Re: SBS 2003 Install fails after first reboot

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From: Marina Roos [SBS-MVP] (marina_at_roos.nodontwantspam.nl.com)
Date: 07/11/04 

Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 14:11:40 +0200

Hi Robert,

Yup, you might be hitting the ID max thing here. It has nothing to do with
SBS 2003, but the limit of your mobo and bios that won't be able to see
disks with more than 32 Gb or whatever the limit is for your hardware. 

-- 
Regards,
Marina
Microsoft SBS-MVP
"Robert Baum" <Robert.Buam@rbc-technik.de> schreef in bericht
news:2b22b01c46731$a755c110$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> Hi,
>
> so far i got a baseline now. I installed on a IDE
> harddisk physically smaller than 32GB (not a clipping
> mode but real!), actually it is a 12 GB IDE Harddisk.
>
> So i assume something strange is going on between BIOS,
> harddisk size and Windows 2003 when jumping over the 32GB
> border with IDE drives on that 440bx.
>
> My old SBS 4.5 is running since years on hardware ... you
> don't want to know it, really ;-). It finally came into
> its years and i decided to hit reality that i need to
> update sometime.
>
> Actually i will complete the installation and hope that i
> do not face the same problems after a couple of weeks
> like you did, having a "Gremlins free zone".
>
> I already transferred the harddisk image to another disk
> without fail, so i'll try to move up the harddisk size
> ladder as far as i could reach - presumeably 32GB (if i
> still find such a small size on the market).
>
> Bye
> Robert
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >you know what chipset my SBS runs?
> >
> >OK, so I gotta come clean,,, you know that hiccup with
> my LoungeAN I had
> >several weeks ago, here's the story.
> >
> >I've run SBS 2000 on my SuperMicro P6 SBS mobo for a few
> years, yep it's a
> >440bx chipset. Pure coincidence that the mobo model is
> SBS which in
> >SuperMicro model numbering appears to mean Single
> processor, Bx chipset,
> >Scsi. I have a P6 DBE mobo also, Dual processor, Bx,
> Eide.
> >
> >Having received a copy of SBS2003 I eventually jumped on
> the bandwagon,
> >didn't bother with a migration, threw out the old and in
> with the new.
> >Installed SBS 2003 so that the OS was on a pair of
> software mirrored SCSI's
> >and DATA was placed on a pair of mirrored IDE's. Worked
> fine for several
> >weeks. Stopped working fine one day when I rebooted for
> no particular
> >reason.
> >
> >So now we come to the fun, funny, and not-funny bit. I
> couldn't for the life
> >me, for love or money restore SBS2003 on the damned
> thing, couldn't get the
> >existing install running by hook or crook. Said 'stuff
> it, need to get
> >something up and running' so grabbed a spare IDE and
> started with CD1
> >SBS2003, similar problem to our OP. OK, so let's try a
> scsi, there's a
> >couple of spares here. Same result. I still don't know
> why the first install
> >went without hiccup yet these attempts failed miserably.
> I blamed RAM, the
> >mobo, the drives, Norse Gods, eventually settled on
> Gremlins cavorting with
> >the bad fairies who really run things around here.
> >
> >So I'm back on SBS2K, same pair of soft mirrored SCSI's,
> soft mirrored
> >IDE's, same mobo, same RAM, same fairies. Stable as a
> rock.
> >
> >I'd try an inplace upgrade but I've taken her down a
> couple of times and
> >even vanilla W2K3 refuses to install on her. and HEY, my
> friend the SQL
> >programmer has moved out, there's a few years left in
> the old girl yet. If I
> >can find a Slot 1 >800 CPU I might even replace the 500.
> >
> >"Marina Roos [SBS-MVP]"
> <marina@roos.nodontwantspam.nl.com> wrote in message
> >news:e14S9MrZEHA.2408@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >> Hi Robert,
> >>
> >> I440 BX chipset?? Do you know how old that is?
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Marina
> >> Microsoft SBS-MVP
> >>
> >> <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in
> bericht
> >> news:2afc901c466af$dac4ff70$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> >> > Hi again,
> >> >
> >> > and the story goes on...
> >> >
> >> > i tried a completly different computer (only same
> type of
> >> > mainboard chipset i440bx from Gigabyte) spending
> another
> >> > three hours and the same story again - no boot after
> >> > initial install.
> >> >
> >> > So i got a SCSI disk jammed into the system - oh
> what a
> >> > surprise - it works.
> >> >
> >> > Conclusion:
> >> > Something must be wrong with SBS 2003/Windows 2003
> and
> >> > mainboards with i440BX chipset running IDE/ATA
> harddisks.
> >> >
> >> > Does anybody know about such problems and how to
> resolve
> >> > them?
> >> >
> >> > Thanx
> >> > Robert
> >> >
> >> > >-----Original Message-----
> >> > >Hi there,
> >> > >
> >> > >i got a really weird problem after first reboot of
> SBS
> >> > >2003 installation.
> >> > >
> >> > >Every time the OS is not starting up after initial
> >> > >copying of files to the harddisk with a simple
> >> > >message: 'Error while loading OS' shortly after
> BIOS has
> >> > >finished its tasks. May be occuring during first
> basic
> >> > >boot-block operations?
> >> > >
> >> > >I already did ...
> >> > >- update BIOS of my Gigabyte 686 (6BX) to latest
> version
> >> > >(i440BX chipset)
> >> > >- changed harddisk settings and BIOS parameters
> >> > >- changed harddisks (ATA/40GB, IDE/12GB)
> >> > >- changed HDD to clipping mode (32GB)
> >> > >- varied size of boot partition between 8GB to 40GB
> >> > (NTFS)
> >> > >- changed graphic card
> >> > >- removed soundcard
> >> > >- added 1GB of RAM
> >> > >- changed the date/time to prior 23.11.2003
> >> > >- defaulted the BIOS
> >> > >- tried to use repair mode and reinstalled on same
> >> > >partition
> >> > >- reinstalled a thousand times
> >> > >.... and it's always a no go.
> >> > >
> >> > >Partition, files and everything seems to be OK and
> >> > >acessible at any time after initial copying of
> files by
> >> > >the installation routine, but no boot.
> >> > >
> >> > >So anyone out there to know such a problem or have
> any
> >> > >clue?
> >> > >
> >> > >Thanks
> >> > >Robert
> >> > >.
> >> > >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >.
> >

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