Re: Looking for SBS migration tool

From: Marina Roos [SBS-MVP] (marina_at_roos.nodontwantspam.nl.com)
Date: 11/02/04 

Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 12:03:08 +0100

Hi Mike,

Patience, Mike, patience. 

-- 
Regards,
Marina
Microsoft SBS-MVP
"MikeR" <research@rollesolutions.com> schreef in bericht
news:eW0DPeIwEHA.3896@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Anybody have the document that Jeff created? I can't seem to get anywhere
on
> the site listed and registration apparently doesn't mean a whole lot???
> I haven't received a confirmation or anything and I just re-registered
just
> in case.
>
>
> "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <not@your.nellie> wrote in message
> news:%23RZKjUFwEHA.3896@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >I recently did a test move from a white box to a Dell, similar
differences
> >
> > this is what I did
> >
> > OK, so I moved an SBS2003 install from a white box server to a Dell 2400
> > we
> > had lying around the office. (anyone want a reasonable TS?)
> >
> > The white box is our 'testbox', a PIII 677 which I have to check
tomorrow
> > the motherboard model. It's actually a dual mobo and used to have a
couple
> > of 1G CPU's in it, but times changed. It's our old SBS2K. Among other
> > things
> > we have a SBS2003 install on her. We change OS's by choosing which drive
> > to
> > boot off via the BIOS. SBS is on the SCSI, W2Kp is on the IDE. I have
> > loaded
> > a few OS's into VPC under W2Kp.
> >
> > The 2400 has a pair of PIII 733's.
> >
> > Different NIC's. 2 * Intel pro's vs 1 8255x and 1 HP NetServer
> >
> > Different drive subsystems, the white box has a 7889 adaptec, the 2400
is
> > a
> > PERC2 as well as having Adaptec 78xx series options.
> >
> > I was disappointed when Jan pointed out that every box I had available
> > basically had a 'serverworks' chipset. I really wanted to do this on
boxes
> > as disparate as possible.
> >
> > I used an Adaptec 1200a PCI RAID card to move things, hadn't previously
> > tested it in either box, wanted to live dangerously.
> >
> > SO,
> >
> > I threw the Adaptec card into the white box and started her up. Windows
> > 2k3
> > loaded the HighPoint 370 driver exactly as expected. Shut her down and
> > connect a spare 80G IDE we had in the cupboard, restart, and the boring
> > stuff continues, the drive was available to W2k3. The drive had a
previous
> > install of windows on it so I formatted it. (I may have avoided the
> > problem
> > later mentioned if I'd just deleted the damned partition)
> >
> > So now I have an SBS which also recognises the 1200a drives. Shut her
down
> > and boot of the GHOST floppy.
> >
> > I'm not yet sure whether the problem was due to resizing the partition
> > during the ghost or due to the order drives are detected by this system
> > but
> > I disconnected the SCSI and... You see, this is where things get a
little
> > interesting. She BSOD'd on restart.
> >
> > When running SBS on the white box it boots (when told to in BIOS) from
the
> > SCSI. However, as is normal IME, the IDE drive appears in Disk
Management
> > as
> > Drive0. The SCSI device is 'C:'. If we choose to boot from the IDE drive
> > it
> > still appears first in DM but is now 'C:', the SCSI being D the CD E and
> > the
> > 2nd partition on the IDE being F.
> >
> > The Adaptec card appears as a SCSI device.
> >
> > I couldn't get the cow to boot for love of money, then I had an idea.
> >
> > I reconnected the SCSI drive and booted off it. Went into Disk Manager
and
> > assigned the IDE partitions to drive letters W and X. Deleted the
> > partition
> > on the 1200a HDD and reghosted her. Disconnected the SCSI and rebooted
> > normally. I now had a bootable SBS on a drive connected to the 1200a.
> >
> > SO, it's time to throw the 1200a card into the target system.
> >
> > It had been suggested to me that the Dell may not allow the 1200a to be
> > used
> > as boot device. That was proven wrong in short order. I didn't bother
> > testing I just disconnected every other bootable device except CD and
> > floppy.
> >
> > She booted. (into DSRM of course)
> >
> > This was the, to me, most surprising bit of all.
> >
> > On the first reboot she suggested a single CPU and detected a few
devices,
> > installed them automagically, no CD required.
> >
> > Something I learned when moving '98 installs was that when Windows
> > suggests
> > 'I wanna restart' it's not always a good idea to do so, so when it had
> > installed a few devices, not installed others because the drivers
weren't
> > available, and suggested 'I wanna restart' I said 'stuff you, get on
with
> > the job'. More devices were installed and when it eventually settled
down
> > and was settled for twenty minutes or so I restarted. I left her for
20min
> > because when I've done similar things before it has _sometimes_ taken a
> > while for changes to be recognised. I reckon I could have rebooted her
> > immediately, into DSRM, but have no proof.
> >
> > Upon restart the system suggested an MPC HAL was loaded and running 2
> > CPU's,
> > still no CD anywhere near her, matter of fact no CD was ever asked for.
> > And
> > we're back in DSRM again.
> >
> > And restart, and DSRM, and nothing additional detected, there's this
thing
> > called 'Base System something' in the device manager with a red cross
> > against it but everything else is OK. LET'S GO FOR BROKE AND RESTART HER
> > NORMALLY.
> >
> > Ran the 'change server IP' wiz.
> >
> > Ran the 'Connect to the Internet' wiz.
> >
> > Restarted. All OK.
> >
> > I know I can ghost the IDE to a RAID array on the PERC2, I don't need to
> > test this but it's the only step not tested.
> >
> >
> >
> > -- 
> >
> > Mick Malloy
> >
> > http://www.micropol.com.au
> >
> >
> > "Bishop" <kenw@dcnconsulting.com> wrote in message
> > news:#Q7PpAEwEHA.1148@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >> Yes that phrase would be more approprate.  Everything is different in
the
> >> new system.  I'm not sure what the old hardware is, probably white box.
> > New
> >> hardware is HP server.  Thus there will be different Nic's, SCSI Card
and
> >> array.
> >>
> >> I though there were non-microsoft tools for this process but I'm not
> > finding
> >> any.
> >>
> >>
> >> "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <not@your.nellie> wrote in message
> >> news:u2J$JgxvEHA.1300@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> >> > a swing migration is a valid method however I think this could easily
> >> > be
> >> > rephrased as:
> >> > 'How do I move my existing installation to new hardware?'
> >> >
> >> > a description of the current hardware, be as specific as you can, and
> >> > similarly for the new hardware would be of great assistance.
> >> >
> >> > "Javier Gomez [SBS MVP]" <javier_gomez@REMOVE.THIS.engineer.com>
wrote
> > in
> >> > message news:OZ0sqeevEHA.2540@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >> > > May I also suggest you take a look at the Swing Migration technique
> >> > > developed by Jeff Middleton (a fellow SBS MVP):
> >> > > http://www.sbsmigration.com (send him an email or fill out the form
> >> > > provided on that site).
> >> > >
> >> > > This could potentially save you hours of hard work, etc and in my
> >> opinion
> >> > > the migration procedure is very well documented + gives you many
> >> > > tools/scripts to acomplish everything faster and with minimal
> > downtime.
> >> > > Another important factor is that it works in a much broader set of
> >> > > migration scenarios.
> >> > >
> >> > > If you have a specific question about this or some other method...
> >> > > let
> >> us
> >> > > know and I'm sure we can help you.
> >> > >
> >> > > Cheers,
> >> > >
> >> > > -- 
> >> > > Javier [SBS MVP]
> >> > > www.msmvps.com/javier
> >> > > << SBS ROCKS!!! >>
> >> > >
> >> > > "Frank McCallister SBS MVP" <anonymous> wrote in message
> >> > > news:%23aLB4NevEHA.1400@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> >> > >> Hi Bishop
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Check the M&M site
> > http://www.smallbizserver.net/Default.aspx?tabid=99
> >> > >>
> >> > >> -- 
> >> > >> Frank McCallister SBS MVP
> >> > >> COMPUMAC
> >> > >> "Bishop" <kenw@dcnconsulting.com> wrote in message
> >> > >> news:uZwLIudvEHA.1520@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> >> > >>> Just migrating to different hardware, not OS but sounds like a
> >> valiable
> >> > >>> read.
> >> > >>> thanks
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> "wilengle@sbcglobal.net" <no-spamwilengle@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
> >> > >>> message
> >> > >>> news:eZDM9CdvEHA.4072@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> >> > >>>> Here is a common tool
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>
> >>
> >
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=fa187d1e-8218-4501-9729-222bd8ebb64c&DisplayLang=en
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> SBS Down and dirty... it Rocks!
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> Wil Engle
> >> > >>>> Whitebox Solutions
> >> > >>>> remove the spam
> >> > >>>> "Bishop" <kenw@dcnconsulting.com> wrote in message
> >> > >>>> news:uZIpGIcvEHA.2316@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> >> > >>>> > We have a Windows 2000 SBS server utilizing Active Directory,
> > File,
> >> > >>> Print,
> >> > >>>> > ISA, Exchange, Policies, and Profiles.  The server is on old,
> > slow
> >> > >>>> > hardware
> >> > >>>> > and is ready for an upgrade to new faster hardware.  Looking
for
> >> > >>>> > recomendations on either tools or processes that can assist on
> >> making
> >> > >>> the
> >> > >>>> > migration smooth.
> >> > >>>> >
> >> > >>>> >
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Relevant Pages

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  • Re: Looking for SBS migration tool
    ... >> we have a SBS2003 install on her. ... SBS is on the SCSI, ... >> So now I have an SBS which also recognises the 1200a drives. ... She BSOD'd on restart. ...
    (microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs)
  • Re: Looking for SBS migration tool
    ... SBS is on the SCSI, ... > install of windows on it so I formatted it. ... > So now I have an SBS which also recognises the 1200a drives. ... She BSOD'd on restart. ...
    (microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs)
  • Re: Looking for SBS migration tool
    ... so I moved an SBS2003 install from a white box server to a Dell 2400 we ... SBS is on the SCSI, ... So now I have an SBS which also recognises the 1200a drives. ... She BSOD'd on restart. ...
    (microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs)
  • Re: moving entire server
    ... So now I have an SBS which also recognises the 1200a drives. ... I disconnected the SCSI and... ... She BSOD'd on restart. ... Ran the 'change server IP' wiz. ...
    (microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs)