net> wrote in message
> > news:uGxxGMNBFHA.824@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> >> Okay, maybe I'm confused, but how I have the network setup right now is
> > how
> >> I had it setup with SBS2K.
> >>
> >> Isn't the cable modem supposed to go into one nic and then all the
> >> workstations go into a router or hub and then connect to the second
nic?
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> Torrey Lauer
> >> Modern Travel Services
> >> www.nospam.moderntravel.net
> >> "Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" <mwport@no_spam_hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:%23vQ9N$MBFHA.1992@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> >> > Looks like you've got your network misconfigured.   The external NIC
> >> > should
> >> > go to the router, not the internal.  It should also be assigned an IP
> >> > in
> >> > the
> >> > same range as the router.
> >> >
> >> > Since you have a router in the system, set up your network according
to
> >> > the
> >> > diagram at:  (ignore the text as that is for SBS 2000):
> >> > http://www.smallbizserver.net/Default.aspx?tabid=50
> >> >
> >> > -- 
> >> > Merv  Porter  [SBS MVP]
> >> > ===================================
> >> > "Torrey Lauer" <torrey@nospam.moderntravel.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:eGQBlzMBFHA.2676@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >> >> Merv,
> >> >>
> >> >> 2 Nics, broadband cable modem connected into the external NIC,
> >> >> internal
> >> > NIC
> >> >> to router, SBS Premium.
> >> >>
> >> >> Here's the ipconfig /all:
> >> >>
> >> >> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : sbserver
> >> >>  Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . : moderntravel.local
> >> >>  Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
> >> >>  IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
> >> >>  WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
> >> >>  DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : moderntravel.local
> >> >>                                      wi.rr.com
> >> >>
> >> >> hernet adapter Server Local Area Connection:
> >> >>
> >> >>  Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
> >> >>  Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NETGEAR GA311 Gigabit Adapter
> >> >>  Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-09-5B-8D-A7-84
> >> >>  DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> >> >>  IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.100
> >> >>  Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> >> >>  Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
> >> >>  DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.100
> >> >>  Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.100
> >> >>
> >> >> hernet adapter Network Connection:
> >> >>
> >> >>  Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : wi.rr.com
> >> >>  Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com 3C905TX-based Ethernet
> > Adapter
> >> >> c)
> >> >>  Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-60-08-08-9E-86
> >> >>  DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
> >> >>  Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> >> >>  IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 24.160.244.28
> >> >>  Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.248.0
> >> >>  Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 24.160.240.1
> >> >>  DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.48.144.1
> >> >>  DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.16.100
> >> >>  NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
> >> >>  Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, January 27, 2005
> >> >> 5:29:24
> > P
> >> >>  Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Friday, January 28, 2005
5:07:56
> > PM
> >> >>
> >> >> -- 
> >> >> Torrey Lauer
> >> >> Modern Travel Services
> >> >> www.nospam.moderntravel.net
> >> >> "Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" <mwport@no_spam_hotmail.com> wrote in
message
> >> >> news:O5L%23juMBFHA.2196@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> >> >> > May be a DNS issue.  Can you post an ipconfig /all for us to look
> >> >> > at?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 2 Nics?
> >> >> > Router?
> >> >> > SBS Premium or Standard?
> >> >> > Broadband Internet connection?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > -- 
> >> >> > Merv  Porter  [SBS MVP]
> >> >> > ===================================
> >> >> > "Torrey Lauer" <torrey@nospam.moderntravel.net> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:ORJPIsMBFHA.4004@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >> >> >> I know I'm asking a lot of questions, and I hope all of you will
> > bear
> >> >> >> with
> >> >> >> me while I get the little "things" worked out in SBS2K3.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> The problem is this.  When the server reboots, it gets to the
part
> >> > where
> >> >> > it
> >> >> >> "connects the network" or something like that (I can't remember
the
> >> > exact
> >> >> >> message), but it takes five minutes for that step.  In SBS2K, it
> > would
> >> > be
> >> >> > on
> >> >> >> that step for MAYBE 30 seconds.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Is there something that I need to modify for this step to go
> >> >> >> faster?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> -- 
> >> >> >> Torrey Lauer
> >> >> >> Modern Travel Services
> >> >> >> www.nospam.moderntravel.net
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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>


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