Re: Help with drive partitioning please?

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From: Frank McCallister SBS MVP (anonymous)
Date: 11/20/04


Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 22:31:40 -0600

Hi Jim

My Point is you shouldn't have to move them. They should already be there.
By putting everything on C and leaving D blank Dell is setting the
uninformed user up for disaster. I find it easier to fresh Install like I
want it then to move all that stuff. They have never made one large
partition as far as I know and the server assistant won't partition C larger
than 64 GB AFAIK.

-- 
Frank McCallister SBS MVP
COMPUMAC
"Jim Behning SBS MVP" <jimbehingmvp@mindspring.com> wrote in message 
news:af8tp0ltbap6jkojen7fdfcukt8atsb50k@4ax.com...
> Sorry to rain on the Dell slamming. I touched a Dell server today that
> was just turned on. The Dell preinstall of SBS 2003 Standard had a 12
> gig C: and the rest for D: I would say that is just about perfect. I
> moved the client apps and would have moved the user folder but I had
> to go to another project. Of course moving the Exchange databases to
> the D: partition would have been another thing I would have done if I
> had stuck around.
>
> It would appear that someone either listened to the newsgroup people
> complaining or someone at Microsoft suggested there was a more
> prefered way to make use of 80 gig hard drives than one big partiton.
> Kind of like one big run on sentance.
>
> "Frank McCallister SBS MVP" <anonymous> wrote:
>
>>Hi Robert
>>
>>The problem with Dell preinstalls and why I always reinstall is that they
>>put everything on the small C and expect you to use the MS move utility to
>>move what you want to the unused D. If you use a 10-15 Gig C then during
>>install you should select to put Exchange and Usres and Data on D
>>
>>-- 
>>Frank McCallister SBS MVP
>>COMPUMAC
>>"Robert Connor" <robertcNOSPAM@PLEASEthielsen.com> wrote in message
>>news:u2nzrtozEHA.3808@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>I ran out of space on C on my current SBS4.5 about two months after Dell
>>>did the installation.  I won't repeat those mistakes.  I don't want to
>>>waste space, but I won't risk the problems for a gig or two.  I guess the
>>>real crux of my question was where should the Exchange Data be placed.
>>>Should it be on C with the OS or on D with the rest of the data.  I have
>>>read that separate was better for performance and that if you have only 
>>>one
>>>array that you don't get a performance boost from placing the data on a
>>>separate partition.
>>>
>>> Robert
>>>
>>> "Frank McCallister SBS MVP" <anonymous> wrote in message
>>> news:err8BhozEHA.3820@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hi Robert
>>>>
>>>> SG said no greater than 20 I said 15  You don't want to EVER run out of
>>>> space on C!!!! 10 is probably safe but I err toward a little safety and
>>>> use 15.
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Frank McCallister SBS MVP
>>>> COMPUMAC
>>>> "Robert Connor" <robertcNOSPAM@PLEASEthielsen.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:eMzwUKlzEHA.3804@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Super,
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you clarify just a bit.  Do you suggest putting your exchange data
>>>>> on the 126GB partition?  If so, what is going use the 20GB in the OS. 
>>>>> I
>>>>> have everything loaded on my new Dell server and the OS partition has
>>>>> only about 7.5GB.  I am running standard not premium, so my OS is 
>>>>> going
>>>>> to be smaller than some others.
>>>>>
>>>>> Robert
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <not@your.nellie> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%230ENF$jzEHA.1564@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>I disagree, most fervently.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Given a 4 drive RAID from Dell I'd probably flatten it also.
>>>>>> 3*73+hotspare
>>>>>> for a total usable space of 146GB. I'd put SBS into a partition of NO
>>>>>> GREATER THAN 20GB and use the rest for DATA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Drives fail. Having a hotspare for your array lessens the likelihood 
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> downtime.
>>>>>> Everything, particularly user file space, including sharepoint, 
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> moved off your OS partition so that in the event someone's fat finger
>>>>>> accidently copies a large amount of data your OS, at least, is still
>>>>>> bootable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I believe overpartitioning is just as silly as running a single
>>>>>> partition. I
>>>>>> do not create additional partitions for Exchange or any other
>>>>>> components. I
>>>>>> do see some benefit in creating an additional partition for stuff 
>>>>>> which
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> fairly static, \clientapps would fit this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another alternative would be to create two RAID 1's, no hotspare but
>>>>>> you get
>>>>>> the same 146GB usable. The main advantage I see in this is the 
>>>>>> ability
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> pull the mirrors before major update/upgrade and use the disconnected
>>>>>> drives
>>>>>> as a fallback point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "mtboxtech" <support@mtboxcomputers.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:1100806710.253119.217690@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>> Mike,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just my two cents worth, but I'm not aware of any convincing 
>>>>>>> evidence
>>>>>>> why you would want more than one partition.  As noted in a previous
>>>>>>> response, you will find many opinions on partitioning.  Unless you
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> a 'need' to create more than one partition, don't.  I've seen too 
>>>>>>> many
>>>>>>> times where the OS or Exchange partition run out of space, and it 
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>> isn't worth the problems.  You may want to consider a single 
>>>>>>> partition
>>>>>>> and create shares for your data, images, etc.  If you purchased SBS
>>>>>>> 2003 from Dell with the server, than the OS will be preinstalled.
>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>> means there will be a small (likely 2 Gbytes) partition for the OS 
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> the remainder for data.  Reload from scratch so you can set it up as
>>>>>>> you like.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good luck.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TL Kurtz
>>>>>>> M/T Box Computers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> Jim B. SBS  Community Member
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