Re: how do I change the user install wizard to create user folder in different location?

From: Alan Drown (adrown_at_NOSPAMsigmalan.com)
Date: 12/16/04 

Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 15:19:07 -0800

got it.

I wasnt adding the \sharepoint at the end of the servername.......

thanks again.

:)

"Alan Drown" <adrown@NOSPAMsigmalan.com> wrote in message
news:elq2yN84EHA.3376@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> LOL!
> Thanks Les!
> Dont get me wrong, I appreciate the wizards for certain, especially since
> I'm not an expert and there is a lot of complexity involved with SBS 2003.
> The part that concerns me is when things dont go right I dont know what's
> going on under the hood to fix them.
>
> Regarding SQL and Sharepoint,
> thanks for the info, I'll double check in the compnay web.
> The last step, is what concerns me .... step 11, in "To install SP3a to
> the SHAREPOINT instance of SQL Server" in the premiuminstallsetups.htm
> file where I'm suppose to register the SHAREPOINT instance of SQL Server
> within the Enterprise Manager.
> It doesnt seem to find SQL server running on this system so I dont have
> the ability to manage the SQL database from within Enteprise Manager.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Les Connor [SBS Community Member]" <les.connor@DEL.cfive.ca> wrote in
> message news:%23QxLr674EHA.3820@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> Your setup looks fine to me.
>>
>> Some people read the instructions in such a way that they install both a
>> new instance of sql, plus upgrade the sharepoint instance. That's fine,
>> but you don't need the new instance if you're not going to use it. That's
>> probably what you see on your other box.
>>
>> In any case, if you followed the directions, and your companyweb has the
>> search box, you did it right. If search doesn' work, you still did it
>> right but just didn't finish reading the instructions - there's a
>> sharepoint configuration to enable search to function.
>>
>> On the other topic: Never slight the SBS wizards. If you want to keep
>> doing things the hard way, and banging your head against the wall, then
>> go ahead and ignore them. If you want to find out why you should use them
>> (especially if you think you shoudn't), then don't use them and you will
>> find out the hard way.
>>
>> People who have never actually configured and run all of this stuff on
>> one box before can't imagine how important the wizards are nor what they
>> do. People who have tried to run all this on one box before, appreciate
>> the complexity and functionality of the wizards. The wizards *are* what
>> defines SBS and makes it what it is.
>>
>> If you want the full product, use the wizards. You are not smarter than
>> they are. If you don't use the wizards, don't whine when things don't
>> seem to be working. Got it ? ;-).
>>
>> (you have heard the 'what's that noise' story about the woodcutters and
>> chainsaws, right ?)
>>
>> --
>> Les Connor [SBS Community Member]
>> -----------------------------------------------------------
>> SBS Rocks !
>>
>>
>> "Alan Drown" <adrown@NOSPAMsigmalan.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23PDcmu74EHA.4040@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>> Yes, I'm starting to get a lot of practice... :)
>>>
>>> Relying on the wizards to do things seems to be more of a crutch because
>>> then you really dont know whats going on under the hood. Depending on
>>> the environment the wizards also seem cause some havoc.
>>>
>>> FYI, I reinstalled from scratch using the Dell OpenManage Server
>>> Assistant so all my drivers automatically loaded automatically. This
>>> part seemed tp worked fine. During the initial ServerAssistant Setup it
>>> also asks for some initial information like DNS, DOMAIN, license key,
>>> etc.. to automate the SBS asetup.
>>>
>>> On to new challenges! :)
>>>
>>> SQL 2000 and Sharepoint.
>>>
>>> I decided to load SQL 2000 from the premium CD after all was up and
>>> running.
>>>
>>>
>>> I followed the directions of updating an existing MSDE installation,
>>> selecting the SHAREPOINT instance and not SBSMONITORING per the
>>> instructions
>>> I loaded SP3 and did the same thing, also selecting full text searching
>>> and monitoring tools .
>>>
>>>
>>> It loaded without any errors.
>>> I'm uncertain whether it's running with SQL server as its backend or
>>> still using the MSDE engine.
>>>
>>> I'm not able to open SQL server from Enterprise Manager
>>> Maybe I should have done an update and should have done a new instance
>>> of SQL server???
>>>
>>> In add/remove programs I find the the following relevant programs
>>> installed:
>>> Micorosft SQL Server 2000 (SHAREPOINT)
>>> Microsoft SQL Server Desktop Engine (SBSMONITORING)
>>> Microsoft Windows SharePoint Services 2.0
>>>
>>> If I look at the services that are running on the SBS box :
>>>
>>> MSSQL$SBSMONITORING
>>> MSSQL$SHAREPOINT both are started and setup to run Automatically
>>>
>>> Also in services I see :( dont know if these need to be running or not)
>>> SQLAgent$SBSMONITORING
>>> SQLAgent$SHAREPOINT
>>>
>>> only SBSMONITORING is running though they're both setup to run
>>> automatically.
>>>
>>> When I look on a different server running 2003 server with SQL 2000,
>>> I see these services up an running
>>> MSQL$DATABASENAME
>>> MSQLSERVER
>>>
>>> How come I'm not seeing MSQLSERVER running on the SBS box?
>>> SQL enterprise manager doesnt recognize that SQL is running on the
>>> system locallly . I tried to register the server by name or by local
>>> name and either it thinks SQL isnt installed or or it doesnt have
>>> privilages to open it. Is it because its looking for the MSQLSERVER
>>> process and not finding it?
>>>
>>> If I look at the services running I dont see MSQLSERVER like I do on
>>> another install which is on just Windows 2003 server and SQL2000
>>>
>>> Should I have done an update or a new install of SQL 2000?
>>> Is this why I cant open it in the Enterprise Manager for SQL?
>>> Should I be able to manage the database from Enterprise Manager for SQL?
>>>
>>> Any help would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>>
>>> "Les Connor [SBS Community Member]" <les.connor@DEL.cfive.ca> wrote in
>>> message news:eVrab334EHA.1596@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>> Yeah .... you do get the opportunity to specify location for all data
>>>> folders during the integrated install. It isn't obvious on your first
>>>> go-around, because the data files location window comes after the
>>>> program files window ...
>>>>
>>>> Data file locations specified in the setup is a much more efficient way
>>>> of organizing, compared to moving everything after the fact. This is
>>>> one of the many small details that one learns by doing test installs -
>>>> and an example of why it might take say 3 installs to get one that you
>>>> really like and will use for production.
>>>>
>>>> Folks that do this for a living have an obvious advantage, the
>>>> installation and configuration is well practiced. Everybody has had
>>>> their first install sometime - just don't get your expectations out of
>>>> line. Those that expect the first, the one and only, installation to do
>>>> the job are generally setting themselves up for dissapointment and
>>>> frustration.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Les Connor [SBS Community Member]
>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------
>>>> SBS Rocks !
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Alan Drown" <adrown@NOSPAMsigmalan.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:eE9L5Yx4EHA.4008@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>>>>I decided it just meant the program files and thought/hoped it would
>>>>>ask me location of data folders ..
>>>>> and low and behold IT DID!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I LIKE when things do what you they they should!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> :)
>>>>>
>>>>> "Alan Drown" <adrown@NOSPAMsigmalan.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:eS%239eJx4EHA.2964@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Hi Les,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well.... It may have, I didnt get to the point of actually adding
>>>>>> additional users to find out.
>>>>>> I decided to rebuild the system. I thought it would be good to be
>>>>>> familiar with this systems nuances now than later.
>>>>>> I had been debating on rebuilding from scratch and then I started
>>>>>> having problem logging in and noticed
>>>>>> upon reboot earlier today it took forever to log into the sysetm . I
>>>>>> looked at the log and there were some strange errors that just
>>>>>> started cropping up yesterday stating
>>>>>> "Windows cannot access the file gpt.ini for GPO
>>>>>> CN={31B2F340-016D-11D2-945 blah blah blah......
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> that kind of sealed the rebuild decision.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> just a little background....
>>>>>> I think I probably created the problem but it's funny that it took so
>>>>>> long to crop up. Originally, I had two interfaces configured and then
>>>>>> decided for migration purposes it would be easier to just have one
>>>>>> interface active since this system isnt in production yet. I
>>>>>> disabled the interfaces and didnt rerun the ICW. After the fact I
>>>>>> reran the ICW to let it know it only had one interface but I still
>>>>>> had the latency problems at login and the above error in the
>>>>>> application log...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So that said,
>>>>>> I'm at the screen in the install process where it wants to know what
>>>>>> applications and tools to install.
>>>>>> I have the option of changing the path here but this looks like for
>>>>>> the applications themselves.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I want the various data files to live some where else, is this
>>>>>> where I do it or will I have the opportunity to tell it later on in
>>>>>> the installation where the data is to reside - i.e Exchange
>>>>>> transaction Logs on D, Information stores on E.?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Les Connor [SBS Community Member]" <les.connor@DEL.cfive.ca> wrote
>>>>>> in message news:uD$1MYv4EHA.2288@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Hi Alan,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you followed the document, then the wizard knows already ;-).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (because the name and permissions for the 'Users' share are
>>>>>>> re-created, that's all the wizard needs)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is it not working correctly ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Les Connor [SBS Community Member]
>>>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> SBS Rocks !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Alan Drown" <adrown@NOSPAMsigmalan.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:%23KhSkpu4EHA.2192@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Les Connor provided info on migrating the various data folders to a
>>>>>>>> new location , thank you very much, but I was wondering if someone
>>>>>>>> could tell me how to change the add user wizard to create user
>>>>>>>> folders in the new location rather than the old one?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>>>> alan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>

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