Re: Logon Profile Problem

From: Marty (Marty_at_discussions.microsoft.com)
Date: 12/09/04 

Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 16:35:01 -0800

All

Any additonal recommendations, or reports back on this above-mentioned issue
& resolution would be appreciated and may assist me in my predicament...

I am absolutely confused with administrative and configuration aspects of
Folder Redirection, Roaming profiles, Offline Files/Folders and SBS 2003. I
am having great difficulty finding appropriate documentation. The advice that
the esteemed MVPs mention in this newsgroup seems to totally differ from the
default 'out of the box' wizard setup that SBS 2003 provides/suggests. Please
if you could clarify/assist in relation to my issues as follows..

My situation:

Mix of PC and laptop users (need offline files/folders) that often swap PCs
or use office PC instead of laptop (need roaming profiles). SBS enabled My
Docs folder redirection automatically (as far as I can recall!) We have SBS
2003 Standard with all latest & greatest patches (not Windows Server 2003 SP1
as yet!) and all XP SP2 workstations..

Last time I checked in XP Profile Manager, My 'personal account' Roaming
User Profile was maxed out at 999 M on the server (1G disk quotas), I get
Administrator Account 'userenv' errors Event Id 1030 in Event Log, My Docs
Offline Folders will not keep files & folders that I DO delete, deleted -
they keep on coming back no matter whether they're deleted online or offline
or on local offline profile or from actual server copy.. also Offline
Sydnchronisation kicks in annoyingly whenever I boot my laptop.. even when
out of the office.. very annoying as you cannot stop unless you totally
disble Logon/Logoff Sychronisation which I have now disabled..

My Docs seem to be in same spot on server, inside each user's Profile
directory: //{servername}/Users Shared Folders/{username}/{username} Documents

Should I redesign the entire directory structure and seperate the User
Profiles from My Docs storage? How should I do this? Why should I do this and
shouldn't this work without tinkering as I don't want a non-standard SBS
setup and certainly don't want any system downtime or further
complications...

I recently disabled Shadow Copies and increased disk quotas to 2G on the
server drive that hosts the User directories, I checked my server and local
copy of profile and they were both at 3.4G (too big!), I'm boggled!

I want to resolve the whole thing once and for all... allow Roaming Users,
keep My Docs files/folders deleted (that I want deleted!), ensure profiles
are kept to a minimum size, ensure that I can use local My Docs when off
network & Offline synchronisation occurs only when online on office network
(not VPN either!). Am I asking for too much?

Your help is greatly appreciated!

Marty

"John Harris" wrote:

> Thanks All, I will try these suggestions tomorrow and report back.
>
> --
> John Harris (Harry)
> Computer Troubleshooters - Hornby
> Christchurch
> New Zealand
>
>
>
> "ye110wbeard" <ye110wbeard@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:e5plZj11EHA.3820@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > Actually I've seen this.
> >
> > The laptop profile may be corrupt. The way to find out "the good copy" is
> > to rename both (login locally to do this as Administrator) and then login
> > and logout successfully on the laptop and the PC (But no both at the same
> > time, THAT will be a problem).
> >
> > If you get the new profile on both workstations as having the "magical
> > pictures" then the changes on the laptop were never properly synching with
> > the server.
> >
> > Possibility number two is the copy of the profile on the server is bad.
> >
> > If that's the case, it might almost be a "not bad idea" to make a new
> > profile by renaming both local copies, taking ownership of the server copy
> > and renaming it.
> >
> > Make one clean one on the laptop and use the old "My Documents, Desktop,
> > Application Data, Favorites" to move important bits back. Don't forget
> > the NK2 files for Outlook 2003 for the cached name list used when
> > composing emails.
> >
> > Good luck
> >
> >
> >
> > "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
> > <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.atyahoo.com> wrote in
> > message news:uoGBHt01EHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >> John Harris wrote:
> >>> Hi All,
> >>> I have a user that has no problems actually logging on but does have a
> >>> problem with what is loaded with the profile. He uses two machines
> >>> fairly regularly, one is a laptop and the other (primary) is his
> >>> desktop. When he changes his profile on the laptop (e.g. deletes the
> >>> photos in his My Documents folder) it saves the changes to the server
> >>> (Dell PE4400). When he logs back on the laptop, no problem. When he
> >>> logs back on to the PC (it has been logged off all this time) the
> >>> pictures come back to life.
> >>>
> >>> His profile is set in \\servername\%username%\profile in ADUC
> >>
> >> If that's his home directory, rethink your setup. Don't mix up profiles
> >> and
> >> home directory data.
> >> Use a parent folder called profiles, share it as profiles$ to make it a
> >> hidden share, and specify \\server\profiles$\%username% for the path.
> >>
> >> Share permissions should be everyone=full control. NTFS permissions on
> >> profiles should be administrators, system, and users=full control - the
> >> permissions will be modified for each subfolder (%username%) when they
> >> log
> >> in & create the profile folder automatically the first time.
> >>
> >> See if fixing this for him resolves his problem....then fix everyone else
> >> if
> >> so.
> >>
> >> If I'm barking up the wrong tree, look for userenv errors in his
> >> workstation
> >> app event logs.
> >>
> >>> and
> >>> they run a basic batch file utilising the NET USE command for drive
> >>> mappings. When he logs on there is no problem with retrieving his
> >>> personal settings from the server (i.e. uses the profile on the
> >>> server NOT the locally stored profile). When he logs off all settings
> >>> appear to be saved whether it is from the PC or laptop (whichever is
> >>> last off).
> >>>
> >>> He appears to be the only person suffering this issue and I have
> >>> deleted his NTUSER.DAT file.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>

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