Re: Secure Win98 SE?
From: Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] (sbradcpa_at_pacbell.net)
Date: 07/15/04
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Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 23:35:12 -0700
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Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] wrote:
> SALIVATING!!!!!!
>
> 1. When logging on ... hit cancel. You still can get into that
> workstation right? Got any sensitive documents on that machine?
>
> 2. Lanmanhash. 98 based machines require a lower authentication
> protocol to connect to a network. This lower authentication leaves
> behind a "hash" of the passwords on a place on the server. Take LC4 or
> John the Ripper program and run in on a network that runs 98's and it
> can break that hash... less than 7 character password that is a
> dictionary word gets broken my lc4 faster than I can find the icon on
> the desktop.
>
> 3. User mode. XP/2k have three levels of security. User mode, Power
> users mode, Local administrator. 98s has one level. Local admin. That
> means that your employees can load on that machine ANYTHING they want.
>
> 4. Going to Windows 2000/XP is considered by my friends who work in the
> defense contractor industry to be a downgrade. Why? Because of 3 above.
>
> 5. Services running as different levels. Even in windows 2000 versus
> 2003 you can see the impact of security.. many of the patches released
> today didn't affect Windows 2003, or there is mitigating factors.
>
> 6. Hold onto your hats because right around the corner and within 90
> days in the OEM channel XP sp2 will be released in August. XP sp2 is
> very solid. All of the recent attacks affecting IE ... are all fully
> protected in XP sp2. It's almost like a new OS, it's that good.
>
> 7. Group policy. Oh man this is where is really gets good. You want
> to control the interior firewall on the XP sp2 machines INSIDE your
> network, well get ready to. SBS2003 will be getting an update to our
> Group policy to adjust so that the firewall is on inside our networks
> better protecting us.
>
> 8. Group policy. If you have 98's you have no idea of the power you
> can from that server. From locking down the screen saver to controlling
> what programs are loaded, one of the advantage we SBSers have is we are
> already on Active Directory.
>
> 9. 98's have no security. That's an oxymoron. It doesn't exist.
>
> 10. No blue screens of death. I honestly have never had one, don't
> know what they look like on XP
>
> 11. System restore, load a driver that would normally BSOD a 98, and
> you can easily recover on XP
>
> 12. SUS or Shavlik. You can't do a Patch management program on a 98.
> You need XP....
>
> How many more do you want?
>
> C S R C - Systems Administration:
> http://csrc.nist.gov/itsec/guidance_WinXP.html
>
> See that? You can't do anything like that on 98s.
>
>
>
> Roger wrote:
>
>> I've read that WIN98 SE systems can't be locked down and aren't
>> secure. Comparitively speaking...
>>
>> I want to convince a client of mine of this... but I'm looking for
>> some guidance on some specific reasons why they need to fork out a
>> little cash to upgrade to Win XP Pro...
>>
>> The stand-by "It's not supported anymore" isn't working with them...
>>
>> So... what are the security risks staying with an out-
>> dated legacy system running Win98 SE?
>>
>> Regards...
>> -R.
>
>
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