Re: CALS and public resources

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From: Les Connor (les.connor_at_DEL.cfive.ca)
Date: 09/27/04


Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 08:59:50 -0500

Cool. Now we can hope that the understanding we share is actually the
correct understanding ;-0.

-- 
Les Connor [SBS Community Member]
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SBS Rocks !
"Al Christoph" <ac2@too.net> wrote in message 
news:%23cY2HgJpEHA.2764@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Thanks for the response and your patience. There was a posting previous in 
> this chain that seemed to imply otherwise, and I wanted to make sure that 
> my understanding which is the same as yours is correct. And that appears 
> to be the case.
>
> Regards,
> Al
> "Les Connor" <les.connor@DEL.cfive.ca> wrote in message 
> news:ublxiKCpEHA.3668@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> Same difference, nothing. Like I said, CALs (either kind) are not realted 
>> to the creation of user accounts.
>>
>> The onus is on the owner (a person) to be in compliance. So if *you* 
>> decide that the 5 included CALs are User CASs, then you can have 5 users 
>> (persons) log in to the SBS from 100 workstations. The opposite of 
>> Device CALs.
>>
>> Do a google search of this newsgroup for CALs, there's been lots of 
>> discussion.
>>
>> -- 
>> Les Connor [SBS Community Member]
>> -------------------------------------
>> SBS Rocks !
>>
>>
>>
>> "Al Christoph" <ac2@too.net> wrote in message 
>> news:udpGzeApEHA.556@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>> Thanks for the response Les. That is understood. The question is what 
>>> does the system do if you install USER CALS??????
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Al
>>>
>>> "Les Connor" <les.connor@DEL.cfive.ca> wrote in message 
>>> news:u0zjpd3oEHA.3724@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hi Al,
>>>>
>>>> You can create as many user accounts as you like - the creation of 
>>>> accounts is not tied to CALs in any way. 100 users could share 5 
>>>> workstations with 5 device CALs.
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Les Connor [SBS Community Member]
>>>> -------------------------------------
>>>> SBS Rocks !
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Al Christoph" <ac2@too.net> wrote in message 
>>>> news:uoCMAUzoEHA.1272@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Once you get your system up and running take a look at the user list. 
>>>>> You may - depending what you have decided to use - find all sorts of 
>>>>> users that MS has created for OS convenience. For example, I've got 
>>>>> users for each one of the subwebs, created not by me directly but 
>>>>> rather by the subweb creation process.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill has been accused of greed, but they could hardly charge you $99 
>>>>> for each one of these users that the software sets up for its 
>>>>> convenience.
>>>>>
>>>>> Question: An earlier posting seems to imply that the helium filled red 
>>>>> ballon tied to a brick won't work. In some licensing schemes if you 
>>>>> have the brick sitting on your desk you can use the license/software. 
>>>>> Thus, if you have ten PC's, one server, and 5 USER CAL's and 15 users, 
>>>>> the ballon trick implies that any 5 of them could connect on any or 
>>>>> all of the PC's while the other ten took an extended smoke break.
>>>>>
>>>>> OTH the way I read that comment in a very early post, the moment you 
>>>>> attempted to CREATE the sixth user you would be rebuffed.
>>>>>
>>>>> So do user CALS reflect who is using the system at the moment - the 
>>>>> red balloon  style - OR folks that you can create user id's for????? 
>>>>> How many full users can you create if you have 5 CALS?
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW Please forgive me if this was answered earlier in the string of 
>>>>> posts. I'll have to admit that I didn't slog through them all.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Al
>>>>> -
>>>>> "Dave Nickason [SBS MVP]" <gwdibble@NOSPAM.frontiernet.net> wrote in 
>>>>> message news:OZlAyqmoEHA.648@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> No, the resource account does not require a license.  Since there is 
>>>>>> no authentication being done by the resource account, it doesn't 
>>>>>> count as a user or device that requires a CAL.  For User CALs, users 
>>>>>> are actual people, not accounts.  Letting 5 people log in with one 
>>>>>> account still uses 5 User CALs, for example.  For Device CALs, 
>>>>>> they're devices that authenticate (such as computers, PDAs), not 
>>>>>> devices that don't (such as printers).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can have as many accounts in AD as you wish, unrelated to your 
>>>>>> CAL count.  For example, User A authenticates to the SBS, therefore 
>>>>>> using a CAL. User A quits and is replaced by User B.  User B uses the 
>>>>>> CAL that User A freed up by leaving the company.  You can leave User 
>>>>>> A in the AD for as long as you wish without consuming a CAL.  (I do 
>>>>>> this so that a supervisor can log into User A's profile and check for 
>>>>>> important data without giving the supervisor admin rights, then 
>>>>>> delete User A when we're sure nothing got missed).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
> 


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