Re: Looking for SBS migration tool

From: MikeR (research_at_rollesolutions.com)
Date: 11/02/04 

Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 19:04:56 -0800

Anybody have the document that Jeff created? I can't seem to get anywhere on
the site listed and registration apparently doesn't mean a whole lot???
I haven't received a confirmation or anything and I just re-registered just
in case.

"SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <not@your.nellie> wrote in message
news:%23RZKjUFwEHA.3896@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>I recently did a test move from a white box to a Dell, similar differences
>
> this is what I did
>
> OK, so I moved an SBS2003 install from a white box server to a Dell 2400
> we
> had lying around the office. (anyone want a reasonable TS?)
>
> The white box is our 'testbox', a PIII 677 which I have to check tomorrow
> the motherboard model. It's actually a dual mobo and used to have a couple
> of 1G CPU's in it, but times changed. It's our old SBS2K. Among other
> things
> we have a SBS2003 install on her. We change OS's by choosing which drive
> to
> boot off via the BIOS. SBS is on the SCSI, W2Kp is on the IDE. I have
> loaded
> a few OS's into VPC under W2Kp.
>
> The 2400 has a pair of PIII 733's.
>
> Different NIC's. 2 * Intel pro's vs 1 8255x and 1 HP NetServer
>
> Different drive subsystems, the white box has a 7889 adaptec, the 2400 is
> a
> PERC2 as well as having Adaptec 78xx series options.
>
> I was disappointed when Jan pointed out that every box I had available
> basically had a 'serverworks' chipset. I really wanted to do this on boxes
> as disparate as possible.
>
> I used an Adaptec 1200a PCI RAID card to move things, hadn't previously
> tested it in either box, wanted to live dangerously.
>
> SO,
>
> I threw the Adaptec card into the white box and started her up. Windows
> 2k3
> loaded the HighPoint 370 driver exactly as expected. Shut her down and
> connect a spare 80G IDE we had in the cupboard, restart, and the boring
> stuff continues, the drive was available to W2k3. The drive had a previous
> install of windows on it so I formatted it. (I may have avoided the
> problem
> later mentioned if I'd just deleted the damned partition)
>
> So now I have an SBS which also recognises the 1200a drives. Shut her down
> and boot of the GHOST floppy.
>
> I'm not yet sure whether the problem was due to resizing the partition
> during the ghost or due to the order drives are detected by this system
> but
> I disconnected the SCSI and... You see, this is where things get a little
> interesting. She BSOD'd on restart.
>
> When running SBS on the white box it boots (when told to in BIOS) from the
> SCSI. However, as is normal IME, the IDE drive appears in Disk Management
> as
> Drive0. The SCSI device is 'C:'. If we choose to boot from the IDE drive
> it
> still appears first in DM but is now 'C:', the SCSI being D the CD E and
> the
> 2nd partition on the IDE being F.
>
> The Adaptec card appears as a SCSI device.
>
> I couldn't get the cow to boot for love of money, then I had an idea.
>
> I reconnected the SCSI drive and booted off it. Went into Disk Manager and
> assigned the IDE partitions to drive letters W and X. Deleted the
> partition
> on the 1200a HDD and reghosted her. Disconnected the SCSI and rebooted
> normally. I now had a bootable SBS on a drive connected to the 1200a.
>
> SO, it's time to throw the 1200a card into the target system.
>
> It had been suggested to me that the Dell may not allow the 1200a to be
> used
> as boot device. That was proven wrong in short order. I didn't bother
> testing I just disconnected every other bootable device except CD and
> floppy.
>
> She booted. (into DSRM of course)
>
> This was the, to me, most surprising bit of all.
>
> On the first reboot she suggested a single CPU and detected a few devices,
> installed them automagically, no CD required.
>
> Something I learned when moving '98 installs was that when Windows
> suggests
> 'I wanna restart' it's not always a good idea to do so, so when it had
> installed a few devices, not installed others because the drivers weren't
> available, and suggested 'I wanna restart' I said 'stuff you, get on with
> the job'. More devices were installed and when it eventually settled down
> and was settled for twenty minutes or so I restarted. I left her for 20min
> because when I've done similar things before it has _sometimes_ taken a
> while for changes to be recognised. I reckon I could have rebooted her
> immediately, into DSRM, but have no proof.
>
> Upon restart the system suggested an MPC HAL was loaded and running 2
> CPU's,
> still no CD anywhere near her, matter of fact no CD was ever asked for.
> And
> we're back in DSRM again.
>
> And restart, and DSRM, and nothing additional detected, there's this thing
> called 'Base System something' in the device manager with a red cross
> against it but everything else is OK. LET'S GO FOR BROKE AND RESTART HER
> NORMALLY.
>
> Ran the 'change server IP' wiz.
>
> Ran the 'Connect to the Internet' wiz.
>
> Restarted. All OK.
>
> I know I can ghost the IDE to a RAID array on the PERC2, I don't need to
> test this but it's the only step not tested.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Mick Malloy
>
> http://www.micropol.com.au
>
>
> "Bishop" <kenw@dcnconsulting.com> wrote in message
> news:#Q7PpAEwEHA.1148@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> Yes that phrase would be more approprate. Everything is different in the
>> new system. I'm not sure what the old hardware is, probably white box.
> New
>> hardware is HP server. Thus there will be different Nic's, SCSI Card and
>> array.
>>
>> I though there were non-microsoft tools for this process but I'm not
> finding
>> any.
>>
>>
>> "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <not@your.nellie> wrote in message
>> news:u2J$JgxvEHA.1300@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> > a swing migration is a valid method however I think this could easily
>> > be
>> > rephrased as:
>> > 'How do I move my existing installation to new hardware?'
>> >
>> > a description of the current hardware, be as specific as you can, and
>> > similarly for the new hardware would be of great assistance.
>> >
>> > "Javier Gomez [SBS MVP]" <javier_gomez@REMOVE.THIS.engineer.com> wrote
> in
>> > message news:OZ0sqeevEHA.2540@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> > > May I also suggest you take a look at the Swing Migration technique
>> > > developed by Jeff Middleton (a fellow SBS MVP):
>> > > http://www.sbsmigration.com (send him an email or fill out the form
>> > > provided on that site).
>> > >
>> > > This could potentially save you hours of hard work, etc and in my
>> opinion
>> > > the migration procedure is very well documented + gives you many
>> > > tools/scripts to acomplish everything faster and with minimal
> downtime.
>> > > Another important factor is that it works in a much broader set of
>> > > migration scenarios.
>> > >
>> > > If you have a specific question about this or some other method...
>> > > let
>> us
>> > > know and I'm sure we can help you.
>> > >
>> > > Cheers,
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Javier [SBS MVP]
>> > > www.msmvps.com/javier
>> > > << SBS ROCKS!!! >>
>> > >
>> > > "Frank McCallister SBS MVP" <anonymous> wrote in message
>> > > news:%23aLB4NevEHA.1400@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> > >> Hi Bishop
>> > >>
>> > >> Check the M&M site
> http://www.smallbizserver.net/Default.aspx?tabid=99
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> Frank McCallister SBS MVP
>> > >> COMPUMAC
>> > >> "Bishop" <kenw@dcnconsulting.com> wrote in message
>> > >> news:uZwLIudvEHA.1520@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> > >>> Just migrating to different hardware, not OS but sounds like a
>> valiable
>> > >>> read.
>> > >>> thanks
>> > >>>
>> > >>> "wilengle@sbcglobal.net" <no-spamwilengle@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
>> > >>> message
>> > >>> news:eZDM9CdvEHA.4072@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> > >>>> Here is a common tool
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>
>>
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=fa187d1e-8218-4501-9729-222bd8ebb64c&DisplayLang=en
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> SBS Down and dirty... it Rocks!
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Wil Engle
>> > >>>> Whitebox Solutions
>> > >>>> remove the spam
>> > >>>> "Bishop" <kenw@dcnconsulting.com> wrote in message
>> > >>>> news:uZIpGIcvEHA.2316@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> > >>>> > We have a Windows 2000 SBS server utilizing Active Directory,
> File,
>> > >>> Print,
>> > >>>> > ISA, Exchange, Policies, and Profiles. The server is on old,
> slow
>> > >>>> > hardware
>> > >>>> > and is ready for an upgrade to new faster hardware. Looking for
>> > >>>> > recomendations on either tools or processes that can assist on
>> making
>> > >>> the
>> > >>>> > migration smooth.
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>> >
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

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    (microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs)
  • Re: Looking for SBS migration tool
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    (microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs)
  • Re: Looking for SBS migration tool
    ... so I moved an SBS2003 install from a white box server to a Dell 2400 we ... SBS is on the SCSI, ... So now I have an SBS which also recognises the 1200a drives. ... She BSOD'd on restart. ...
    (microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs)
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