Re: Page Cannot Be Displayed

From: Les Connor [SBS MVP] (les.connor_at_DEL.cfive.ca)
Date: 08/10/04 

Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 18:08:20 -0500

Did you fix something?

I can connect to both these servers and the link to the RWW works, and they
provide certificates that look ok. (I really don't know why you'd publish
your default web site, though ;-/)

It appears that the problem isn't on the servers, and doesn't exist between
where I sit and the servers. Hope that helps.

Have you tested for a black-hole router (MTU size). 

-- 
Les Connor [SBS MVP]
-------------------------------------
SBS Rocks !
"Les Connor [SBS MVP]" <les.connor@DEL.cfive.ca> wrote in message 
news:OWdBkwyfEHA.4092@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> It all looks very confusing to an outsider ;-/.
>
> Are these two sbs installations related to each other in any way? If 
> they're in separate physical locations and can and do exist independently, 
> I'd suggest reducing the description down to one network and working on 
> it.
>
> I do have a question or two, though. These Netopia routers, do they have 
> lan and wan interfaces, with IP's assigned to them. I'm not sure I 
> understand the reason for the IP addressing on the external nic - sorry if 
> you explained it somewhere.
>
> Another approach may be to test your connectivity within the lan, 
> completely - ensuring all resources are accessible. Once that is proven, 
> then if external access is not right at least we have an idea of where to 
> look.
>
> -- 
> Les Connor [SBS MVP]
> -------------------------------------
> SBS Rocks !
>
>
>
> "Ken" <Ken@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message 
> news:F7A79D08-4ABC-469D-BE65-4AA7201FC9E9@microsoft.com...
>> OH and BTW, I've been reading post about this issue on more than a few 
>> sites
>> (just plain ole due dillegence)...while misery loves company, I'm 
>> starting to
>> wonder if something else is amiss, that DNS packet size issue may not be 
>> the
>> culprit...
>> has anyone actually resolved this issue? If so I could'nt find any 
>> followup
>> (or thank you's <smile>)...Again any help appreciated
>>
>> "Ken" wrote:
>>
>>> Just for clarity (xcuse the long post), here is a clearer picture of 
>>> what is
>>> going on:
>>> 1) A XP Home machine serviced by SBC (Ameritech) can connect to:
>>> http://400sc.mergerx.net AND https://400sc.mergerx.net/remote, and 
>>> log-on w/o
>>> issue. It cannot connect to http://thg-server.tophatgolf.com (page 
>>> cannot be
>>> displayed)
>>>
>>> 2) A NT Workstation (at Cleveland Clinic) can connect to:
>>> http://400sc.mergerx.net , https://400sc.mergerx.net/remote AND to
>>> http://thg-server.tophatgolf.com, it can also log on w/o issue...
>>>
>>> 3) A XP pro machine serviced by SBC (Ameritech) cannot connect to:
>>> http://400sc.mergerx.net, https//400sc.mergerx.net/remote, or
>>> http://thg-server.tophatgolf.com. HOWEVER, it can connect to all 
>>> websites via
>>> AOL (using SBC's DSL broadband), although log-on to RWW fails (page 
>>> cannot be
>>> displayed)
>>>
>>> 4) Workstations connected locally to EITHER domain (Tophatgolf.local OR
>>> Mergerx.local) on either network cannot connect to either remote servers
>>> website: (http://THG-Server.tophatgolf.com OR http://400sc.mergerx.net).
>>> however they can get the servers homepage and logon to the respective 
>>> servers
>>> (when physically on the same network)..note: local workstations 
>>> belonging to
>>> each domain all have XP Pro
>>>
>>> 5) We have physically moved thg-server.tophatgolf.com to the /29 network
>>> 68.21.227.161 (gw x.x.x.166), once there, SOME pages could be resolved 
>>> (for
>>> workstation in example #1). Obviously we ran the ICW again for this
>>> particular sub-net
>>>
>>> Noteworthy. both /29 networks use SBCglobal as the ISP; same service 
>>> level,
>>> same Netopia routers. NAT, DHCP is disabled, basically, all firewall
>>> functions of the router are disabled, and we have compared each routers
>>> settings page by page. We have likewise compared DHCP, DNS, & Remote 
>>> Access
>>> page by page. I am a experience netAdmin (15yrs)..I'm stumped. Named 
>>> servers
>>> are 206.141.193.55 & 66.73.20.40 (both networks)
>>>
>>> -I've checked certificates, trusted sites, you name it..I'm baffled.
>>> topology is simple, DSL router (netopia) > NIC #1  Switch> NIC #2 and
>>> workstations
>>>
>>> here are the IP config's:
>>>
>>> Windows IP Configuration
>>>
>>>    Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : 400SC
>>>    Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . : MergeRX.local
>>>    Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
>>>    IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
>>>    WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
>>>    DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : MergeRX.local
>>>
>>> Ethernet adapter Network Connection:
>>>
>>>    Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
>>>    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Network 
>>> Connection
>>>    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-11-11-1F-78-F9
>>>    DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
>>>    IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.21.227.165
>>>    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.0.0.0
>>>    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 68.21.227.166
>>>    DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.3
>>>    Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.3
>>>    NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
>>>
>>> Ethernet adapter Server Local Area Connection:
>>>
>>>    Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
>>>    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast
>>> Ethernet
>>> NIC
>>>    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-30-BD-2E-C1-BE
>>>    DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
>>>    IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.3
>>>    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>>>    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
>>>    DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.3
>>>    Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.3
>>>
>>> AND for the 2nd Server:
>>>
>>> Windows IP Configuration
>>>
>>>    Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : thg-server
>>>    Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . : TopHatGolf.local
>>>    Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
>>>    IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
>>>    WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
>>>    DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : TopHatGolf.local
>>>
>>> Ethernet adapter Network Connection:
>>>
>>>    Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
>>>    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast
>>> Ethernet
>>> NIC
>>>    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-40-F4-99-FC-AF
>>>    DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
>>>    IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.76.93.146
>>>    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.0.0.0
>>>    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 68.76.93.150
>>>    DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2
>>>    Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2
>>>    NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
>>>
>>> Ethernet adapter Server Local Area Connection:
>>>
>>>    Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
>>>    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Network 
>>> Connection
>>>    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-C0-9F-3D-27-DA
>>>    DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
>>>    IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2
>>>    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>>>    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
>>>    DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2
>>>    Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2
>>>
>>> We are not trying to do any trust or other complexities, it's just users 
>>> in
>>> both domains need access to each domains sharepoint site. As mentioned, 
>>> as
>>> far as I can tell, the assorted browsers are configured properly. We can
>>> figure out if this a browser specific issue, a OS issue, a local DNS 
>>> issue, a
>>> WAN issue or what the heck..These are BRAND NEW Dell SC servers, again 
>>> the
>>> OS's are darn near shrink wrapped, plain vanillia (wizard configs only).
>>> These are scheduled for production now. We can't by CAL's or anything 
>>> w/o
>>> resolution...I appreciate ANY guesses..Thanks folks
>>>
>>>
>>> "Marina Roos [SBS-MVP]" wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi Ken,
>>> >
>>> > Can you post the ipconfig/all from the servers? You know that XP Home 
>>> > can't
>>> > join a domain, right?
>>> >
>>> > -- 
>>> > Regards,
>>> >
>>> > Marina
>>> > Microsoft SBS-MVP
>>> >
>>> > "Ken" <Ken@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
>>> > news:078344A7-D4BC-44DF-AC9B-C9163314B0C8@microsoft.com...
>>> > > Urgent Mystery of Mysteries...we got 2 NEW Dell servers running SBS 
>>> > > 2003
>>> > (no
>>> > > ISA), both have correct A records with EasyDNS, both have same DSL 
>>> > > service
>>> > > with SBC, both have fixed IP's, both have same service level, both 
>>> > > have
>>> > been
>>> > > configured "plain jane" using ICW, ect (each is regestered with a
>>> > different
>>> > > TLD with Easy DNS however). We have spent WEEKS combing through the
>>> > routers,
>>> > > IIS, ect to find ANY differences. We have re-installed SBS 2003 on 
>>> > > both
>>> > > several times; yet for whatever reason we get a "page cannot be 
>>> > > displayed"
>>> > > sort of "willy nilly". Some clients can connect to both (a NT 
>>> > > workstation
>>> > a a
>>> > > hospital), some cannot connect to either using SBC, some XP Home 
>>> > > pc's can
>>> > > connect to one and not the other, stranger still, the server home 
>>> > > page
>>> > will
>>> > > work using AOL, but not SBC (same PC). Worse, we can change 
>>> > > locations, and
>>> > > the issue seems to "partially" resolve (2 seperate locations using
>>> > different
>>> > > /29 networks). At this juncture, we cannot "go-live" and it is 
>>> > > holding up
>>> > > business, any help APPRECIATED (I can forgoe security concerns and 
>>> > > reveal
>>> > > domain, IP's, ect..whats the difference at this point?)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>
>

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