Re: Seriously though...

From: Gary Karasik (gkarasik2fea.net)
Date: 08/16/04


Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 08:54:48 -0700

Steve,

You're equating using POP3 instead of SMTP with putting a gun to someone's
head? I think the comparison might be a bit extreme.

While there are certainly some questions that ought not to be answered (or
even asked), a blanket response to every question that does not follow MVP
orthodoxy is simply silly. This particular question concerns nothing that is
even remotely dangerous or risky. It's a simple question about an
alternative to MS's POP3 connector. If you want to, go ahead and add a plug
for SMTP.

You guys do a great and wonderful and generous job for which I and others
are greatful, but sometimes there's a subtle whiff of condescension that
emanates from the entrance to the cave.

GaryK

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"Steve Foster [SBS MVP]" <steve.foster@picamar.co.uk> wrote in message
news:xn0dm3b2911qosb006@msnews.microsoft.com...
> Frustrated Poster wrote:
>
> > Why not just answer the question?
> >
> > The question was in regards to a good third party POP3
> > collector other than MS's. He/She didn't ask whether SMTP
> > or POP3 collections is the better method.
> >
> > I am sure the person who queried for this response would
> > prefer an answer not a discussion.
>
> So if someone came up to you with a gun and some bullets and asked "how
> do I put these in this so I can shoot myself?", you'd go right ahead
> and just answer the question?
>
> There are some other elements to cover to the question about POP3 -
> people have time and time again said they "need" it to collect more
> frequently than 15 minutes - that's plain rubbish. Email is *not* a
> time-sensitive delivery mechanism. The fastest way to have email
> delivered with the minimum of delay is SMTP, not POP3. If you really
> need instant delivery, you don't use POP3. Additionally, if collecting
> mail for an entire domain, over dial-up, there's a good chance the POP3
> connector could take as much as (or even more than) 15 minutes just to
> do one download.
>
> And, just for the record, an answer to the question of a good 3rd-party
> alternative *was* given (POPBeamer).
>
> One of the strengths of this group (IMHO) is that many of the regular
> posters take the time and effort to try and educate the questioner, not
> just rattle off one line answers (though explanation does seem a little
> on the thin side in this particular thread). Remember also that they
> are giving their time freely, without recompense, and it's
> understandable that they occasionally get mildly irate at answering the
> exact same question over and over, and thus post an answer that's
> perhaps a bit more brusque than it might be (although the questioner is
> not to know that), especially when it's pretty obvious that the person
> asking the question has done no research.
>
> --
> Steve Foster [SBS MVP]
> ---------------------------------------
> MVPs do not work for Microsoft. Please reply only to the newsgroups.



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