Re: Looking for SBS migration tool
From: SuperGumby [SBS MVP] (not_at_your.nellie)
Date: 11/01/04
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Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 07:56:01 +1100
I recently did a test move from a white box to a Dell, similar differences
this is what I did
OK, so I moved an SBS2003 install from a white box server to a Dell 2400 we
had lying around the office. (anyone want a reasonable TS?)
The white box is our 'testbox', a PIII 677 which I have to check tomorrow
the motherboard model. It's actually a dual mobo and used to have a couple
of 1G CPU's in it, but times changed. It's our old SBS2K. Among other things
we have a SBS2003 install on her. We change OS's by choosing which drive to
boot off via the BIOS. SBS is on the SCSI, W2Kp is on the IDE. I have loaded
a few OS's into VPC under W2Kp.
The 2400 has a pair of PIII 733's.
Different NIC's. 2 * Intel pro's vs 1 8255x and 1 HP NetServer
Different drive subsystems, the white box has a 7889 adaptec, the 2400 is a
PERC2 as well as having Adaptec 78xx series options.
I was disappointed when Jan pointed out that every box I had available
basically had a 'serverworks' chipset. I really wanted to do this on boxes
as disparate as possible.
I used an Adaptec 1200a PCI RAID card to move things, hadn't previously
tested it in either box, wanted to live dangerously.
SO,
I threw the Adaptec card into the white box and started her up. Windows 2k3
loaded the HighPoint 370 driver exactly as expected. Shut her down and
connect a spare 80G IDE we had in the cupboard, restart, and the boring
stuff continues, the drive was available to W2k3. The drive had a previous
install of windows on it so I formatted it. (I may have avoided the problem
later mentioned if I'd just deleted the damned partition)
So now I have an SBS which also recognises the 1200a drives. Shut her down
and boot of the GHOST floppy.
I'm not yet sure whether the problem was due to resizing the partition
during the ghost or due to the order drives are detected by this system but
I disconnected the SCSI and... You see, this is where things get a little
interesting. She BSOD'd on restart.
When running SBS on the white box it boots (when told to in BIOS) from the
SCSI. However, as is normal IME, the IDE drive appears in Disk Management as
Drive0. The SCSI device is 'C:'. If we choose to boot from the IDE drive it
still appears first in DM but is now 'C:', the SCSI being D the CD E and the
2nd partition on the IDE being F.
The Adaptec card appears as a SCSI device.
I couldn't get the cow to boot for love of money, then I had an idea.
I reconnected the SCSI drive and booted off it. Went into Disk Manager and
assigned the IDE partitions to drive letters W and X. Deleted the partition
on the 1200a HDD and reghosted her. Disconnected the SCSI and rebooted
normally. I now had a bootable SBS on a drive connected to the 1200a.
SO, it's time to throw the 1200a card into the target system.
It had been suggested to me that the Dell may not allow the 1200a to be used
as boot device. That was proven wrong in short order. I didn't bother
testing I just disconnected every other bootable device except CD and
floppy.
She booted. (into DSRM of course)
This was the, to me, most surprising bit of all.
On the first reboot she suggested a single CPU and detected a few devices,
installed them automagically, no CD required.
Something I learned when moving '98 installs was that when Windows suggests
'I wanna restart' it's not always a good idea to do so, so when it had
installed a few devices, not installed others because the drivers weren't
available, and suggested 'I wanna restart' I said 'stuff you, get on with
the job'. More devices were installed and when it eventually settled down
and was settled for twenty minutes or so I restarted. I left her for 20min
because when I've done similar things before it has _sometimes_ taken a
while for changes to be recognised. I reckon I could have rebooted her
immediately, into DSRM, but have no proof.
Upon restart the system suggested an MPC HAL was loaded and running 2 CPU's,
still no CD anywhere near her, matter of fact no CD was ever asked for. And
we're back in DSRM again.
And restart, and DSRM, and nothing additional detected, there's this thing
called 'Base System something' in the device manager with a red cross
against it but everything else is OK. LET'S GO FOR BROKE AND RESTART HER
NORMALLY.
Ran the 'change server IP' wiz.
Ran the 'Connect to the Internet' wiz.
Restarted. All OK.
I know I can ghost the IDE to a RAID array on the PERC2, I don't need to
test this but it's the only step not tested.
-- Mick Malloy http://www.micropol.com.au "Bishop" <kenw@dcnconsulting.com> wrote in message news:#Q7PpAEwEHA.1148@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > Yes that phrase would be more approprate. Everything is different in the > new system. I'm not sure what the old hardware is, probably white box. New > hardware is HP server. Thus there will be different Nic's, SCSI Card and > array. > > I though there were non-microsoft tools for this process but I'm not finding > any. > > > "SuperGumby [SBS MVP]" <not@your.nellie> wrote in message > news:u2J$JgxvEHA.1300@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... > > a swing migration is a valid method however I think this could easily be > > rephrased as: > > 'How do I move my existing installation to new hardware?' > > > > a description of the current hardware, be as specific as you can, and > > similarly for the new hardware would be of great assistance. > > > > "Javier Gomez [SBS MVP]" <javier_gomez@REMOVE.THIS.engineer.com> wrote in > > message news:OZ0sqeevEHA.2540@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... > > > May I also suggest you take a look at the Swing Migration technique > > > developed by Jeff Middleton (a fellow SBS MVP): > > > http://www.sbsmigration.com (send him an email or fill out the form > > > provided on that site). > > > > > > This could potentially save you hours of hard work, etc and in my > opinion > > > the migration procedure is very well documented + gives you many > > > tools/scripts to acomplish everything faster and with minimal downtime. > > > Another important factor is that it works in a much broader set of > > > migration scenarios. > > > > > > If you have a specific question about this or some other method... let > us > > > know and I'm sure we can help you. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > -- > > > Javier [SBS MVP] > > > www.msmvps.com/javier > > > << SBS ROCKS!!! >> > > > > > > "Frank McCallister SBS MVP" <anonymous> wrote in message > > > news:%23aLB4NevEHA.1400@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... > > >> Hi Bishop > > >> > > >> Check the M&M site http://www.smallbizserver.net/Default.aspx?tabid=99 > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Frank McCallister SBS MVP > > >> COMPUMAC > > >> "Bishop" <kenw@dcnconsulting.com> wrote in message > > >> news:uZwLIudvEHA.1520@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... > > >>> Just migrating to different hardware, not OS but sounds like a > valiable > > >>> read. > > >>> thanks > > >>> > > >>> "wilengle@sbcglobal.net" <no-spamwilengle@sbcglobal.net> wrote in > > >>> message > > >>> news:eZDM9CdvEHA.4072@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... > > >>>> Here is a common tool > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=fa187d1e-8218-4501-9729-222bd8ebb64c&DisplayLang=en > > >>>> > > >>>> SBS Down and dirty... it Rocks! > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> Wil Engle > > >>>> Whitebox Solutions > > >>>> remove the spam > > >>>> "Bishop" <kenw@dcnconsulting.com> wrote in message > > >>>> news:uZIpGIcvEHA.2316@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... > > >>>> > We have a Windows 2000 SBS server utilizing Active Directory, File, > > >>> Print, > > >>>> > ISA, Exchange, Policies, and Profiles. The server is on old, slow > > >>>> > hardware > > >>>> > and is ready for an upgrade to new faster hardware. Looking for > > >>>> > recomendations on either tools or processes that can assist on > making > > >>> the > > >>>> > migration smooth. > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
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