Re: Log-on in Peer to Peer vs. Log-on in client/server network

From: Javier Gomez [SBS MVP] (javier_gomez_at_REMOVE.THIS.engineer.com)
Date: 11/24/04


Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 15:33:49 -0500


> I want to do my homework so I know what to expect when
> I start.

Great... we all been down that road at some point. Keep asking questions!

Let me try to explain this carefuly... I want to be clear on the
terminology.

When you join a computer to a domain you get two options at logon. You can
either "Logon to the Domain" or "Log on locally"... the second one is seldom
used because you only have rights to that machine in particular. I'm not
sure how to say this without confusing you even more, but the term "local
user accounts" is not for the domain (hence the name "local").

The bottomline is... for all practical purposes-> Forget about LOCAL
username/passwords... from now on you will logon to the workstations using
the domain credentials. There are no two sets of username/passwords, because
all of them are stored in the server (which is the one you are
authenticating against). This is totally transparent to the end user (I mean
that nobody will even notice the difference). Remember the whole point of
having a domain is that you have a set of domain credentials that
open/closes the "doors" of every resource in the lan from a centralized
location.

Having said that... just to emphasize what I just said:

> Am I correct in my understanding that if each machine has been set
> up to be part of the SBS domain when they do start their PC's and log on
> to
> their local user account that they will also be connected/authenticated to
> the server if they have the same username/password for the server?

The simple answer is that you shouldn't be doing this. Remember... you don't
log to "local user account" instead you log into the Domain. You don't have
to worry about having the same username/password, because you only have 1
set of credentials (the domain).

So, to answer your question correctly... can I change it like this?

> Am I correct in my understanding that if each machine has been set
> up to be part of the SBS domain when they do start their PC's and log on
> to
> their DOMAIN user account that they will also be connected/authenticated
> to
> the server?

Then... yes. That is correct. :-)

Please if you still have questions... let us know.

-- 
Javier [SBS MVP]
www.msmvps.com/javier
<< SBS ROCKS!!! >>
"JT" <JT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message 
news:7BA6CC30-D914-431A-8214-AC01FAA83F9F@microsoft.com...
>I want the XP machines to be a part of the domain so they have access to 
>all
> of the features of SBS. If you couldn't tell I am new when it comes to
> client/server setups. I want to do my homework so I know what to expect 
> when
> I start. Am I correct in my understanding that if each machine has been 
> set
> up to be part of the SBS domain when they do start their PC's and log on 
> to
> their local user account that they will also be connected/authenticated to
> the server if they have the same username/password for the server?
>
> "Javier Gomez [SBS MVP]" wrote:
>
>> You mean like having the PCs still in workgroup mode (login locally) but
>> having the same username/password combination... if so, this would work 
>> (you
>> will not need to authenticate each time you need a resource from the
>> server). However, I strongly advise you against doing that simply because
>> its totally unnecesary and you will be missing many features of having a
>> domain (like GPOs).
>>
>> If you are talking about joining the PCs to the SBS domain... then this
>> would be transparent (the authentication is done against the server).
>>
>> -- 
>> Javier [SBS MVP]
>> www.msmvps.com/javier
>> << SBS ROCKS!!! >>
>>
>> "JT" <JT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:E3D93539-A3E8-4EEA-9F24-70FFCD058642@microsoft.com...
>> >I currently have three XP Pro computers in a peer to peer network with a
>> >file
>> > server that runs 24/7. The file server is a simple Linksys EFG80 and 
>> > also
>> > has
>> > DHCP as well.
>> > Each user has a log-on name/password when they start their computer and
>> > that
>> > also gives them access to their shares on the file server without 
>> > having
>> > to
>> > type in their username/password in again.
>> > With a Windows SBS if they were assigned the same username and password 
>> > on
>> > the server that they currently have on their PC's would they have to 
>> > log
>> > on
>> > again to have server access or would their PC log-on credentials give 
>> > them
>> > access?
>> >
>> > Thanks
>>
>>
>> 


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