Re: SBS 2003 mail retention - does it include deleted spam?

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From: Terry Dansey (nospamthankstdansey_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 01/22/05


Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:59:49 -0000

Thanks Les.

It all started originally with one of our clients who we took over,
converted to SBS 2003 and found that some of the users already had 3Gb+
mailboxes and 3Gb+ of files, so suddenly they found synchronisation and
started moving things over and the 72Gb of storage that looked fine (i.e.3
times what they had on their previous server) on day -1 suddenly has become
a little on the small side.

I am just trying to work out exactly what counts against what allocation.

Time for pencil and paper + calculator methinks.

Thanks again - Terry

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"Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]" <les.connor@DEL.cfive.ca> 
wrote in message news:uImsPuKAFHA.3596@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> I'd say ixnay on spam alltogether, keep it out of the store - 
> even/especially a public folder. Don't waste your resources on spam, that 
> is the objective.
>
> Do use a product like IMF or eManager (part of Trend C/S/M SMB), and do 
> set the AD filter in Exchange. Preserving spam somewhere on your system so 
> that you might be able to recover the 1% of false positives that might 
> exist in a properly configured anti spam solution is a terrible waste of 
> resources, IMO. Both system resources and human resources - somebody has 
> to sift through all that crap if it's archived, or what's the point of 
> archiving it ?
>
> -- 
> Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]
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> SBS Rocks !
>
>
> "Terry Dansey" <nospamthankstdansey@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
> news:uDAwclKAFHA.4044@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> Thanks - that what I thought. The postmaster account needs to be 
>> carefully thought out.
>>
>> You could create a DOS (Denial of Service) by feeding sufficient spam 
>> with attachments in it and the receiving exchange server would come to a 
>> halt even though you were deleting them.
>>
>> GFI as far as I know adds the detected spam mail into a subdirectory 
>> called spam and I am deleting about 400 messages a day that it is 
>> ctahcing.
>>
>> Retained messages set to 180 days... this could be fun.
>>
>> So if the 2Gb mailbox limit includes the deleted messages, the only way 
>> to back out of this when it grinds to a halt is to reduce the retention 
>> day setting so that it trims it down?
>>
>> Hmmm, it sound like spam should be saved to a public folder and deleted 
>> from there maybe?
>>
>> Thanks - Terry
>>
>>
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>> "Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]" <les.connor@DEL.cfive.ca> 
>> wrote in message news:Oy1sPfJAFHA.3664@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi Terry,
>>>
>>> Anti-Spam measures at the exchange or gateway level are recommended. 
>>> IMF, for example, can remove the spam prior to it getting into the mail 
>>> stores. Any decent third party anti spam application will do the same.
>>>
>>> If your anti spam measures are at the mailbox level - meaning each user 
>>> deals with it himself, then the spam is part of your mail store.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]
>>> -----------------------------------------------------------
>>> SBS Rocks !
>>>
>>>
>>> "Terry Dansey" <nospamthankstdansey@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
>>> news:OCJ3j4GAFHA.2112@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hi all.
>>>>
>>>> If you set Exchange to retain mail after deletion, does that also 
>>>> include mail that has been deemed as SPAM?
>>>>
>>>> If so, then whoever is working as the SPAM administrator is going to 
>>>> get a lot of messages that they delete but will become part of the 
>>>> retained store.
>>>>
>>>> Is it better that a separate account is set up so that the mailbox can 
>>>> be deleted and purged every so often?
>>>>
>>>> We have been telling clients to opt for larger hard drives, but when we 
>>>> make the calculations of how large the drives ought to be we tend to 
>>>> look at files and possible email usage into the future, but if we are 
>>>> using shadow copies, retaining deleted mail and versions of files, has 
>>>> anyone worked out roughly what extra this adds to the necessary 
>>>> capacity?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks - Terry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
> 


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