Re: getting me ducks in a row - concepts

From: barney (barney_at_example.com)
Date: 10/19/04


Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 10:07:07 GMT

Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] wrote:
> barney wrote:

>> 1) When I setup client PC's, can I specify that they can only logon
>> through the domain controller or not at all (is the latter a good
>> idea? I want to keep them controlled so they use the file space on
>> the server)
>
> Yes. Don't create local login accounts for users, and make sure only admin
> types know the local administrator credentials on all PCs. Make sure all
> client PCs are running NT-based OSes like 2k or XP Pro.
> Use folder redirection via group policy to redirect My Documents to the
> user's home directory.

Ah, group policy, that's how it's done. I assume that once I've setup the
client PC's through the admin account to be a part of a domain the login
screen will change from the normal XP login (with usernames automatically
rendered to the welcome screen) to something like a Novell login? Where
users must type in their UN and PW.

>> Secondly, when setting up local client machines;
>>
>> 1) should I flatten all the HDD's and "push" all the apps to those
>> machines?
>
> You mean, reinstall Windows & all apps? I don't know if that's called for,
> unless you don't know or trust whatever's on there already & really want to
> make sure your workstations are standardized. You can push out application
> installs via GP & MSI files if you know what you're doing with that....try
> posting or lurking in m.p.windows.group_policy

Thanks. I was just thinking of consistancy and the ease of reloading or
adding new machines. I only have around 15 machines, so maybe it's not
worth the trouble?

>> 3) Would I be able to push QuickBooks (yes I've read about some of the
>> other QB issues with user rights and registry keys)
>
> Do all your users really need Quickbooks? Do you have enough licenses to
> install it on all computers? Note that Intuit software tends to assume that
> the user has local admin rights and you will want to tweak this using RegMon
> and FileMon from www.sysinternals.com

Not *all* users need it. Am I right is assuming that I don't need to give
local admin rights if I provide users with admin rights to the QB registry
keys on the server?

>> 4) could someone give a brief idea of what's involved (at a high
>> level) in pushing apps - am I just sending the setup files or will
>> the setup auto-run?
>
> How many apps are we talking about? How many desktops? Unless you have a
> boatload, setting 'em up manually may be a lot faster & easier for you.

About 15 desktops, basic office apps and QB. Nothing huge.

>> Lastly, (anyone still reading??) The two NIC setup;
>>
>> 1) Can this be performed satisfactorily with sbs standard in
>> conjunction with a good firewall? Is it just a matter of whacking
>> them on different subnets and running a routing wizard?
>
> Unless you use ISA or really need to use the built-in (and not terribly
> configurable) W2003 firewall, use only one NIC - let your firewall appliance
> do NAT, and handle Internet routing, filtering, whatnot. You don't need to
> do anything with routing on the server at all in that case. Assign your
> server/s static IPs in the same (private) IP range as the LAN IP of your
> firewall - and set up DHCP on the SBS server, not on the firewall.
> Note: I may be in the minority on this topic, but I've been setting up
> domains & servers a long time - and outside of the SBS groups, a dual-homed
> DC is generally considered a big no-no. Given how cheap router/firewall
> appliances are these days, I don't see it being worth the bother.

I do like the idea of using a different subnet with port forwarding from
the router for external access though. I may try that first, seems
reasonable to segment public traffic from private.

>> Ok I think that's all for now, thanks to anyone who answers any of my
>> numerous dumb questions.
>
> Hope this helps.

It has indeed. Thank you.



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