Re: Manual Migration from 4.5 to 2003

From: Robert Connor (robertcNOSPAM_at_PLEASEthielsen.com)
Date: 11/17/04


Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 13:43:11 -0800

I am working with a new server. The offline build and configuration is the
most appealing part to me. If anything goes wrong I can start over and not
impact any of the other users.

Thanks for the warning about the profiles. I will put a copy of them on an
external hard drive. I am also planning to use the external drives as
backup for the server and for the transfer. I want to keep the original
server live until I know that the new server is working properly. I will
definitely do the workstations one at a time. I plan to use mine as a test
machine so that if anything unexpected happens it won't impact the rest of
the office.

Robert

"Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" <mwport@no_spam_hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23De6VcOzEHA.2900@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>I assume your moving to a new server. The Dell OMS Assistant generally
> works pretty well. I think you're on the right track with a fresh install
> of SBS 2003 for just 5 users. You can even build most of this offline and
> do the email-to-pst stuff and the data file transfer as a last process
> before you shut down the SBS 4.5.
>
> You'll lose the domain profiles on the workstations when you swing them to
> a
> new workgroup or domain, so make sure you have all their stuff copied to a
> different location on their hard drive (or on the original server's hard
> drive): desktop files, IE Favorities, Outlook Express (if they use for any
> purpose), etc. Sometimes it helps to take a snapshot of their desktops by
> pressing Ctrl-PrintScreen and then pasting this into a Word doc. If your
> original drive(s) are compatible with the new server, you can even move
> them
> temporarily into the server as a secondary drive(s) and copy the data
> files
> directly over to the new drives. However, for safety sake, I normally
> recommend that all data files on the original server be backed up to a
> spare
> internal IDE drive or an external USB drive and then transferred to the
> new
> server. This way, if something goes south, your original server remains
> intact and you can keep the company going until you get the new server
> problem fixed.
>
> And I wouldn't flip the workstations to a workgroup all at the same time.
> I'd probably do them one at a time to make recovery back to the SBS 4.5 a
> bit easier in case things don't go smoothly.
>
> --
> Merv Porter [SBS MVP]
> ===================================
> "Robert Connor" <robertcNOSPAM@PLEASEthielsen.com> wrote in message
> news:e7EwhZNzEHA.908@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> Frank,
>>
>> Concerning the clean installation process. Is the "Using the Dell
>> OpenManage Server Assistant CD to perform a clean install" method
>> detailed
>> in the Installation Instruction and Important Information booklet a good
>> process for getting a clean install? Do need to "dedell" the system or
>> is
>> using the factory CD and doing the install myself good enough?
>>
>> Thanks for all of your help so far.
>>
>> Robert
>>
>>
>> "Robert Connor" <robertcNOSPAM@PLEASEthielsen.com> wrote in message
>> news:eCVlaNNzEHA.2876@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> > Frank,
>> >
>> > I have been to Jeff's site a half dozen times in preparation for the
>> > migration. The bottom line is that if I want to buy his paper on the
>> > process it will be on my dime. My firm isn't going to pay for a
>> > process
>> > that Microsoft gives for free and we are only going to use once. The
>> > Swing also seems a bit daunting to me. I am a residential architect
>> > who
>> > plays at network administration a few minutes a day as a tertiary
>> > responsibility.
>> >
>> > I like the manual method because the risk of total failure is almost
> zero
>> > and it resembles things that I have already done. The more advanced
>> > migrations are all totally new processes.
>> >
>> > I am getting ready to take Lanwench and your advise and do a fresh
>> > install.
>> >
>> > Robert
>> >
>> > "Frank McCallister SBS MVP" <anonymous> wrote in message
>> > news:uXmrM7MzEHA.2540@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> >> Hi Robert
>> >>
>> >> Haven't seen that process but take a look at http://sbsmigration.com
> for
>> >> a good solution.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Frank McCallister SBS MVP
>> >> COMPUMAC
>> >> "Robert Connor" <robertcNOSPAM@PLEASEthielsen.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:OLJToqMzEHA.1452@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> >>> In preparation for our migration from 4.5 to 2003 I have been reading
> as
>> >>> much as I can find. I came across an article by Paul Schnackenburg
>> >>> which detailed a manual migration that I think may have advantages
>> >>> for
>> >>> us. I only have 5 user accounts to move so this method might hold
> some
>> >>> promise. The steps are basically, install SBS2003, create new users,
>> >>> export email accounts using .pst files, disconnect clients from old
>> >>> server, join to new domain, configure outlook for the new server,
> import
>> >>> the .pst files, xcopy the data from the old server. This seems so
> much
>> >>> more straight forward and seems like it would limit the amount of
>> >>> time
>> >>> that I have to have both servers down for the migration. Has anyone
>> >>> used this method, or have reasons why it is either good or bad? Here
> is
>> >>> a link to the story in case anyone is curious.
>> >>> http://www.apcmag.com/apc/v3.nsf/0/C0038E31CA6AA56ACA256E750013E5FC
> The
>> >>> manual migration process is near the end of the article.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>> Robert
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>



Relevant Pages

  • Re: Upgrade from SBS2K to SBS2k3 R2
    ... and re-run setup. ... seems ok now except my POP3 connector failed to install... ... Dell server, ...
    (microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs)
  • Re: SBS 2000 install problems (need to reinstall from scratch)
    ... They are just simple IDE drives running as dynamic disks ... I am familiar with the Active Directory replication from one server to ... the SBS install will change the AD schema to accomodate Exchange. ... >> Do I need to go into disk management and break the mirror first or just ...
    (microsoft.public.backoffice.smallbiz2000)
  • Re: Moving SCSI RAID array to new server
    ... Install the now blank array into the SBS2003, create the RAID volume, etc... ... I'd also probably lose the shirty SATA drives and eventually swing the whole ... > migrate the settings from the old server I just want to move the old RAID5 ...
    (microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs)
  • Re: Installing SBS with Raid 5
    ... It's why I keep a USB floppy around. ... their new server. ... install procedure so you can alternately use a USB flash drive, ... "Setup did not find any hard drisk drives installed in your ...
    (microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs)
  • Re: WEb site question
    ... Off the domain does refer to these particular workstations, ... I can post an ipconfig /all for the server right now, ... PRIOR to the install of the server, once on the domain the website ... It "appears" to be flash ...
    (microsoft.public.windows.server.general)