Re: Anyone tri-homed SBS2003?
From: Javier Gomez [SBS MVP] (javier_gomez_at_REMOVE.THIS.engineer.com)
Date: 10/11/04
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Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 15:33:27 -0400
Hi Chris!
I think your problem is not nearly as bad as it appears. The way I see it
you have several options:
1) Use your current ISP (the cable provider) as a smarthost. Don't they
offer that service? What ISP is this?
2) Use your webhosting ISP as a smarthost. You say that they require POP3
before SMTP? How big is the time window? You can probably setup the POP3
connector to trigger this every 15 min (even when no email is present).
[Also, I have found that many ISPs that say they only support POP3 before
SMTP they also work with authenticated SMTP. Did you try it?]
3) Change your webhosting provider to one that doesn't require POP3 before
SMTP (in fact you could register *another* domain to do this). I can
recommend several ones that would do this for less than $10/month (cheaper
than DSL).
4) Use a 3rd party service.... I don't see why this is cost-prohibitive. For
example-> http://www.dyndns.org/services/mailhop/outbound/ (for $14.95/yr
you can send up to 150 relays/day or $35.95/yr for up to 450 relays/day). Do
you think that is more expensive than DSL? or that you need to send more
than 450 relays per day?
The way I see it you have many options (probably more than the ones I just
posted).
-- Javier [SBS MVP] << SBS ROCKS!!! >> "Chris" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:006a01c4afc1$c8ce2ac0$a601280a@phx.gbl... > Very good point David. And since I'd have no idea ahead > of time who I was sending email too, then I'd be no > better off than using the web based service on my current > host. Man, this bites. > > I vote all spammers should be severly beaten, and then > beaten some more <G>. > > Well, back to the drawing board <G> > > Thanks! > Chris > >>-----Original Message----- >>Chris, >> >>The problem I can see you running into is that if your > Exchange server is >>not sending the email to just one server (smarthost) to > be able to relay the >>email then from an IP routing perspective you can only > have one default >>gateway (active) at a time.. meaning that if you have > your default gateway >>configured on your cable modem nic.. then any traffic > for which the server >>doesn't have a more specific route the server will send > it out via the nic >>going to the default gateway. If you were able to > relay off of your dsl >>ISP provider then you could specify a specific route to > the smarthost's IP >>address(es) to go out via the dsl connection's nic and > leave the default >>gateway on the cable modem. >> >>Otherwise, you would need to add specific routes to all > of the remote email >>servers you need to be able to send email to so that the > traffic for those >>addresses go out via the dsl connection nic. >> >> >>--- >> >>Hope that helps, >>David Copeland >>Microsoft Small Business Server Support >> >>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and > confers no rights. >> >>Newsgroups: >>SBS v4.x : microsoft.public.backoffice.smallbiz >>SBS 2000: microsoft.public.backoffice.smallbiz2000 >>SBS 2003: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs >> >> >>"Chris" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in > message >>news:201a01c4afbe$b2f208f0$a501280a@phx.gbl... >>> I've looked into using and email hosting company to >>> provide my email via "smart host", etrn, etc, but they >>> are cost prohibitive. I can get a DSL line cheaper than >>> the hosting service. Any other thoughts anyone? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> Chris >>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>Have you tried using "smart host"? All this requires > is >>> that you have a >>>>valid user ID and password of a email account on the >>> mail server. (Took me >>>>a long time to figure that out.) Since your ISP's mail >>> server will be a >>>>fixed address, you get around the problems. Microsoft >>> doesn't seem to >>>>document anywhere, anything about smart host, (and if >>> you know of any, let >>>>me know where) but it is basically just a email address >>> on a ISP >>>> >>>>** Tom ** >>>> >>>>"Chris" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in >>> message >>>>news:3bd401c4afbb$3e86bfe0$a401280a@phx.gbl... >>>>> I'm sure many of you are saying what the _ _ _ _? >>>>> >>>>> Here's my postition. >>>>> >>>>> Due to my location, DSL speeds are very slow (~200k) >>> so I >>>>> use a cable modem (over 2mb). But I can't get a > static >>> IP >>>>> until Feb 2005. After having over 2mb of bandwidth, I >>>>> cringe at the thought of going back to 200k (spoiled >>>>> geek - yes I am). As I'm sure most of you are aware, >>> many >>>>> companies/ISPs are blocking any mail from dynamic IPs >>>>> because of spammers. I used to work around the issue > by >>>>> logging on my web hosts email server via their web >>>>> interface to send mail to particular domains. > However, >>>>> this is becomming in royal pain in the backside since >>>>> that list of domains is getting bigger by the day, > not >>> to >>>>> mention that I can't reply to their original message >>>>> because it's been downloaded to my server. >>>>> >>>>> Currently my mail is delivered to my web hosting >>>>> provider, and I pull it down with the POP3 connector >>>>> (which is terribly unreliable). Outbound email is >>> routed >>>>> via DNS. My web host only offers POP3 authentication, >>> so >>>>> I can't relay my SMTP off of them without first >>>>> authenticating via POP3. They don't offer eturn or >>>>> similar either - I'm sure because of spammers. So, my >>>>> plan was to setup a DSL line specifically for email, >>> and >>>>> use the cable modem for surfing, etc. Once the static >>> IPs >>>>> are available, I'll disconnect the DSL when my 1 year >>>>> contract is up. >>>>> >>>>> Any of you tried this? I realize that the SBS2003 >>> wizards >>>>> aren't going to be much help, but I'm quite famialar >>> with >>>>> ISA and Exchange, so I'm not too concerned about > that. >>>>> Just curious if any of you have tried a similar >>> approach. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> Chris >>>> >>>> >>>>. >>>> >> >> >>. >>
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