Re: Which (AMD) hardware discussion

From: wedor (anonymous_at_discussions.microsoft.com)
Date: 08/18/04 

Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 06:49:16 -0700

Yes, my single Opteron at 1600 is faster than a pair of
2000's.

I would definitely build another.

I can't say for sure at that speed but at least with the
Opteron system you could upgrade later to a faster CPU,
the Athlon line is nearing the end its life cycle, not
much of an upgrade path left should you end up keeping
this a while.

You could upgrade to a 2400 (Operton 150) CPU later but
you won't get that kind of option if you use Athlons.

>-----Original Message-----
>Hi Wedore,
>
>So is your Opteron faster than twin Athlons then?
>
>If you had to do another SBS server now would you still
go the Opteron
>route? Looking at costs it looks like a twin Athlon Mp-
2800 system is about
>the same cost as a Opteron 140 (1-way 1400mhz), which of
those two do you
>think would be faster?
>
>Cheers,
> Nick
>
>"wedor" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
>news:7abd01c48498$e0fcdd20$a501280a@phx.gbl...
>> For longest life I went with the 64 bit boards, I
figured
>> that if they do indeed come out with a 64 bit version
of
>> the OS I'd be covered.
>>
>> You can get a single 64 bit board for $160, the dual
>> versions cost about $425+, you can still get the dual
>> Athlon MP versions (no dual XP) for about $200+.
>>
>> I think all of the older dual MP boards have 64 bit
slots
>> in them, usually at least 2.
>>
>> I have SBS2K running on a Tyan S2469 with 2x2000MP and
>> 1gb of ECC RAM, I recently built an SBS2K3 using a Tyan
>> S2882, 1x242 (1.6ghz) Opteron and 2gb ECC RAM, the
>> Opteron system is faster than any of the other systems
I
>> have running.
>>
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Thank Mal, this is going to be an SBS standard, so no
>> SQL Server.
>> >
>> >Unless anyone else has an opinion it looks like I will
>> go for one of the old
>> >twin Athlon motherboards then, that is if they are
still
>> available. Add to
>> >that 1Gb of ECC Ram and for the moment a single
ultra320
>> drive. Is there
>> >likely to be much difference between a 32bit or 64bit
>> SCSI controller?
>> >
>> >Nick
>> >
>> >
>> >"Mal Osborne" <malcolmo@silverfern.com.au> wrote in
>> message
>> >news:OAtWCTFhEHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> >> #1 sounds best to me.
>> >>
>> >> CPU speed is usually not a bottleneck with SBS,
even a
>> lowly PIII-800 is
>> >> often never pegged to 100%. This may vary with some
>> 3rd party apps, or
>> >> badly written SQL. A slowish FSB is really not an
>> issue. ECC RAM, SCSI, &
>> >a
>> >> proven, stable platform is way more important.
>> >>
>> >> Mal Osborne
>> >> MCSE MVP Mensa
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "NickC" <me@somewhere.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:O1G6dvEhEHA.3932@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> >> >I am still having trouble deciding which way to go
>> for a ten user SBS
>> >> >server
>> >> > and would welcome any opinions on the subject. I
>> would like to stick
>> >with
>> >> > some breed of AMD cpu mainly because we have been
>> using them for the
>> >past
>> >> > ten years with very few failures. One of the
>> biggest problems I have
>> >> > found
>> >> > is finding a motherboard with support for ECC
memory.
>> >> >
>> >> > Seems to me there are three main options:
>> >> >
>> >> > 1). Dual Athlon XP board (with or without dual
cpu)
>> >> > + Supports ECC Ram
>> >> > - No SATA or raid onboard, use Ultra320 SCSI
>> instead
>> >> > - Last developed 2 years ago, fsb slow by
current
>> standards
>> >> > + Likely to be very stable
>> >> >
>> >> > 2). Moden single Athlon NVidea nForce2 Ultra 400
or
>> similar board
>> >> > - Does NOT support ECC Ram
>> >> > + On board SATA & Raid
>> >> > + Reasonably stable depending upon use of
latest
>> drivers
>> >> >
>> >> > 3). Socket 940 Opteron 140 - 1-way 1400mhz
>> >> > A bit more expensive
>> >> > + supports ECC Ram
>> >> > + On board SATA & Raid 0,1
>> >> > - unknown stability
>> >> > - possible recently discovered Opteron bug
>> >> >
>> >> > Which do you think would be best to use?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> > Nick
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>
>
>.
>

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