Re: Page Cannot Be Displayed

From: Les Connor [SBS MVP] (les.connor_at_DEL.cfive.ca)
Date: 08/10/04


Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 17:48:20 -0500

It all looks very confusing to an outsider ;-/.

Are these two sbs installations related to each other in any way? If they're
in separate physical locations and can and do exist independently, I'd
suggest reducing the description down to one network and working on it.

I do have a question or two, though. These Netopia routers, do they have lan
and wan interfaces, with IP's assigned to them. I'm not sure I understand
the reason for the IP addressing on the external nic - sorry if you
explained it somewhere.

Another approach may be to test your connectivity within the lan,
completely - ensuring all resources are accessible. Once that is proven,
then if external access is not right at least we have an idea of where to
look.

-- 
Les Connor [SBS MVP]
-------------------------------------
SBS Rocks !
"Ken" <Ken@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message 
news:F7A79D08-4ABC-469D-BE65-4AA7201FC9E9@microsoft.com...
> OH and BTW, I've been reading post about this issue on more than a few 
> sites
> (just plain ole due dillegence)...while misery loves company, I'm starting 
> to
> wonder if something else is amiss, that DNS packet size issue may not be 
> the
> culprit...
> has anyone actually resolved this issue? If so I could'nt find any 
> followup
> (or thank you's <smile>)...Again any help appreciated
>
> "Ken" wrote:
>
>> Just for clarity (xcuse the long post), here is a clearer picture of what 
>> is
>> going on:
>> 1) A XP Home machine serviced by SBC (Ameritech) can connect to:
>> http://400sc.mergerx.net AND https://400sc.mergerx.net/remote, and log-on 
>> w/o
>> issue. It cannot connect to http://thg-server.tophatgolf.com (page cannot 
>> be
>> displayed)
>>
>> 2) A NT Workstation (at Cleveland Clinic) can connect to:
>> http://400sc.mergerx.net , https://400sc.mergerx.net/remote AND to
>> http://thg-server.tophatgolf.com, it can also log on w/o issue...
>>
>> 3) A XP pro machine serviced by SBC (Ameritech) cannot connect to:
>> http://400sc.mergerx.net, https//400sc.mergerx.net/remote, or
>> http://thg-server.tophatgolf.com. HOWEVER, it can connect to all websites 
>> via
>> AOL (using SBC's DSL broadband), although log-on to RWW fails (page 
>> cannot be
>> displayed)
>>
>> 4) Workstations connected locally to EITHER domain (Tophatgolf.local OR
>> Mergerx.local) on either network cannot connect to either remote servers
>> website: (http://THG-Server.tophatgolf.com OR http://400sc.mergerx.net).
>> however they can get the servers homepage and logon to the respective 
>> servers
>> (when physically on the same network)..note: local workstations belonging 
>> to
>> each domain all have XP Pro
>>
>> 5) We have physically moved thg-server.tophatgolf.com to the /29 network
>> 68.21.227.161 (gw x.x.x.166), once there, SOME pages could be resolved 
>> (for
>> workstation in example #1). Obviously we ran the ICW again for this
>> particular sub-net
>>
>> Noteworthy. both /29 networks use SBCglobal as the ISP; same service 
>> level,
>> same Netopia routers. NAT, DHCP is disabled, basically, all firewall
>> functions of the router are disabled, and we have compared each routers
>> settings page by page. We have likewise compared DHCP, DNS, & Remote 
>> Access
>> page by page. I am a experience netAdmin (15yrs)..I'm stumped. Named 
>> servers
>> are 206.141.193.55 & 66.73.20.40 (both networks)
>>
>> -I've checked certificates, trusted sites, you name it..I'm baffled.
>> topology is simple, DSL router (netopia) > NIC #1  Switch> NIC #2 and
>> workstations
>>
>> here are the IP config's:
>>
>> Windows IP Configuration
>>
>>    Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : 400SC
>>    Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . : MergeRX.local
>>    Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
>>    IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
>>    WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
>>    DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : MergeRX.local
>>
>> Ethernet adapter Network Connection:
>>
>>    Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
>>    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Network 
>> Connection
>>    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-11-11-1F-78-F9
>>    DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
>>    IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.21.227.165
>>    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.0.0.0
>>    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 68.21.227.166
>>    DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.3
>>    Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.3
>>    NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
>>
>> Ethernet adapter Server Local Area Connection:
>>
>>    Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
>>    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast
>> Ethernet
>> NIC
>>    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-30-BD-2E-C1-BE
>>    DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
>>    IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.3
>>    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>>    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
>>    DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.3
>>    Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.3
>>
>> AND for the 2nd Server:
>>
>> Windows IP Configuration
>>
>>    Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : thg-server
>>    Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . : TopHatGolf.local
>>    Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
>>    IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
>>    WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
>>    DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : TopHatGolf.local
>>
>> Ethernet adapter Network Connection:
>>
>>    Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
>>    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast
>> Ethernet
>> NIC
>>    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-40-F4-99-FC-AF
>>    DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
>>    IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.76.93.146
>>    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.0.0.0
>>    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 68.76.93.150
>>    DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2
>>    Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2
>>    NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
>>
>> Ethernet adapter Server Local Area Connection:
>>
>>    Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
>>    Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/1000 MT Network 
>> Connection
>>    Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-C0-9F-3D-27-DA
>>    DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
>>    IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2
>>    Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>>    Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
>>    DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2
>>    Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2
>>
>> We are not trying to do any trust or other complexities, it's just users 
>> in
>> both domains need access to each domains sharepoint site. As mentioned, 
>> as
>> far as I can tell, the assorted browsers are configured properly. We can
>> figure out if this a browser specific issue, a OS issue, a local DNS 
>> issue, a
>> WAN issue or what the heck..These are BRAND NEW Dell SC servers, again 
>> the
>> OS's are darn near shrink wrapped, plain vanillia (wizard configs only).
>> These are scheduled for production now. We can't by CAL's or anything w/o
>> resolution...I appreciate ANY guesses..Thanks folks
>>
>>
>> "Marina Roos [SBS-MVP]" wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Ken,
>> >
>> > Can you post the ipconfig/all from the servers? You know that XP Home 
>> > can't
>> > join a domain, right?
>> >
>> > -- 
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Marina
>> > Microsoft SBS-MVP
>> >
>> > "Ken" <Ken@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
>> > news:078344A7-D4BC-44DF-AC9B-C9163314B0C8@microsoft.com...
>> > > Urgent Mystery of Mysteries...we got 2 NEW Dell servers running SBS 
>> > > 2003
>> > (no
>> > > ISA), both have correct A records with EasyDNS, both have same DSL 
>> > > service
>> > > with SBC, both have fixed IP's, both have same service level, both 
>> > > have
>> > been
>> > > configured "plain jane" using ICW, ect (each is regestered with a
>> > different
>> > > TLD with Easy DNS however). We have spent WEEKS combing through the
>> > routers,
>> > > IIS, ect to find ANY differences. We have re-installed SBS 2003 on 
>> > > both
>> > > several times; yet for whatever reason we get a "page cannot be 
>> > > displayed"
>> > > sort of "willy nilly". Some clients can connect to both (a NT 
>> > > workstation
>> > a a
>> > > hospital), some cannot connect to either using SBC, some XP Home pc's 
>> > > can
>> > > connect to one and not the other, stranger still, the server home 
>> > > page
>> > will
>> > > work using AOL, but not SBC (same PC). Worse, we can change 
>> > > locations, and
>> > > the issue seems to "partially" resolve (2 seperate locations using
>> > different
>> > > /29 networks). At this juncture, we cannot "go-live" and it is 
>> > > holding up
>> > > business, any help APPRECIATED (I can forgoe security concerns and 
>> > > reveal
>> > > domain, IP's, ect..whats the difference at this point?)
>> >
>> >
>> > 


Relevant Pages

  • Re: Loosing network access to XP boxes
    ... Enable DHCP on the SBS server and set your clients to obtain an IP and DNS ... > Ethernet adapter Server Local Area Connection: ... > Connection-specific DNS Suffix. ...
    (microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs)
  • RE: Connection
    ... Something I think is important is that these servers have ... two NICs, one for the LAN and the other one for the ... Connection-specific DNS Suffix. ... Ethernet adapter Link A Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit ...
    (microsoft.public.win2000.networking)
  • WINS / VPN Issue
    ... I have 2 x SBS2003 servers, both at different physical locations, both ... Connection-specific DNS Suffix. ... Ethernet adapter LAN: ...
    (microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs)
  • Re: Network OK but internet not working on PC
    ... Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: ... Connection-specific DNS Suffix. ... Ethernet adapter Intel Pro 1000 MT Gigabit Ethernet Adapter - onboard: ... Ping statistics for 216.239.59.99: ...
    (microsoft.public.windowsxp.general)
  • Re: DHCP not sending DNS server
    ... Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP] ... > Connection-specific DNS Suffix. ... > Ethernet adapter Public Network: ... > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: ...
    (microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs)