Re: Setting up client computers after SBS 2003 install
From: Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP] (les.connor_at_DEL.cfive.ca)
Date: 01/22/05
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Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:05:36 -0600
what SG said, and ....
You can fix what you have, it's just going to involve a singificant number
of manual configuraiton adjustments. Adjustments that wouldn't be required
had the initial install taken a different tack. But if you're not in a
position to take another run at it with a new installation, so be it.
But I'm suspecting you're going to need some help. Done via the newsgroup,
back and forth, it's not going to be an efficient process, but it can be
done. You can help yourself, though. Being a member of the
smallbizserver.net group is great, but that isn't going to cut it - look at
the diagram on the site; use it to configure your network. This is step
one - you can't build on a faulty foundation and expect anything but
frustration.
-- Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP] ----------------------------------------------------------- SBS Rocks ! "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <not@your.nellie> wrote in message news:uRb1VJBAFHA.2584@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... > No, the NIC properties show whether the NIC is acting as a DHCP client. We > want: > > to persuade you to move to a 2 NIC setup on the SBS, where your 'internal' > NIC will have manually set IP information, and it really doesn't matter > whether your 'external' NIC is manual or DHCP assigned (from the router) > (actually, if you make resources available from outside it's better to use > a manual setting, sortta depends on how your router handle forwarding > too). > > and to allow the DHCP and DNS services on SBS to handle their > responsibilities. The great majority of network related issues are due to > moving these functions off SBS. (these are 'server' rather than 'client' > components) > > "roger" <rogersrd@tds.net> wrote in message > news:unbMB5AAFHA.2608@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... >> So because the network adapters are not showing that DHCP is enabled, >> even >> tho in the services it shows that DHCP is enabled and working, I am out >> of >> luck? And because of this, I need to completely reinstall SBC2003? Just >> making sure. >> Yes I am a member of the www.smallbizserver.net group. There is also a >> YAHOO group that I have looked at. >> Thanks >> Roger >> >> "Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]" <les.connor@DEL.cfive.ca> >> wrote in message news:Oj09Xp$$EHA.3820@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... >>> Hey, don't get down on yourself. Using the router for dhcp and the ISP >>> for >>> DNS is standard fare for peer-to-peer, and it takes a mighty shove, when >>> there is so much that is new and changed, to completely abandon what >> worked >>> before ;-). >>> >>> If there's a DHCP server running when SBS is installed, the SBS dhcp >>> isn't >>> configured. Regarding DNS, it can't work correctly if the ISP dns server >> is >>> referenced; the SBS server is the DNS server for the internal doman, and >>> only if it can't resolve the request (as in an external resource >>> request), >>> is it passed on to the ISPs DNS servers via forwarding. >>> >>> So, did you have a look at http://www.smallbizserver.net ? >>> >>> -- >>> Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP] >>> ----------------------------------------------------------- >>> SBS Rocks ! >>> >>> >>> "roger" <rogersrd@tds.net> wrote in message >>> news:uc6$ri$$EHA.3236@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... >>> > Not exactly what I wanted to hear. I am not sure what I did wrong. I >>> > installed the software, inputed the misc variables that I needed too. >>> > I >>> > checked into the router if it was a DHCP server, and it was, so I >> disabled >>> > it, turned off the router, restarted the server, and then turned on >>> > the >>> > router. I thought of that because I was getting error messages on the >>> > server that DHCP was disabled. The server does have 2 internal, >>> > onboard >>> > NIC's and I was going to use both of them, 1 into the hub, and 1 into >> the >>> > router, but have not done that as of yet. As far as using my router >>> > as >>> > the >>> > DHCP server, it is a LinkSys, I went into the config. of it and it >>> > still >>> > says that it is disabled. But yet is says in the server ethernet >> adapter >>> > config, it says that DHCP is not enabled. I am not sure what it going >> on. >>> > You are right, setting it up was really easy, so I thought, but I must >>> > have >>> > done something. >>> > Thanks >>> > Roger >>> > >>> > "Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]" >>> > <les.connor@DEL.cfive.ca> >>> > wrote in message news:#Voa8S$$EHA.4044@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... >>> >> Roger, >>> >> >>> >> Unfortunately you have dug yourself a hole here, and I'm not sure >>> >> what >>> >> the >>> >> best way out would be at this point. The root cause is that your >> network >>> > is >>> >> not configured correctly; this results in connectcomputer (and other >>> > things) >>> >> not working, which has caused you to bypass the wizards, which meahs >> that >>> >> you are not going to get the good stuff that SBS should be providing. >>> >> >>> >> You have broken some dns rules, and are following some practices >>> >> (such >> as >>> >> single nic, and using your router for DHCP) that just aren't in your >> best >>> >> interests. Is there any chance you can start over ? You can fix up >>> >> what >>> > you >>> >> have, but it's a bit of a trek - and if you start things out on the >> right >>> >> foot and let SBS do it's thing it's sooooo easy :-). >>> >> >>> >> Have a look at http://www.smallbizserver.net in the networking >>> >> section, >>> > for >>> >> examples of how to set up your network. >>> >> >>> >> I'd recommend two_nics_and_a_router; you already have everything >>> >> except >>> > the >>> >> second nic, and that's a very minor investment to make towards a very >>> >> resilient system. >>> >> >>> >> Note that you can go single nic, some recommend it in fact - (but not >>> >> me). >>> >> If you elect to go the single nic method, one of the proponents of >>> >> that >>> >> configuration will certainly assist you. >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP] >>> >> ----------------------------------------------------------- >>> >> SBS Rocks ! >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> "roger" <rogersrd@tds.net> wrote in message >>> >> news:uIndzz%23$EHA.960@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... >>> >> > Well, I finally got these computers to be connected to the SBS 2003 >>> > domain >>> >> > name, I did it the old fashion way, went the the system properties >>> > instead >>> >> > of using the "wizard". Now the only problem is: >>> >> > Now I log into the workstation using the network user name and >>> >> > domain >>> >> > name. >>> >> > When I first did that, it created a new profile. So then I logged >>> >> > in >>> >> > as >>> >> > administrator of both the workstation and the network user name so >> that >>> > I >>> >> > could copy the profile of the original user name to the profile of >> the >>> > new >>> >> > user name with the SBS 2003 domain. Before we had no network. I >>> >> > go >>> > into >>> >> > System --> user profiles --> select a profile --> click on "copy >>> > to" --> >>> >> > click on "permitted to use" --> but it will not find the SBS2003 >> domain >>> >> > name, only the local user domain name. >>> >> > Got any ideas? >>> >> > Here is the IPCONFIG /ALL from the server: >>> >> > Windows IP Configuration >>> >> > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : srd-server >>> >> > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : SRD.local >>> >> > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown >>> >> > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes >>> >> > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes >>> >> > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : SRD.local >>> >> > >>> >> > Ethernet adapter Server Local Area Connection: >>> >> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : >>> >> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Network >>> > Adapter >>> >> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-30-48-73-C9-D8 >>> >> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No >>> >> > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 >>> >> > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 >>> >> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 >>> >> > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 204.246.1.20 >>> >> > 204.70.128.1 >>> >> > Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2 >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > And from the workstation >>> >> > Windows IP Configuration >>> >> > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Jason >>> >> > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : SRD.local >>> >> > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed >>> >> > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >>> >> > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No >>> >> > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : SRD.local >>> >> > Ethernet adapter Network Bridge (Network Bridge): >>> >> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : >>> >> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : MAC Bridge Miniport >>> >> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : F2-34-FF-2F-F3-E6 >>> >> > Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No >>> >> > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.20 >>> >> > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 >>> >> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 >>> >> > 192.168.1.2 >>> >> > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 204.246.1.20 >>> >> > 207.70.128.1 >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > "Roger" <cadmanroger@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >>> >> > news:w6XHd.237$Wh2.235@fe06.lga... >>> >> >> I am in central time. I will have these answers when I make it to >>> >> >> that >>> >> >> office tomorrow at 7 am. I will post then. >>> >> >> Thanks >>> >> >> Roger >>> >> >> >>> >> >> "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" >>> > <crisnospamhanna@computingnospampossibilities.net> >>> >> >> wrote in message news:%23%23RTLjz$EHA.1340@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... >>> >> >> > Roger >>> >> >> > We also need to see the IPconfig /all from the server and from >>> >> >> > workstations. >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > -- >>> >> >> > Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP] >>> >> >> > --------------------------------------- >>> >> >> > Please reply only to the newsgroup and not to me directly so >>> >> >> > that >>> >> > everyone >>> >> >> > can benefit from the information >>> >> >> > "Roger" <cadmanroger@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >>> >> >> > news:etUHd.208$zZ7.87@fe06.lga... >>> >> >> >> Yes I have. >>> >> >> >> I have completed the "To Do List" on the server. All users, >>> >> >> >> mailboxes, >>> >> >> >> computer setups are done. >>> >> >> >> I am at a different location today, so I do not have access to >> the >>> >> > error >>> >> >> >> message that I was getting, but I am going to be there tomorrow >> to >>> > try >>> >> > to >>> >> >> >> figure out why the typical "http://(name of >> server)/connectcomputer >>> > is >>> >> >> >> not working. I will post again if I cannot figure it out and >> give >>> > the >>> >> >> >> error message. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> Thanks >>> >> >> >> Roger >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> "Cris Hanna [SBS-MVP]" >>> >> > <crisnospamhanna@computingnospampossibilities.net> >>> >> >> >> wrote in message news:ul3yOry$EHA.1404@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... >>> >> >> >>> Have you created the users and computers using the wizards >>> >> >> >>> from >>> >> >> >>> the >>> >> >> >>> Server Management console?? >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> -- >>> >> >> >>> Cris Hanna [SBS - MVP] >>> >> >> >>> --------------------------------------- >>> >> >> >>> Please reply only to the newsgroup and not to me directly so >> that >>> >> >> >>> everyone can benefit from the information >>> >> >> >>> "Roger" <cadmanroger@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >>> >> >> >>> news:nqTHd.1054$Zw6.698@fe03.lga... >>> >> >> >>>>I have just finished setting up a 10-user SBS 2003 computer. >>> >> >> >>>>I >>> > have >>> >> >> >>>>above average knowledge on workstations but little on servers. >>> >> >> >>>>According to the help support from the software, I need to go >>> >> >> >>>>to >>> > each >>> >> >> >>>>workstation, go into IE, and go to "http://(name of >>> >> >> >>>>server)/connectcomputer" >>> >> >> >>>> Then I click on the link and it will "try" to set up that >>> >> > workstation. >>> >> >> >>>> It tries to go thru the process but gives me an error. >>> >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> >>>> Does anybody have a procedure document that would be willing >>> >> >> >>>> to >>> >> >> >>>> share >>> >> >> >>>> on how to setup workstations using Windows XP Pro and >> connecting >>> > to >>> >> >> >>>> a >>> >> >> >>>> SBS2003 server? >>> >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> >>>> Thanks in advance >>> >> >> >>>> Roger >>> >> >> >>>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >> >> > >
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