Re: Help! Need to sell my company on Exchange!
From: Eric Torstenson (etorst_at_oti-hsv.com)
Date: 01/07/05
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Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 15:06:26 -0600
There is a program called Fetchmail which will download pop mail onto a
linux box. You could
then forward that mail to your exchange server. Last I knew, there would
have to be a
file that had the passwords in it, so, you would either have to reassign
those pop mail
passwords, or have each user update the file (it might even be plain
text....) I suspect you
could configure fetchmail to download mail as often as 1 or 5 minutes (I
don't remember)
I believe fetchmail comes with a generic fedora install.
This isn't really very much on topic, but installing an IMAP linux box is
very easy, these days. Getting
it to authenticate from your windows box is more challenging, but not
impossible.
If your boss is anti-exchange, your could at least host IMAP locally.....
eric
"Jayson Avner" <garion1138@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:%23S2%23pnP9EHA.3260@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Good suggestion Eric - I'm pretty sure I could, but what I'm trying to
> achieve is more "instanteous" email - with the built-in POP connector, the
> maximum rate at which it can download mail is every 15 minutes, which is
> something I'd like to avoid.
>
> However, that would certainly save on bandwidth - instead of roughly 15
> seperate POP/SMTP connections (one for each of my users) ever few minutes,
> there'd only be one.
>
> I'm aware that there are some 3rd-party "check for POP mail every 30
> seconds" apps out there, but I'm too used to "always-on" Exchange
installs,
> you know?
>
> Thanks for the help! I appreciate it.
> Jayson
>
> "Eric Torstenson" <etorst@oti-hsv.com> wrote in message
> news:eo$Ay7O9EHA.3320@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > Can you not use the POP download feature for getting the mail into the
> > system? I guess
> > if they have IMAP server problems, the POP server would be similarly
> > affected, but, at
> > least it would only affect new mail during their downtimes....
> >
> > You could probably set it up so that some users continued to check the
ISP
> > for
> > email and others could get their mail from your Exchange Svr.
> >
> > eric
> >
> > "Jayson Avner" <garion1138@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> > news:eXH92rO9EHA.2180@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> >> That was actually my first approach - use our current ISP as a
smarthost;
> >> however, my boss is pretty good friends with our ISP admin (Bob) and he
> >> doesn't allow relaying. Period. Bob hates Exchange users for some
reason,
> >> and that attitude is probably where my boss gets it.
> >>
> >> As for Spam, I've found Exchange and Outlook 2003s built-in
functionality
> > to
> >> be quite good, but even if its not, you're absolutely right -
Symantec's
> >> product is really good, and I would probably use it if it came to that.
> >>
> >> Anyway, I'm probably fighting an uphill battle. The only other option I
> > have
> >> is to create some kind of PowerPoint presentation and use
marketing-speak
> > to
> >> turn the execs into glossy-eyed zombies (or as I like to call it, the
> >> Jedi
> >> mind-trick), or use a laptop with VirtualPC as some kind of mock
Exchange
> >> Environment...but I'll probably just be spinning my wheels.
> >>
> >> Its funny - I reccomend Exchange and all the things it can do to my
> > clients
> >> (I do consulting work on the side for small law firms and the like -
use
> > SBS
> >> constantly, I love it), and they're instantly on board and extremely
> >> happy
> >> with the results.
> >>
> >> To give you an idea: "group collaboration" at my office means "go write
> >> it
> >> on that small white board in the corner of the office."
> >>
> >> *sigh*
> >>
> >> Thanks for your suggestion, Reiper. I appreciate it!
> >>
> >> Jayson
> >>
> >> "Reiper" <nobody@madeup.com> wrote in message
> >> news:u$pxgcO9EHA.3624@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> >> >I agree, the SBS 2003 server would help you on a lot of the issues.
You
> >> >might check with your ISP to see if they'll do Spam filtering before
> >> >forwarding messages to the Exchange Server. I believe (not having
done
> >> >this) that it can be done since my ISP claims they can do it??? If
not
> >> >there are third party software that will attach to Exchange Server and
> >> >filter Spam messages. We have Symantec Mail Security and you could go
> > nuts
> >> >building all sorts of Spam filters...
> >> >
> >> > Anyway, let us know how it turns out!
> >> >
> >> > "Jayson Avner" <garion1138@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:u2p0GSO9EHA.3828@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >> >> Hi everyone,
> >> >>
> >> >> I've been a lurker for several months now, and I have to start by
> > saying
> >> >> that these posts have helped me more times than I care to count. So
> >> >> thanks
> >> >> to all!
> >> >>
> >> >> At the moment I work full-time for a nutritional supplement company
> > north
> >> >> of
> >> >> San Francisco. We're a small business (not using SBS for reasons I
> > can't
> >> >> quite comprehend) with 15 users.
> >> >>
> >> >> And sadly, we're using SMTP and IMAP accounts from our ISP for our
> >> >> "messaging system."
> >> >>
> >> >> The IMAP accounts fail on a regular basis, so the employees that use
> > them
> >> >> must remove the box from Outlook and remap the account daily.
> > Interoffice
> >> >> messaging is, naturally, a joke. It probably shouldn't even be
> > considered
> >> >> "interoffice," given that every email has to travel outside the
> >> >> company
> >> >> network to get from one desk to another.
> >> >>
> >> >> My boss and several other company executives constantly complain
about
> >> >> lack
> >> >> of communication, yet despite my constantly extolling the virtues of
> >> >> Exchange via emails, during meetings, and informal talks with other
> >> >> employees, my boss won't let me implement it. It's not even a money
or
> >> >> hardware issue - we've got all that covered.
> >> >>
> >> >> Mostly, he says he doesn't want Exchange for fear of spam.
Apparently,
> >> >> our
> >> >> ISP uses a great filter...so good, in fact, that most of our
employees
> >> >> regularly miss emails from customers and suppliers because they are
> >> >> mistakenly flagged as Spam and never reach their Outlook inbox.
> >> >>
> >> >> So, because my boss apparently does not care about centralized email
> >> >> backups, how much shared calendars can help keep everyone on track
and
> >> >> informed, how public folders would probably be better than the
> > rediculous
> >> >> web-based message board application we just wrote (and now he wants
to
> >> >> add a
> >> >> feature that will let people email important message board posts to
> > other
> >> >> employees...as if that doesn't defeat the point and lend my argument
> >> >> about
> >> >> *just using Exchange* a lot of credit), we still won't do it.
> >> >>
> >> >> To cut this already-too-lengthy message short, I'm trying to find
> > advice
> >> >> on
> >> >> how to sell my company on Exchange. To me, Exchange is 3/4 of the
> > reason
> >> >> to
> >> >> even *have* a network in the first place.
> >> >>
> >> >> Anyway, if someone could offer some advice, I'd be forever grateful.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks for your time,
> >> >> Jayson
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
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