Re: SBS 2003 Install fails after first reboot

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From: Robert Baum (robert.baum_at_rbc-technik.de)
Date: 07/11/04


Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 06:31:36 -0700

Hi Marina,

... that would be the thing, if this configuration hadn't
worked a couple of years with several other OS (W2k
Server, W2k prof., XP prof.).

Fact is SBS (and any other OS too) see the 40Gig HDD, can
create a valid boot partition and work with it, but only
SBS 2003 (and it seems so Win 2003 as well) will do
everything correct unless the first reboot. I can see,
copy and work within the partition, but not boot :-(

Uhg, two days of work, if the weather here would have
been better, i probably would have done some other
leisure work ;-)

Bye
Robert (increasing the ID once more :-)

>-----Original Message-----
>Hi Robert,
>
>Yup, you might be hitting the ID max thing here. It has
nothing to do with
>SBS 2003, but the limit of your mobo and bios that won't
be able to see
>disks with more than 32 Gb or whatever the limit is for
your hardware.
>
>--
>Regards,
>
>Marina
>Microsoft SBS-MVP
>
>"Robert Baum" <Robert.Buam@rbc-technik.de> schreef in
bericht
>news:2b22b01c46731$a755c110$a301280a@phx.gbl...
>> Hi,
>>
>> so far i got a baseline now. I installed on a IDE
>> harddisk physically smaller than 32GB (not a clipping
>> mode but real!), actually it is a 12 GB IDE Harddisk.
>>
>> So i assume something strange is going on between BIOS,
>> harddisk size and Windows 2003 when jumping over the
32GB
>> border with IDE drives on that 440bx.
>>
>> My old SBS 4.5 is running since years on hardware ...
you
>> don't want to know it, really ;-). It finally came into
>> its years and i decided to hit reality that i need to
>> update sometime.
>>
>> Actually i will complete the installation and hope
that i
>> do not face the same problems after a couple of weeks
>> like you did, having a "Gremlins free zone".
>>
>> I already transferred the harddisk image to another
disk
>> without fail, so i'll try to move up the harddisk size
>> ladder as far as i could reach - presumeably 32GB (if i
>> still find such a small size on the market).
>>
>> Bye
>> Robert
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >you know what chipset my SBS runs?
>> >
>> >OK, so I gotta come clean,,, you know that hiccup with
>> my LoungeAN I had
>> >several weeks ago, here's the story.
>> >
>> >I've run SBS 2000 on my SuperMicro P6 SBS mobo for a
few
>> years, yep it's a
>> >440bx chipset. Pure coincidence that the mobo model is
>> SBS which in
>> >SuperMicro model numbering appears to mean Single
>> processor, Bx chipset,
>> >Scsi. I have a P6 DBE mobo also, Dual processor, Bx,
>> Eide.
>> >
>> >Having received a copy of SBS2003 I eventually jumped
on
>> the bandwagon,
>> >didn't bother with a migration, threw out the old and
in
>> with the new.
>> >Installed SBS 2003 so that the OS was on a pair of
>> software mirrored SCSI's
>> >and DATA was placed on a pair of mirrored IDE's.
Worked
>> fine for several
>> >weeks. Stopped working fine one day when I rebooted
for
>> no particular
>> >reason.
>> >
>> >So now we come to the fun, funny, and not-funny bit. I
>> couldn't for the life
>> >me, for love or money restore SBS2003 on the damned
>> thing, couldn't get the
>> >existing install running by hook or crook. Said 'stuff
>> it, need to get
>> >something up and running' so grabbed a spare IDE and
>> started with CD1
>> >SBS2003, similar problem to our OP. OK, so let's try a
>> scsi, there's a
>> >couple of spares here. Same result. I still don't know
>> why the first install
>> >went without hiccup yet these attempts failed
miserably.
>> I blamed RAM, the
>> >mobo, the drives, Norse Gods, eventually settled on
>> Gremlins cavorting with
>> >the bad fairies who really run things around here.
>> >
>> >So I'm back on SBS2K, same pair of soft mirrored
SCSI's,
>> soft mirrored
>> >IDE's, same mobo, same RAM, same fairies. Stable as a
>> rock.
>> >
>> >I'd try an inplace upgrade but I've taken her down a
>> couple of times and
>> >even vanilla W2K3 refuses to install on her. and HEY,
my
>> friend the SQL
>> >programmer has moved out, there's a few years left in
>> the old girl yet. If I
>> >can find a Slot 1 >800 CPU I might even replace the
500.
>> >
>> >"Marina Roos [SBS-MVP]"
>> <marina@roos.nodontwantspam.nl.com> wrote in message
>> >news:e14S9MrZEHA.2408@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> >> Hi Robert,
>> >>
>> >> I440 BX chipset?? Do you know how old that is?
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> Marina
>> >> Microsoft SBS-MVP
>> >>
>> >> <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in
>> bericht
>> >> news:2afc901c466af$dac4ff70$a301280a@phx.gbl...
>> >> > Hi again,
>> >> >
>> >> > and the story goes on...
>> >> >
>> >> > i tried a completly different computer (only same
>> type of
>> >> > mainboard chipset i440bx from Gigabyte) spending
>> another
>> >> > three hours and the same story again - no boot
after
>> >> > initial install.
>> >> >
>> >> > So i got a SCSI disk jammed into the system - oh
>> what a
>> >> > surprise - it works.
>> >> >
>> >> > Conclusion:
>> >> > Something must be wrong with SBS 2003/Windows 2003
>> and
>> >> > mainboards with i440BX chipset running IDE/ATA
>> harddisks.
>> >> >
>> >> > Does anybody know about such problems and how to
>> resolve
>> >> > them?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanx
>> >> > Robert
>> >> >
>> >> > >-----Original Message-----
>> >> > >Hi there,
>> >> > >
>> >> > >i got a really weird problem after first reboot
of
>> SBS
>> >> > >2003 installation.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Every time the OS is not starting up after
initial
>> >> > >copying of files to the harddisk with a simple
>> >> > >message: 'Error while loading OS' shortly after
>> BIOS has
>> >> > >finished its tasks. May be occuring during first
>> basic
>> >> > >boot-block operations?
>> >> > >
>> >> > >I already did ...
>> >> > >- update BIOS of my Gigabyte 686 (6BX) to latest
>> version
>> >> > >(i440BX chipset)
>> >> > >- changed harddisk settings and BIOS parameters
>> >> > >- changed harddisks (ATA/40GB, IDE/12GB)
>> >> > >- changed HDD to clipping mode (32GB)
>> >> > >- varied size of boot partition between 8GB to
40GB
>> >> > (NTFS)
>> >> > >- changed graphic card
>> >> > >- removed soundcard
>> >> > >- added 1GB of RAM
>> >> > >- changed the date/time to prior 23.11.2003
>> >> > >- defaulted the BIOS
>> >> > >- tried to use repair mode and reinstalled on
same
>> >> > >partition
>> >> > >- reinstalled a thousand times
>> >> > >.... and it's always a no go.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Partition, files and everything seems to be OK
and
>> >> > >acessible at any time after initial copying of
>> files by
>> >> > >the installation routine, but no boot.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >So anyone out there to know such a problem or
have
>> any
>> >> > >clue?
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Thanks
>> >> > >Robert
>> >> > >.
>> >> > >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>
>
>.
>



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